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    Re: HCam Master TS 11-24mm

    Hi Erik,
    Thanks so much for the taking the time to respond.. Much appreciated! Yes, I believe that the internal reflections of adapters can be a real issue..


    Is there any way at all that you could possibly try the stitching technique as describer previously by Daf?



    I would love to know what I am missing and if I am doing something wrong...

    Thanks so much in advance!

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    Re: HCam Master TS 11-24mm

    A customer told me the excel graph of the possible movements on the HCam Master TS V2 with the Canon 16-35mm has disappeared in full size. so here it is again
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    Re: HCam Master TS 11-24mm

    Here are a few very boring samples that I took with the Hcam Master.....

    https://www.dropbox.com/home?preview...i_Canon24mmTSE

    https://www.dropbox.com/home?preview=GetDpi_Samyang24mm

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    https://www.dropbox.com/home?preview...ax645_55mm.jpg


    My impressions are, the Pentax 645 35mm is very close to the Contax 645 35mm.. Close enough, that being used with the Hcam master it is actually a no brainer..

    This might be different when used with a system that enables the "true" image circle of a lens to display itself, without vignetting from the adapter itself...

    Still, a decent test for the system I have now...

    Look forward to your thoughts

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    Re: HCam Master TS 11-24mm

    Don´t forget the E-mount diameter. it is significantly smaller than Canon EOS in diameter. The same inner adapter opening will not vignette on a larger mount.

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    Re: HCam Master TS 11-24mm

    Hi Stefan,

    Not sure if this has been asked elsewhere (if so, could you point me in the direction of the post or web page, please?).

    What is the difference between the Mirex adapters and the HCam Master TS?

    Thanks.
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    Re: HCam Master TS 11-24mm

    Quote Originally Posted by NoBob View Post
    Hi Stefan,

    Not sure if this has been asked elsewhere (if so, could you point me in the direction of the post or web page, please?).

    What is the difference between the Mirex adapters and the HCam Master TS?

    Thanks.
    The Mirex adapters don´t have the rotational Collar, we have also improved the size of the inner opening by 3mm horizontal and 6mm vertical.
    The Locking system of the back rotation is by Clickstops and it uses several Novoflex parts as the mounting plate of the collar.
    HCam Master TS V2 is sold exclusively by HCam.de

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    Re: HCam Master TS 11-24mm

    Have just noticed that my links do not seem to work and that this seems to be a problem that seems to be affecting other links as well....



    http://www.getdpi.com/forum/sony/587...-together.html



    Just wondering if anybody has any suggestions of other sites to display hi res images?

    Thanks in advance!

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    Re: HCam Master TS 11-24mm

    Wanted to share -

    A setup of the HCam Master TS V2 and the Canon EF-L 11-24mm with a mattebox, especially interesting: he uses a Lee filter holder/adapter to match both parts for a perfect fit. Fresh from the customer - Thanks to Jens Pfisterer/Stuttgart

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    Re: HCam Master TS 11-24mm

    That Mattebox looks very useful indeed.. Surely it vignettes at wider focal lengths though?



    Stefan, am thinking of adding a second Mirex to my Hcam Master to use a Hasselblad lens and am just wondering if you knew if there would be much difference between using a Mirex Pentax 645 tilt/shift adapter and then adding a normal Hasselblad - Pentax 645 to it, as opposed to using a straight Mirex Hasselblad - Eos tilt/shift adapter?

    From what I have heard, the Hasselblad adapter has a larger opening, so I guess less chance of early vignetting..

    If I got the Mirex Pentax 645 tilt/shift, then I would be able use my current Pentax lenses as well...

    Any thoughts?

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    Re: HCam Master TS 11-24mm

    Quote Originally Posted by wallpaperviking View Post
    That Mattebox looks very useful indeed.. Surely it vignettes at wider focal lengths though?



    Stefan, am thinking of adding a second Mirex to my Hcam Master to use a Hasselblad lens and am just wondering if you knew if there would be much difference between using a Mirex Pentax 645 tilt/shift adapter and then adding a normal Hasselblad - Pentax 645 to it, as opposed to using a straight Mirex Hasselblad - Eos tilt/shift adapter?

    From what I have heard, the Hasselblad adapter has a larger opening, so I guess less chance of early vignetting..

    If I got the Mirex Pentax 645 tilt/shift, then I would be able use my current Pentax lenses as well...

    Any thoughts?
    Hi David

    1. Depending on which adapter you use: the combo of Hasselblad/Pentax adapter and Mirex will be more expensive than the Hasselblad mirex alone.
    2. The openings of the new adapters are always the same, there is no bigger one for the Hasselblad.
    3. Of course a combo with 2 adapters would be more versatile than a plain Hasselblad Mirex.

    4. about the Mattebox - no - it does NOT vignette, as you can adjust the depth of the insertion to the used focal length.
    The only negative point about this is, that rotating the camera from landscape to portrait may have less shading than the landscape orientation.

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    Re: HCam Master TS 11-24mm

    Hi Stefan,
    I was under the impression that some of the adapters did have large inner openings (and therefore less issues with mechanical vignetting).

    This is from an email I received from Markus at Mirex

    "The updated TS-Adapter for Hasselblad V or Pentax 67 lenses (with larger inner opening) is deliverable.

    In the other ts-adapter for Mamiya 645 or Pentax 645 or (Contax 645), this change (update) is not possible.
    These ts-adapters remain as before."

    With regards to purchasing a Pentax 645 - Eos Mirex and then having a "dumb" Hasselblad - Pentax 645 adapter, this would be more expensive than an individual Mirex but would be cheaper than having two separate Mirex adapters

    Think I will order a Pentax 645 - Eos mirex and hope that I do nut run into too many vignetting issues..

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    Re: HCam Master TS 11-24mm

    Quote Originally Posted by wallpaperviking View Post
    Hi Stefan,
    I was under the impression that some of the adapters did have large inner openings (and therefore less issues with mechanical vignetting).

    This is from an email I received from Markus at Mirex

    "The updated TS-Adapter for Hasselblad V or Pentax 67 lenses (with larger inner opening) is deliverable.

    In the other ts-adapter for Mamiya 645 or Pentax 645 or (Contax 645), this change (update) is not possible.
    These ts-adapters remain as before."

    With regards to purchasing a Pentax 645 - Eos Mirex and then having a "dumb" Hasselblad - Pentax 645 adapter, this would be more expensive than an individual Mirex but would be cheaper than having two separate Mirex adapters

    Think I will order a Pentax 645 - Eos mirex and hope that I do nut run into too many vignetting issues..
    It is always a matter of the lens mostly.
    Rule of thumb: when the back lens stay/is as close as possible to the bajonett, the leat vignetting will occur
    Perfect example: the Mamiya 120mm Macro. The lens stays directly at the bajonett at all scales and distances.

    and

    havin improved the opening on the HCam master TS V2 is also important as with a second Mirex this will be further off the bajonett mount (direction camera)
    and the larger opening there will be needed to prevent any vignetting as much as possible.

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    Re: HCam Master TS 11-24mm

    Hi Stefan,
    Just wondering if you can tell me how much shift you can get from using a full frame lens on a cropped sensor camera with your Hcam Master? For example, using a Canon 14mm on a Sony A6000?

    Thanks a lot in advance..

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    Re: HCam Master TS 11-24mm

    Quote Originally Posted by wallpaperviking View Post
    Hi Stefan,
    Just wondering if you can tell me how much shift you can get from using a full frame lens on a cropped sensor camera with your Hcam Master? For example, using a Canon 14mm on a Sony A6000?

    Thanks a lot in advance..
    Difficult to say - I don´t have a 14mm Canon Prime lens. For the EF L f4/11-24mm the answer is in the table that I have published:
    on full format 24x36 there are 8,10,10,8mm add at least 6mm to each side for APS-C- but you will probably reach the maximum 15mm the adapter provides mechanically in all directions, as the format is so much smaller and thus the image circle touched "later"(with more headroom) in the corners.

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    Re: HCam Master TS 11-24mm

    Thanks for the response, much appreciated! I guess I wasn't talking about the Canon 14mm specifically but how much shift you would get by using a crop sensor Sony camera, a full frame lens and your Hcam master.

    Think you answered it when you mentioned "6mm" each side..

    Am thinking the upcoming Laowa 12mm Zero D lens could be a good one, as it has a fully manual aperture ring and would turn into a 18mm equivalent lens..

    I could live with having "6mm" of shift for a pretty small wideangle lens with some tilt/shift ability..

    Any other full frame lenses that have a manual aperture ring that could be used in such a way?

    Actually, the "Laowa Magic Shift Converter" could also be interesting, converting this lens into a 17mm with +/- shift of 10mm.. Sounds pretty cool.
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