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    Sony A7RII/ Batis 25mm , Batis 85mm and Sony 35mm 1.4 System Tests

    Well I always said you buy a system not a piece of gear, so I am doing something completely different here on this thread . Folks it does not get much better than these 3 lenses and a A7RII. So why not put it all together in one package. I will start with the lenses and move into the A7RII with some specific tests and most everything was shot with these 3 lenses plus my little sweetheart of a lens the Voightlander 15 Version III.

    Now the lens tests are boring and I apologize right out of the gate . But its a scene I have tested hundreds of lenses against and it has what i need for a good test. I can test the corners and central sharpness with ease and I can immediately tell how good a lens is or if it has a issue which my 35mm does and I will bring that up as well. I have a assymetrical issue with the Sony 35mm 1.4 which seems a few folks have the same issue. The left side is worse than the right top corners but at F4 its very clean in all the corners. But the reason its not going anywhere is even at 1.4 in the center 5.6 is no better its that good wide open. For landscape I would only care at F4 , 5.6 for the corners but for people shots wide open I do not care about my corners. So its a keeper

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    Re: Sony A7RII/ Batis 25mm , Batis 85mm and Sony 35mm 1.4 System Tests

    Lets start with the Batis 25mm. Here I am only concerned with the corner performance of the lens and when we get sharp across the image. Wide open these are blazingly good in the central part of the image. I will show that after the corners on these 3 lenses.

    Tech details. A7rII on a tripod shot with 2 second delay, EFSC is on. Steady shot is off and all lens corrections in camera are off.

    One point of note is i am in very bright daylight and shooting at 1.4 and F2 I exceeded 1/8000 shutter limitation so these frames are overexposed than I brought the exposure back down in post. I also did correct in post some of the vignetting as to keep the corners looking the same as far as exposure. I will post raws and you can play if you want

    This building is not straight in any way shape or form. No distortion correction in post either. Thats a test i need to shoot specifically for that

    I am processing everything in C1 Pro with a sharpening setting of 325,.5,.5

    Nothing else has been done. This is my basic sharpening for this new Cam. The A7r was 300, .6, .6

    These files are much different than the A7r. I said this within the first days of getting this camera that the files are much smoother in look than the A7r and more getting into look more like film and MF digital backs. I owned 5 Phase backs so I know MF extremely well. This is the best i have seen ANY 35m cam come close to look of a MF back. Thats saying a truck load right there.

    Okay here we go
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    Re: Sony A7RII/ Batis 25mm , Batis 85mm and Sony 35mm 1.4 System Tests

    Batis 25mm F2 lens

    Overall scene here> no vignetting adjustments here














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    Re: Sony A7RII/ Batis 25mm , Batis 85mm and Sony 35mm 1.4 System Tests

    As you can see even wide open at F2 is pretty good looking and by F4 right on the money. Note at F11 you start to see the effects of diffraction. So use F11 with caution. This looks very normal if not better than most 24/25 in its class. I have seen worse but not sure i have seen better.
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    Re: Sony A7RII/ Batis 25mm , Batis 85mm and Sony 35mm 1.4 System Tests

    Lets get into the 85mm Batis and i will save the Zeiss /Sony 35mm F1.4 last becuase it does look to have a slight skew/asymmetry issue.













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    Re: Sony A7RII/ Batis 25mm , Batis 85mm and Sony 35mm 1.4 System Tests

    Looks pretty good wide open but again around F4 its starts to put the pedal down on corner sharpness. Just a hint here wide open centrally is a real surprise. I even hit the nyquist frequency handheld wide open in NY shooting a building. Thats never happened
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    Re: Sony A7RII/ Batis 25mm , Batis 85mm and Sony 35mm 1.4 System Tests

    Lets move on the the Zeiss 35mm 1.4 lens which I find this lens to be outstanding. Although I may have a slight issue with skew/asymmetry issue. My left upper corner looks softer than my right upper corner. Lets post the test than I will compare those two in another post. Again shooting at 1.4 i am pretty overexposed so I did have to bring that down maybe 1.5 stops in post. Just FYI
















    I forgot to shoot F11 here but you see see the diffraction starting to set in
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    Re: Sony A7RII/ Batis 25mm , Batis 85mm and Sony 35mm 1.4 System Tests

    Hard one to call because of the skew/asymmetry issue. But even at 2.8 it looks pretty darn good and really gets going at F4.
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    Re: Sony A7RII/ Batis 25mm , Batis 85mm and Sony 35mm 1.4 System Tests

    So lets go back to the 35mm at 1.4 image I processed both corners. Upper left and Upper right. As you can see the upper right at 1.4 looks better than the left side and remember i did post the left side above. Now even though I see this as a slight issue the question remains at F4 and wider type shots for me at least they are people or things I want more of a artsy look anyway so I am really not concerned about corners so much. When i get into my advertising work and landscape than yes I want sharp corner at F4 and below. Now here is the clincher why I am not sending it in for repair. Centrally I never seen a 35 1.4 perform so dang good wide open. Maybe the Sigma 35 art but that lens has a lot of field curvature and Af was not always brilliant and worse I had to go through 3 copies of it. So don't just blame Sony here every lens and every OEM there are a few duds that make it past the IQ dept. But here is my basic problem. There is no guarantee they can fix it for one, or buy another and take a chance and will I get a copy so good centrally. Im not so sure I want to take that risk. YMMV of course



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    Re: Sony A7RII/ Batis 25mm , Batis 85mm and Sony 35mm 1.4 System Tests

    So closing out the corner test. There is no doubt the 35mm 1.4 will test better in the corners maybe with a more corrected lens so that F4 looking pretty darn good might be a 2.8. Just something to keep in mind or I did a right side test. LOL

    I think you all get the idea

    Moving on to the center sharpness of these 3 lenses. Wow here i have to say i am just blown away. i never tested 3 lenses that centrally are so sharp wide open that stopping down only helps DOF. This is pretty interesting and frankly i am not going to post after F4 as there is no point in it.
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    Re: Sony A7RII/ Batis 25mm , Batis 85mm and Sony 35mm 1.4 System Tests

    Let me add here is where to look at the Vignetting of each lens as i did not correct that at all since I am working on this centrally. Again i did adjust exposure in post to bring down the 1.4 and F2 over exposed shots because of the bright light.

    Lets start with the 35mm











    I do see a little CA in the 1.4 shot but sharpness wise its just brilliant wide open. Its not a cheap lens and you get what you pay for is all I can say.
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    Re: Sony A7RII/ Batis 25mm , Batis 85mm and Sony 35mm 1.4 System Tests

    Batis 25mm and again i shot past F4 but no reason to post. I will upload the whole series though







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    Re: Sony A7RII/ Batis 25mm , Batis 85mm and Sony 35mm 1.4 System Tests

    The Batis 25mm is just amazing. Im lost for words on it. You decide


    Batis 85mm









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    Re: Sony A7RII/ Batis 25mm , Batis 85mm and Sony 35mm 1.4 System Tests

    So there you have it with 3 of the best Native lenses you can hang off your A7rII.

    Just a note from me. I love all three , very fast AF, well balanced and just outstanding performance. We need more obviously and the Batis line I am very very impressed with. There light and they just feel good on the camera. Note to Zeiss 135 and 200 right away please. Oh and don't forget a 18 or 21


    Lets move on to the A7RII. This is not a review and i have my personal reasons for actually not doing one after this announcement for Sony I felt some reviewers blew it on some things , so I don't want to be that guy.

    Now lets be very clear here before I go one step further. No one pays me to do these test, Im not sleeping with Sony and Google ads are not making me rich and Im certainly not doing a subscription site. I admit to a few things I am part owner of GetDPI and I do put on workshops after that I get my money from clients that hire me and they don't give a hoot on what I am shooting just what i am delivering. I do these tests mainly for me to know what i have in my hands when i am getting paid to shoot. Its that simple, buy one don't buy one I don't really care but if you ask for advice i will certainly give it as I have done hundreds of time. My goal is be ready for anything on a shoot but my ultimate goal is just to give back to a life long career in this industry. Thats it

    The A7rII has been talked about quite a bit lately and its release has seemed to spark the industry with its cutting edge technology. Im not going to go into all that detail but I will say this out of the gate. At this moment in time its the best 35mm digital camera i ever had in my hands . PERIOD
    I owned them all and I owned many Medium Format backs and I made 5 statements when I had this the first two days. Here they are and I am sticking to my guns here and my mind is even firmer on it after a couple weeks. Do we have some things to address . Yes Sony does but Im not getting into that at the moment , maybe later when we get more answers.

    DR better by maybe 1/2 stop over the A7r
    Noise floor looks like two stops of high ISO advantage over the A7r
    Smokes the crap out of the A7r on feature sets and fixes
    Major improvement in AF. It actually works
    File: best 35mm files I have seen that have a very smooth look to them with a film like look and closest to Medium Format yet. This one is the most important. The files just do not look that digital. There is a lot of headroom for sharpening but out of the box its very very smooth. Whether you keep that look or apply sharpening is up to taste but you get some nice options

    I'll add another C1 seems to be doing a very good job on these files. Not sure i can say that right now for ACR and LR. I am not sure Adobe has tuned it to perfection yet from what I am seeing. Those are not fighting words just what I am seeing and yes If I have a bias C1 is it.

    Here is a Link to all the files above

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    Re: Sony A7RII/ Batis 25mm , Batis 85mm and Sony 35mm 1.4 System Tests

    12 bit vs 14 bit In REAL WORLD


    Lots of discussion on this topic and Im sure there is lost data and all that stuff but what i was wondering in a real world shoot would you really see something dramatic in the file. So I just finished shooting the lens test and camera still on tripod so I thought whats the simplest way to get into 12 bit. Silent shutter was a easy one to go back and forth

    So I took the normal 14 bit shot or Sonys standard than flipped on Silent Mode and did that. Here is straight out of the camera





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    Now the question is this would I deliver this image like it is presented here to a client. And know that 12 bit affects the shadows. So I decided to lift the shadows in both images and lets take a peak deep in the corners of the dark world. LOL

    So I went in back to C1 and gave the Shadows a 50 percent increase in exposure



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    Some 100 percent crops



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    Re: Sony A7RII/ Batis 25mm , Batis 85mm and Sony 35mm 1.4 System Tests

    Im not seeing anything at this level but maybe there is something there that I am just not seeing but in real world makes one wonder. This was something I just wanted to try and just visually see. BTW Batis 25mm at F8

    Here are the raws and if you see something post it please

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    First file is 14 bit 9271
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    Re: Sony A7RII/ Batis 25mm , Batis 85mm and Sony 35mm 1.4 System Tests

    A7RII Noise Test

    This was shot in a little church in Jerome that is just a great place to run some tests. The altar is perfect for noise tests as you can see it come up and detail go down as you go up the scale.


    Now I processed these in C1 with C1 standard noise settings everything at 50 and single pixel I put at 1. I will load these raws up as well and let you folks play



















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    Re: Sony A7RII/ Batis 25mm , Batis 85mm and Sony 35mm 1.4 System Tests

    Im really loving the fact that ISO 6400 is totally usable and with a little touch of pixel dust in C1 not to mention all those great noise programs out there this has become a very very useful low light camera. Pretty exciting stuff



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    Re: Sony A7RII/ Batis 25mm , Batis 85mm and Sony 35mm 1.4 System Tests

    Raws for the Noise test

    https://www.hightail.com/download/bX...ZEt3NUpOeDhUQw


    Steady shot on or off with Tripod

    One would think coming from my Canon days with IS when on tripod you turn IS off. Well you would assume that be the case with Sony as well and maybe thats a great assumption. But turning this off and on is a PITA frankly. So i thought what the heck lets test it. So i figured what would be best is a longer lens as it would show any movement of the sensor better. So i used the Batis 85mm. All I got long so folks try this with longer glass. Than i thought lets try to shoot at a slow handheld speed which would surely be using IBIS so it was 1/6th of a second. What i did not expect was no effect at all.

    Now i am on a tripod and locked down like glue but my guess here and i do not know the answer but I am hoping the answer is when IBIS is at rest than it stays at rest. This way it senses no movement so it just pauses or turns off.Again i don't know the answer but if that was the case than you would not have to turn IBIS off and frankly after this test. Im not so sure you have too because i see no effect at all. I would think movement with it on





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    Re: Sony A7RII/ Batis 25mm , Batis 85mm and Sony 35mm 1.4 System Tests

    What you don't know was i did this whole thread in private behind the scenes here at GetDPI because I have the control to do that but this took a long time and i wanted it as one piece. I left the A7RII at the end so we can talk about it and I can add more test to the back end of this. Im not going to give a commentary here as most of it has already been said but as i said in the beginning this is the most exciting camera in recent years and so far its hitting the ceiling. Yes there are some niggles and yes Sony needs to work on the 14 Bit Lossy raw. Frankly Im a little tired of reading about it. Why I am not going there on this piece , plenty of forums and threads working out the stars 16 million miles away and if they are streaking. It had to be said. LOL

    Anyway have fun all the raws are up. Hopefully this answers a few questions and sparks some more questions. Yes the Batis rocks the house . LOL

    Im going to have fun now and put up some FUN images instead of this boring stuff.
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    Re: Sony A7RII/ Batis 25mm , Batis 85mm and Sony 35mm 1.4 System Tests

    Very interesting stuff. Thanks for taking the time to put it together!

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    It looks like your 6400 noise reduction shots might be swapped; the 'after' version looks noisier to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeEvangelist View Post
    Very interesting stuff. Thanks for taking the time to put it together!

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    It looks like your 6400 noise reduction shots might be swapped; the 'after' version looks noisier to me.
    It might have been me Mike. I was getting a little winery at that point. Been up since 5 am working on it. The raws are there so please play with them and see what works best.
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    Re: Sony A7RII/ Batis 25mm , Batis 85mm and Sony 35mm 1.4 System Tests

    Gotta run to the store but I have some images like this to post for sure so please check in later

    Batis 25mm. Folks BUY this lens

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    Many many thanks Guy for your tour de force. Very impressive results.
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    Re: Sony A7RII/ Batis 25mm , Batis 85mm and Sony 35mm 1.4 System Tests

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    The raws are there so please play with them and see what works best.
    Here's a very quick pass from Lightroom, with my usual settings, plus noise reduction. I went for slightly less detail and a little smoother noise. (settings shown below)

    As you've already pointed out: remarkable results at this ISO.

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    Re: Sony A7RII/ Batis 25mm , Batis 85mm and Sony 35mm 1.4 System Tests

    Why do I read these threads?? Excellent work and examples. Gahhh, my pocket feeling lighter but the Batis lenses aren't around right now so I guess for some time I am safe. lol

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    Awesome test. Pretty much answered all my questions regarding the A7RII Image Quality.

    Also, since you have a lot of experience with a wide range of camera / lens combinations your opinion has a lot of weight.

    Thanks for sharing.

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    Thank you hugely for all the work and all the sharing Guy.

    There's so much to digest but for sure those lenses look amazing. Will read and re-read until i have questions.
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    Thanks Guy. Great job in illustrating just how good this camera is.

    However I didn't think lower bit depth, (from 14 to 12), would effect shadow detail. I thought it effected colors by reducing the number of levels of gray available for each channel. I believe by limiting the steps in density it can also cause banding. In any case I always thought 12bit color was more then enough for great images in most cases.

    Please correct me if I'm confused here.

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    Great work Guy.

    Now, please do the same comparing the Batis 25 and the Sony FE16-35 @ 25mm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShooterSteve View Post
    Thanks Guy. Great job in illustrating just how good this camera is.

    However I didn't think lower bit depth, (from 14 to 12), would effect shadow detail. I thought it effected colors by reducing the number of levels of gray available for each channel. I believe by limiting the steps in density it can also cause banding. In any case I always thought 12bit color was more then enough for great images in most cases.

    Please correct me if I'm confused here.

    I thought it was shadows mostly but could be wrong. Im hoping our engineers here will tear them apart and give us some answers. I thought it was a good test image because it has a lot of color and also a lot of deep shadows so maybe we can learn something from it. I honestly don't think I have been faced with 12 bit before, so I am very curious as well because Silent mode could be very handy and if its a very small loss in IQ than that maybe okay. Also there are other shooting situations it drops into 12 bit so the more we can truly learn on a real world basis than thats good data for us end users. I love the science but we deal in either printing or delivering of high quality images. So where is our wall
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    Some from the Batis 85 all of this are handheld. Im doing creative processing now

    Shot at ISO 100 1/25 at 1.8. Love that IBIS



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    Guy thanks for this thread. It helps a lot to understand this camera and lenses. Downloading the files now.
    Would be interesting comparing the FORD truck file to the one you shot with the 50mxp LEAF back a while ago.

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    Re: Sony A7RII/ Batis 25mm , Batis 85mm and Sony 35mm 1.4 System Tests

    Thank you Guy!!! This review work is fabulous and so helpful. I have had the Batis lenses on order since latter part of April and B&H has told me they still don't know when they will come in. I have also learned I don't have to turn off the sensor steadyshot off when on tripod....notice no difference whether on or off. Thanks again for all your work and time on this! I really like this camera! eleanor

    PS I downloaded the 2 RAWs of Big Bronco and compared in C1. tried several things to push them over their limits including blowing out the shadow area and magnifying to the max C1 offers. To my eye I see literally no difference. Would also have liked to compare these to a lossless RAW shot the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antonio Chagin View Post
    Guy thanks for this thread. It helps a lot to understand this camera and lenses. Downloading the files now.
    Would be interesting comparing the FORD truck file to the one you shot with the 50mxp LEAF back a while ago.
    Been thinking about that. It was the last time I was there and shot the Credo 50 with the Phase 55mm lens I believe. Might have to look into that
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    Quote Originally Posted by eleanorbrown View Post
    Thank you Guy!!! This review work is fabulous and so helpful. I have had the Batis lenses on order since latter part of April and B&H has told me they still don't know when they will come in. I have also learned I don't have to turn off the sensor steadyshot off when on tripod....notice no difference whether on or off. Thanks again for all your work and time on this! I really like this camera! eleanor

    PS I downloaded the 2 RAWs of Big Bronco and compared in C1. tried several things to push them over their limits including blowing out the shadow area and magnifying to the max C1 offers. To my eye I see literally no difference. Would also have liked to compare these to a lossless RAW shot the same time.
    Thanks Eleanor for working on the files. Im just not seeing anything either on the 12 bit/14 bit scenario. Also good hear about IBIS on and off with tripod. Maybe my guess is correct that IBIS just goes to rest when it senses no movement. Might just take that off one of my custom buttons now.
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    Thanks for all this material and for your generosity in making the raws available.

    Here is a lab test http://www.focus-numerique.com/test-...est-8.html#p04 of the 35mm f1.4 that corroborates your finding that you need to get to f/4 to bring up the edges. In that respect, it seems no exception to most fast lenses, although I think that if you are prepared to forgo AF, the Summilux or the ZM Zeiss might be even better. (Here are some comparison shots http://www.talkemount.com/threads/13322/: as ever, it is hard to distinguish lenses from compressed web browser shots even on a retina screen.)

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    Great info Guy and many thanks. Your 35mm images were of particular interest to me because I struggled between that and the Loxia. Eventually chose the Loxia (for me it was the size advantage and little need for autofocus). But I found similar issues on the right side. I too decided to keep it and just remember to shoot images with important corner details @ > f/5.6.

    Thanks again for the effort that went into this.

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    After a second look I can't get over how impressive the quality of the images are. You did quite a bit of work for us Guy, and I thank you for sharing in such detail. You're also making me miss Arizona more and more. I used to travel there quite a bit and really long for that scenery and that light.

    Thanks again, hoping to have mine for an upcoming shoot in a few weeks but my A7R still keeps me happy for now.

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    fantastic work, and expert commentary as always, thanks Guy.

    The Batis lenses will change everything, these images reinforce what the MTF was indicating, Zeiss really know how to make the trade offs. Suitably encouraged, they will now move on to give Sony users many more great lenses (at great prices too, let's not forget that). Crank up the production schedules! We should hear soon what comes next.
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    A big thanks for all these time consuming tests. I appreciate.

    Inspite of all the hype, I'm not going for the A7rII : I prefer the lighter A7r and smaller body; plus I don't need the speedier AF. I would appreciate IBIS and EFCS plus silent shutter, but I don't need more pixels either (36MB already requires a lot of storage). Given all those considerations and adding in the serious price rise between the mk1 and mk2, I choose to wait and see whether Sony won't issue other A7 models keeping the small form factor, but adding IBIS and EFCS.

    I was already eyeing the Batis 25mm, but your test confirms that I will love it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeEvangelist View Post
    Here's a very quick pass from Lightroom, with my usual settings, plus noise reduction. I went for slightly less detail and a little smoother noise. (settings shown below)

    As you've already pointed out: remarkable results at this ISO.

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    I think Mike was working on the 6400.
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    Re: Sony A7RII/ Batis 25mm , Batis 85mm and Sony 35mm 1.4 System Tests

    Loving the 25Batis the 85 looks ok ...35 looks meh...
    I reckon I might pick one of these cameras up .

    thanks for posting these shots Guy

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    Lots of work, Guy, thanks so much. I did make an observation regarding the 85mm. In your post #5 showing 100% pixels at f1.8 the building and light are obviously soft. However, the item on the pole behind it 'is' much more in focus and I would say really in focus compared to the building..... just an observation.

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    Thanks for all the great work, Guy! Can't wait to get my two Batis lenses!

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    Batis 25mm. Folks BUY this lens
    I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying!! On order and still waiting.

    Thanks for all the hard work in putting this thread together. And thanks for making your RAW files available for folks to play with. Very generous of you.

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