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When a 3% pincussion makes you a "serious shooter"..

Malina DZ

Member
Tentative conclusion: the Batis 85mm has TV distortion of around 1.1%. Real, but not horrible.
...that is after the image processor correction being applied. Why can't Zeiss reach 0.4% if it's so easily amendable?
And thank you for reminding about radial distortion. Good luck fixing that in post. Well, I know "liquify" does miracles...
 

pegelli

Well-known member
No, I'm not, with so many measured numbers (3%, 1.1%, ~0.5%) floating around.
BTW, where does 1.1% distortion come from?:confused:
Well the 0.5% (or less, depending how you read the graph) is with camera correction "on" according to the Zeiss paper. But they don't mention if the MTF graphs are with camera correction "on" or "off"
 

MGrayson

Subscriber and Workshop Member
I'm sure this point has been made elsewhere, but lens design is a huge bag of compromises. Symmetric designs are great, but not for (current) digital sensors, and probably not for AF. Some asymmetric designs are low distortion, but have CA (color fringing in out of focus areas). Other sharp designs have mustache distortion. Some designs are good (e.g., Contax zooms) but are smaller aperture and heavy.

But now that we *can* do software correction for purely geometric distortion, that frees up one variable so that the others - low vignetting and color cast on digital sensors, sharpness to the corners, low CA, light weight, fast AF - can be improved. I'm not seeing that this is a bad thing. Certainly not "unprofessional". Sure, if there is a lens design that matches all the other requirements *and* has no geometric distortions, that would be better. I'm betting that there isn't one.

--Matt
 

iiiNelson

Well-known member
...Sure, if there is a lens design that matches all the other requirements *and* has no geometric distortions, that would be better. I'm betting that there isn't one.

--Matt
I'm betting that if there were one created that people (including myself) would scoff at the price...
 

Malina DZ

Member
I'm sure this point has been made elsewhere, but lens design is a huge bag of compromises.
Nikon 85/1.8G is somehow able to pull off great results in all IQ categories (0.17% Pincsh) without any corrections at a much lower price. :angel:
Distortion is a big deal as it affects every single image you take at any aperture, unlike sharpness, CA and vignetting. Hope, a new generation of professionals understands that.
 
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