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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    I am really thinking of picking up this lens now I have the A7rII. From all the posts here it would appear that it performs better than the WATE wide open and maybe even stopped down. I do have the 16-35 but this is so small and light that I can carry it my Hadley small bag along with the Q and A7rII and FE55.

    So Question. Will it out perform the WATE at 16mm which I am seeing is a little soft at the edges on the rII

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    I think it will myself. Leica owners may debate it but dang thing is really good
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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    Please pardon my ignorance on this but what adapter are you using to attach this to the A7r ll? How do you gauge adjustments/settings for proper exposure? I am thinking of adding either the Batis 25 or 16-35 zoom to my lens lineup and this 15 looks to be exceptional. Shooting an equal, if not more amounts of architecture, what are your recommendations? I have both the Canon 17mm & 24mm TSE lenses, I am looking for a lightweight alternative when I don't want to pack so much gear.
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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    I'm using a metabones Leica M to Sony adapter. 100 dollars but are quite few with varies pricing. It's a dumb adapter no electronics. So really almost anything will work
    Exposure wise most of us just use A mode camera and it adjust shutter speed to working aperture.
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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    Guy, thanks for this information!
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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    My pleasure. I have this lens than the Batis 25, 35 1.4 and the Batis 85. Really nice combination set. These are my main lenses. Just need a 135 /200 in my bag
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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    Guy,

    How does this lens compare to the Rokinon 14 2.8? I already own that and while it's quite large the image quality seem rather good. Although due to its size I rarely carry it.

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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    Much better corners and very little distortion . Plus you can use this at 5.6 better than F8 on 14

    Outside that this is so small too.

    I do have a cheap adapter Fotosy if anyone wants to buy it cheap. I can try it first
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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    In all seriousness its kind of a bargain at 800 dollars. I would buy this over the Zeiss 15 any day

    No one has said I was crazy yet on it and a lot of folks bought one. Just no exit data if that's a issue
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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    In all seriousness its kind of a bargain at 800 dollars. I would buy this over the Zeiss 15 any day

    No one has said I was crazy yet on it and a lot of folks bought one. Just no exit data if that's a issue
    I've got one arriving tomorrow. Can't wait to try it with the a7RM2. I used the Leica WATE on the a7R with good results. I no longer have that lens and have been looking for a sharp super-wide. The Voigtlander 15mm vIII looks the ticket. Metabones adapter arrived yesterday.

    BTW, I use LensTagger in LR to add EXIF in post-processing. That way I can at least keep track of what settings I used for a particular shoot.

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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    Great Joe live to hear your thoughts on it. Honestly for a super wide on the A7rII I don't think you can do much better. It just performs perfectly in these Sonys

    Great idea in the EXIF stuff
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    Well Guy thanks for turning me onto to this lens. Bought it this afternoon and traded in my old LTM version of the CV12/5.6 and CV21/1.8 both of which I seldom use. From first results I have to say I am very impressed and it so good to have a DOF scale again as I find the FE16-35 a real pain to know where it is really focussing for landscape work. Same as you I am surprised by the corner quality even wide open and could even be better than the FE16-35 at 16 (early days though). For £499.99 it is a steal

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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    Pretty dang good I would say. Glad you are liking it.
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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    Thanks for the comments - looks like a very nice lens.
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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    I've got this lens and use it with an A7S. I got it primarily for indoor UWA photography but haven't yet used it for that except the last photo below. Here are a few test photos that may be helpful to those thinking about the lens. I use it with a Voigtlander VM adapter which is pretty neat. I have to say, I like the lens a lot but having never used such a wide angle lens before, it came as a shock when I first looked through the viewfinder! None of these have been cropped other than a bit of straightening up and minimal adjustment in LR. It is a lovely lens and beautifully made. Some say at f4.5 it is slow but with the Sony A7S I can just up the ISO and carry on using the camera hand held.







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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    Quote Originally Posted by furtle View Post
    I've got this lens and use it with an A7S. I got it primarily for indoor UWA photography but haven't yet used it for that except the last photo below. Here are a few test photos that may be helpful to those thinking about the lens. I use it with a Voigtlander VM adapter which is pretty neat. I have to say, I like the lens a lot but having never used such a wide angle lens before, it came as a shock when I first looked through the viewfinder! None of these have been cropped other than a bit of straightening up and minimal adjustment is LR. It is a lovely lens and beautifully made. Some say at f4.5 it is slow but with the Sony A7S I can just up the ISO and carry on using the camera hand held.
    Thanks for posting these examples. They really show the potential of the lens. Do you use the VM adapter or the VM-E adapter with the close focus adjustment? If the latter, what's your opinion? It's pricey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Colson View Post
    Thanks for posting these examples. They really show the potential of the lens. Do you use the VM adapter or the VM-E adapter with the close focus adjustment? If the latter, what's your opinion? It's pricey.

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    I use the standard VM adapter.

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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    This lens is actually optimized for Sony bodies. The extreme corner on the M246 is actually softer than on the A7RII
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    Quote Originally Posted by furtle View Post
    I use the standard VM adapter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Colson View Post
    I've got one arriving tomorrow. Can't wait to try it with the a7RM2. I used the Leica WATE on the a7R with good results. I no longer have that lens and have been looking for a sharp super-wide. The Voigtlander 15mm vIII looks the ticket. Metabones adapter arrived yesterday.

    BTW, I use LensTagger in LR to add EXIF in post-processing. That way I can at least keep track of what settings I used for a particular shoot.

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    Hey Joe, did you get a chance to try this lens on the MKII? has anyone else done so? I am very keen to hear about it since it seems to me that a really nice travel setup will be this, the 35mm F2.8, the 55 1.8 and my Macro Elmar 90mm. All small, light and very good lenses.
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    A7rII and CV 15/4.5 vIII
    Fantastic lens



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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    Hey Joe, did you get a chance to try this lens on the MKII? has anyone else done so? I am very keen to hear about it since it seems to me that a really nice travel setup will be this, the 35mm F2.8, the 55 1.8 and my Macro Elmar 90mm. All small, light and very good lenses.
    Tim, I literally just unboxed it and mounted it on the camera (using a Metabones adapter). I'll do some testing later today and tomorrow. The lens is very small and lightweight, as you already know. The 15mm focal length will take some getting used to (by me). Dang, it's super wide!! I've set IBIS to 15mm and that seems to work. Precise focus is difficult to see in the EVF even with 12.5x. The DOF scale should help.

    What you've described as your "travel setup" will almost fit into a shirt pocket.

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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    Quote Originally Posted by hiepphotog View Post
    This lens is actually optimized for Sony bodies. The extreme corner on the M246 is actually softer than on the A7RII
    That sounds great . . . . is that at infinity? (when the rear element is closest to the sensor).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    That sounds great . . . . is that at infinity? (when the rear element is closest to the sensor).
    Yes, at infinity. Link to the test:

    http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/top...77/13#13146724

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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    Quote Originally Posted by hiepphotog View Post
    Yes, at infinity. Link to the test:

    http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/top...77/13#13146724
    Correct me if I am totally off- they all look fuzzy to me.
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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Colson View Post
    Tim, I literally just unboxed it and mounted it on the camera (using a Metabones adapter). I'll do some testing later today and tomorrow. The lens is very small and lightweight, as you already know. The 15mm focal length will take some getting used to (by me). Dang, it's super wide!! I've set IBIS to 15mm and that seems to work. Precise focus is difficult to see in the EVF even with 12.5x. The DOF scale should help.

    What you've described as your "travel setup" will almost fit into a shirt pocket.

    More later.

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    This lens is the perfect point and shoot lens for landscapes. Just stop down to f/8, scale focus, and shoot away. Keeping the camera level will help minimize distortion. Excellent performance on both my A7r and A7rII

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Correct me if I am totally off- they all look fuzzy to me.
    WO, it might be a bit fuzzy but scroll down you'll see his f/8. The lens is not the sharpest 15 by any mean.

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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    Hey Joe, did you get a chance to try this lens on the MKII? has anyone else done so? I am very keen to hear about it since it seems to me that a really nice travel setup will be this, the 35mm F2.8, the 55 1.8 and my Macro Elmar 90mm. All small, light and very good lenses.
    So far, so good. Quick backyard test shot. Sharp to the edges. Seems to get better to about f/11. Needed CA reduction in LR (+10 on the Amount slider). I'll need a less "contrasty" day to really evaluate performance.



    Apologies for "Hellar" instead of "Heliar" in the EXIF.

    It's a keeper. And a relative bargain at $749 USD. Thanks to all who have recommended this lens and provided sample images.

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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    Glad you like it Joe. Focusing is tough with this little gem. I open up focus than stop down. I have not seen any focus shift. For the money it can't be beat
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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    Another thanks to Guy for putting me onto this lens. I use it with a cheap Fotasy adapter, and it is great! I do have a second copy of the Fotasy which is not so great, but what can you expect at that price.

    Shot the Voigtlander against a Sony 16-35 at 16mm today, and the Voigtlander was the clear winner, especially after correcting the Sony distortion (Voigtlander has much less distortion).

    Here are the raws from the f/8 comparison: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B93...ew?usp=sharing

    Question is, do I need the Batis 25 in between the Voigt 15 and Sony 35? I'm beginning to think I don't.
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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    Hard to not get that 25 to be honest. Really love it myself
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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    First time out with the 15mm. Love how small it is.

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    Wish the version III was available before I sold a kidney and purchased the Zeiss 15 2.8. Stellar lens but it is BIG.
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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    What M mount adapters are you guys using? There appears to be several options from B&H, with some costing 3x as much as others. Why the price difference?

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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    Metabones the 100 dollar one I am using. Works great
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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    I had written to Stephen Gandy at Cameraquest to ask him to check with Voigtlander to see if there was any way that we could get this lens without a fixed hood. This is the link that he sent me back today: http://rangefinderforum.com/forums/s...hreadid=151583

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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    Looks like me cutting my hood off was a good idea
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    Re: Voigtlander 15mm Version III on a Sony A7II test

    I just came upon an interesting comparison (by Amin Sabet) between the Sony FE 16-35mm F4 and the Voigtländer 15mm F3.5 III.

    What makes it interesting is that there are many crops. The pictures were shot at F8 with an A7rII, which makes sense for such short focal lenses.

    https://www.talkemount.com/threads/13736/

    The Voigtländer comes slightly ahead, not surprising given the zooms nature.

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