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Zeiss Batis 25/2 and 85/1.8 Coming
- Thread starter iiiNelson
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Lloyd posted some samples:
diglloyd: Zeiss Batis 25mm f/2 Distagon and Zeiss Batis 85mm f/1.8 Sonnar: First Look, Portraits
diglloyd: Zeiss Batis 25mm f/2 Distagon and Zeiss Batis 85mm f/1.8 Sonnar: First Look, Portraits
MikeEvangelist
Member
I gave in last week and ordered the 25mm.
The Ute
Well-known member
Me too. Along w the new A7RII.
I broke down and ordered one.
Bill Caulfeild-Browne
Well-known member
It's such a pleasure to be in company like yours, Mike and Louis and Ute - true GAS addicts.
Bill
Bill
MikeEvangelist
Member
I resemble that remark!
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Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
I am that remark. I'm buying both of them as soon as I finish knitting my special ski mask. LOL
hiepphotog
Member
So the Batis 25 looks to be better than the ZE/ZF 25/2 according to Lloyd. I'm waiting for you GAS addict folks to put up some real life review before I jump for one 
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V
Vivek
Guest
May be not.
Did Tamron design the Zeiss Batis 85mm lens? | sonyalpharumors
This Ziess/Zony scam appears to be a big one.
Apparently a good/great lens can become part of a scam if it is manufactured by a wrong (tm) subcontractor or co-developed with a wrong (tm) party. Things like sharpness, bokeh, color rendering, reliability, weather-sealing, features/usability, QA etc. are irrelevant in this context.
Again, personally I do not care if these lenses are put together in Kardashian's basement or designed by chimpanzee with a reading disorder if they perform optically, are reliable/robust, QA is consistent and service/support works.
Michiel Schierbeek
Well-known member
Your benchmarks on how things are designed and fabricated are very spacious!
The ZM 25 Biogon is one of my favourite lenses and if it performs as good or better i am lost on this one.
biglouis
Well-known member
I'm not sure I am a GAS addict as such. I've just sold all my remaining Leica lenses except for the CV 21/1.8
The 16-35 just does not appeal - I do not want another slow, beer can sized lens. The 21/1.8 is an amazing lens but a dog to meter with as it is a lump of glass with no relationship with the camera.
That is why I want a 25/2. I have come to realise that native FE glass is just superior when it comes to metering and focussing.
Just my two cents.
LouisB
PS I may still keep the 21/1.8 anyway... depends on how good the 25/2 is.
The 16-35 just does not appeal - I do not want another slow, beer can sized lens. The 21/1.8 is an amazing lens but a dog to meter with as it is a lump of glass with no relationship with the camera.
That is why I want a 25/2. I have come to realise that native FE glass is just superior when it comes to metering and focussing.
Just my two cents.
LouisB
PS I may still keep the 21/1.8 anyway... depends on how good the 25/2 is.
biglouis
Well-known member
Yes, I may be on my own here but I see no difference between using my Zeiss Loxia 2/35 and the Summicron 35/2 I sold. In fact, I prefer the more modern ergonomics, and I mean the shape and feel of the lens controls over the Leica ones.
Likewise, my 50/2.8 could not really compete with the 55/1.8 and my 90/2.8 I sold because I anticipate that either the Batis 85 or the forthcoming 90/2.8 will be equal to if not better.
I am sure others have different opinions and will disagree but I feel the more the Sony system has matured the safer it is to invest in.
I always forecast that Sony would end up owning the camera space: they are the Microsoft of consumer electronics and frankly it seems my prophecy is coming true.
Just my two cents.
LouisB
iiiNelson
Well-known member
You're not alone and I've dumped most of my M lenses and my M bodies last year except a few in case Leica ever makes a body too good for me to pass up. If Sony makes a Monochrome body though I'd dump those last few lenses and put just about anything Leica out of my mind. I agree that while not as extensive in lens choice yet there are some excellent one in the FE lineup combined with adequate ones that get the job done even if they aren't for my personal kit.
Quite.
The Cosina Zeiss lenses (ZM) perform superbly for their price point and, early wobbles aside, show that collaborative approaches make otherwise impossible product lines possible.
I also suspect Sony has been listening on this one and the awful QC with the 35mm Sonnar is something that might be less of an issue with new lenses.
Sub-sub (and beyond) contracting is commonplace in industry. I see no reason why its not acceptable in optics, as long as the label brand enforces brand appropriate quality. This is where things slipped with the Zeiss Sony Tamron or whatever it is 35mm Sonnar (and to a lesser extent the 55mm too).
The Cosina Zeiss lenses (ZM) perform superbly for their price point and, early wobbles aside, show that collaborative approaches make otherwise impossible product lines possible.
I also suspect Sony has been listening on this one and the awful QC with the 35mm Sonnar is something that might be less of an issue with new lenses.
Sub-sub (and beyond) contracting is commonplace in industry. I see no reason why its not acceptable in optics, as long as the label brand enforces brand appropriate quality. This is where things slipped with the Zeiss Sony Tamron or whatever it is 35mm Sonnar (and to a lesser extent the 55mm too).
V
Vivek
Guest
Any predictions (even if based on personal needs) is always contentious on a forum. So, I shall be quiet regarding that. :angel:
RE: Leica. It is not Sony or anyone else who have done any damage to their sales! :angel:
Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
I lost the Leica itch a long time ago. Paying triple for maybe 1-5 percent performance increase was not worth the costs. I'll hobble along as a guy that came from the best tech lenses on the planet that 5 percent just does not always add up when it comes to a 8 thousand dollar lens.. I'll pay a extra 1 thousand dollars for that 5 percent but no more. I worn out that T shirt. LOL