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    FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    Just released, addressed issues of the IBIS. (apparently works also with Yosemite).
    The image in the viewfinder is now properly stabilized also when magnification is on.
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    Re: FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    Right in the middle of a big gig. Love to install it but nervous
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    Re: FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    I just loaded it and tested the IBIS bug. I *think* it's fixed. I turned the camera off, removed an OSS lens, put on a MF lens, turned on the camera, and IBIS worked.

    More testing.... Yep, it works. No need to leave the camera on when switching lenses.

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    Holy crap! They do listen. This is great news for the system as a whole.
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    Re: FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    Not only did they fix Matt's issue but I swear they improved the performance in the EVF. The high frequency jitter that was still mildly visible (and commented on by several reviewers) is completely gone.

    The view is now smooth and stable. Very zen.

    Just shot sharp at 1/13 with the 135mm on the LA-EA4.

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    Re: FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    I'm going to load it . Just hope I have my cord with me. Check when I get back to hotel
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    Re: FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    Tip for anyone using the TechArt adapter for Contax G.

    The camera will recognize the adapter as an 8mm so you need to make sure Steady Shot is set to manual and you dial in your actual FOV just as you would for any non-electronic adapted lens.

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    Wow a result

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    Re: FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    It will be interesting for me to see whether Sony will meet that challenge!

    Looks like they did, in under 2 weeks, one of which was during a holiday...
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    Re: FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    Downloaded and installed and i can confirm IBIS now works with adapted lens after OSS lens
    http://esupport.sony.com/US/p/swu-do...&os_group_id=3
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    What Does This Do?
    This utility updates the system firmware to version (1.10) to enhance the image stabilization system for the following:
    Image stabilization in half-pressing the shutter
    Image stabilization in "Focus Magnifier"
    Image stabilization in movie recording
    Image stabilization in other functions

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    Re: FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    I'm pretty confident this is more than a bug fix for the OSS issue. I think IBIS went out the door with some issues. There was definitely a high frequency jiggle effect apparent that I am no longer seeing.

    Just shot a video at 90mm with a Contax G lens (only 3-axis) and it was incredibly smooth.
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    Re: FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    Update went smoothly. Note - you need a fully charged battery. Whole process was about 20 minutes.

    Big, big difference with focus magnification. I did a before/after with a Nikon 105mm Macro in both magnifications. Night and day. Now it's totally rock solid. No more getting seasick, and it really shows off the value of IBIS!
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    Re: FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    Okay Im sick in the head just updated it and finished 10 minutes before a runway start. I just shot about 300 images turned it over to assistant to shoot for awhile and it seems much better in the finder. Im shooting the ZA 70-200 2.8 in crop mode so basically a 300mm and it does seem smooth. Im hoping the two blackouts I had last night disappear too and I think it will as it was related to this issue I believe. Okay last night I shot continuously for about 2800 images and the vertical grip is still a great improvement for my arthritis in my hands but still I shot way too much and it came into play. brutal shooting , like a freaking machine gun the models where coming so fast at me. Images look good and also Raw knocked down to jpeg for upload is a MAJOR improvement over in camera jpeg and really faster to output over running a action in PS. So jpegs in camera will NEVER happen again in my cam. Period

    C1 is lightning fast doing jpeg output
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    Re: FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    Guy,

    How is the ZA 70-200/2.8 on the A7II? Were you shooting continuous AF? Is that combination's responsiveness at all in the same league as that lens on an A-mount DSLR? Or the equivalent lens on a D800/810/5DIII?

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    Re: FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    To me its pretty dang fast. I guess if I was shooting high end sports this maybe not the best combo but its dang fast for sure.
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    Re: FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    Startup time is noticeably faster and the noises it used to make on startup and shutdown are more subdued.
    V/r John

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    Re: FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    Good upgrade!

    I'm really enjoying this camera. Compared with the a7r it has much less shutter shock (I can use the FE 70-200 at 1/80th sec.whereas 1/200th sec. is needed for the a7r) and being able to use the superb FE 55 1.8 with SSS is a huge advantage.

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    Re: FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    Users are also reporting much faster buffer dump to SD Cards.

    Jorgen, are you listening?
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    Re: FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    Again Im shooting about as fast as you can shooting RAW and not hit the wall yet.
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    Re: FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    Quote Originally Posted by dandrewk View Post
    Users are also reporting much faster buffer dump to SD Cards.

    Jorgen, are you listening?

    hmmm, I'm not seeing any improvements there. I still get about 5 seconds of straight shooting in high speed RAW and about 15 seconds to completely clear the buffer. Certainly you can shoot bursts much earlier than 15 seconds but that is when the drive stops reading.

    Might also be my cards. Class 10 90mb/sec read 45mb/sec write

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    Re: FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    Quote Originally Posted by Viramati View Post
    Wow a result
    Congratulations David! (for those not aware, David defined and described this bug really clearly)

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    Re: FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Congratulations David! (for those not aware, David defined and described this bug really clearly)
    Thank you Jono. It would also appear that they have improved the whole system. Quick work from Sony and seems to go somewhat against the grain of what people have said about Sony's speed with dealing with issues

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    Re: FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Congratulations David! (for those not aware, David defined and described this bug really clearly)
    Indeed! David found the bug *and* a viable workaround very quickly.

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    Re: FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    A7II is expected to be delivered tomorrow. I hope it comes with the Viramati firmware update pre-installed.

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    Re: FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    Quote Originally Posted by Show Performance View Post
    hmmm, I'm not seeing any improvements there. I still get about 5 seconds of straight shooting in high speed RAW and about 15 seconds to completely clear the buffer. Certainly you can shoot bursts much earlier than 15 seconds but that is when the drive stops reading.

    Might also be my cards. Class 10 90mb/sec read 45mb/sec write
    It is likely your cards. Get some of the new Sony 95/90 cards designed for video.
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    Re: FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    when is the a7r mk 2 coming?

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    Re: FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    Quote Originally Posted by Viramati View Post
    Thank you Jono. It would also appear that they have improved the whole system. Quick work from Sony and seems to go somewhat against the grain of what people have said about Sony's speed with dealing with issues
    Without wanting to sound like disparagement, it is quite possible that Sony knew all about these issues when they released the A7II and have been working on them for some time. Major bug fixes like this are rarely a two week effort from incept to delivery. Getting the A7II into the market in time for the holiday purchase season might well have been a priority that overrode releasing it with some of these kinds of ordinarily show-stopper bugs, knowing that they were going to fix it quickly after the fact.

    The good news is that they have succeeded in improving the operations of the A7II camera, and done it quickly given the short time between release and update. That's a good job.

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    Re: FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    Without wanting to sound like disparagement, it is quite possible that Sony knew all about these issues when they released the A7II and have been working on them for some time. Major bug fixes like this are rarely a two week effort from incept to delivery. Getting the A7II into the market in time for the holiday purchase season might well have been a priority that overrode releasing it with some of these kinds of ordinarily show-stopper bugs, knowing that they were going to fix it quickly after the fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Show Performance View Post
    A lot of things are quite possible.
    True, but I meant that to mean "probable." No disparagement intended ... stuff like this just normally takes more time than has elapsed.

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    Re: FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    Manufacturers across all kinds of consumer electronic devices have firmware releases at or shortly after general availability. They all release final production firmware a while before retail availability to allow for manufacturing sufficient volume to support the launch, so engineering teams have more time than we think to do 1.1 updates.
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    Re: FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    Without wanting to sound like disparagement, it is quite possible that Sony knew all about these issues when they released the A7II and have been working on them for some time. Major bug fixes like this are rarely a two week effort from incept to delivery. Getting the A7II into the market in time for the holiday purchase season might well have been a priority that overrode releasing it with some of these kinds of ordinarily show-stopper bugs, knowing that they were going to fix it quickly after the fact.

    The good news is that they have succeeded in improving the operations of the A7II camera, and done it quickly given the short time between release and update. That's a good job.

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    Hi Godfrey
    Whilst I agree with you that the enhancements were probably in train before the camera was release, I'd think that David's bug was less likely - it's a bit obscure, and difficult to clarify. I don't think that many testers would have defined it quite as clearly.

    all the best

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    Re: FW 1.1 for Sony A7M2

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    I don't think that many testers would have defined it quite as clearly.
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