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    Batis 85mm Distortion

    Been wanting to run this test. I was waiting for Capture One lens profile so I can see how it does. One issue when testing something like this is being level and it seems with anybody I pick Nikon, Sony there on screen level is close but not 100 percent accurate. As much as i tried it looks like I'm pointing up ever so slightly. Obviously you can fix this in post before or after the lens profile is applied. It kind of bums me out a little but the best I ever used in any camera setup was a tech cam. Okay 40k less I can live with it. LOL

    It just does not make me as accurate as I wanna be but you get the idea here( I'm just very anal when testing). What I did was shoot raw and jpeg so ignore color differences and such. This test is to see how the lens profile works. I have in camera distortion correction turned off on the jpegs and the raws i applied the lens correction in Capture One. So it is the identical shot. I left a little room on the sides so you can see more clearly the vertical adjustment. Anyway the Batis 85mm is known to have about 3 percent distortion which for a mid tele is pretty high. I checked sharpness and I'm not seeing any visible effect on loss of sharpness after the lens profile so that is the good news. The distortion is fixable so for critical work it really looks like a simple pin cushion which is also good so a easy fix... Anyway onto two sets of images










    Just for the record Im not posting it but the Batis 25. I can barely see any distortion.


    I should ad here a lot of folks have been asking me about the Batis 85 and Sony 90mm Macro. I have to say I never seen two lenses in the same family focal length that are pretty darn equal yet different. Its really a tough call. The 85 1.8 is amazingly sharp wide open to the point I hit the nyquist level for moire' sometimes even wide open so its sharp as a laser. The corners get it really going around F4 and its fast, light weight and the A7rII love it in regards to AF, eye AF, Continuous Af and so on. So it fits the system very very well. Than you see the 90mm macro and its a freaking laser which is awesome but damn does this make the chose harder . It is slower , bigger and heavier so there is a trade off. All I can recommend is try them both or if you have special speed needs than the Batis will not disappoint and even if you don't do much macro the 90 is killer good. Good news on the 90 you can buy it today get it tomorrow. The Macro has less distortion as well so if that bugs you on the 85 you have a option. Im honestly stuck for a definitive buy this one over that one scenario. They are both so good.
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    Re: Batis 85mm Distortion

    As you can see I'm ever so slightly pointed up so take that into account.


    BTW Im on a 5 story parking garage looking squarely at Chase Bank building here in Phoenix
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    Re: Batis 85mm Distortion

    I need me a Batis, might just get the 90mm as I am getting tired of waiting.
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    Re: Batis 85mm Distortion

    My local camera store, Southeastern Camera, recently told me that the Batis 85mm isn't expected until December based on a recent update they received from their supplier.

    I've got the FE 90mm Macro and love it. I'm on the waiting list for the Batis 85mm.

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    Re: Batis 85mm Distortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Colson View Post
    My local camera store, Southeastern Camera, recently told me that the Batis 85mm isn't expected until December based on a recent update they received from their supplier.

    I've got the FE 90mm Macro and love it. I'm on the waiting list for the Batis 85mm.

    Joe
    Thats terrible news Joe. MY comments on the 90 are from you folks posting images, I have yet to shoot it but I can tell immediately how good it is . So thanks to the 90 owners posting images. This stuff helps all of us on your image posting. Why I constantly say please tell us what lens. That and I'm a lens whore and may want it too. LOL
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    Re: Batis 85mm Distortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    I can tell immediately how good it is.
    The 90mm is crazy good. If it was an 2 it would be perfect.

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    Re: Batis 85mm Distortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Colson View Post
    My local camera store, Southeastern Camera, recently told me that the Batis 85mm isn't expected until December based on a recent update they received from their supplier.

    I've got the FE 90mm Macro and love it. I'm on the waiting list for the Batis 85mm.

    Joe
    There's been a trickle of reports of Batis 85's shipping in the last few days. From B&H, Adorama, Focus and other places. Not to me, though--I'm apparently still too far down the list. I'm getting by with my 70-200 G, which is excellent at most focal lengths and medium apertures. It gets pretty big and heavy after a few hours, though.

    I keep telling myself it's a good thing that I have to wait, since my bank account is still recovering from paying for an A7RII!

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    Re: Batis 85mm Distortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Colson View Post
    My local camera store, Southeastern Camera, recently told me that the Batis 85mm isn't expected until December based on a recent update they received from their supplier.
    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Thats terrible news Joe.
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    There's been a trickle of reports of Batis 85's shipping in the last few days. From B&H, Adorama, Focus and other places. Not to me, though--I'm apparently still too far down the list.
    Well my local camera store, Southeastern Camera, called yesterday and told me that they had received one Batis 85mm lens and that I was at the top of their waiting list. I raced over immediately and now have the lens. Just a few test shots so far, but, even with limited use, it looks like a keeper. You were right David. There must be a few in the pipeline.

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    Re: Batis 85mm Distortion

    Well your one of the few folks that have both the 90 and 85. Love to hear your thoughts. Congrats too
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    Re: Batis 85mm Distortion

    I managed to get the 85mm today. My usual Sony dealer received one copy yesterday, which went to someone well ahead of me. Fortunately, I had my name at another dealer specializing in video gear, where they also got one copy in. I'm actually surprised it found its way to me. The dealers are pretty frustrated by Zeiss, apparently new Batis orders are expected to take up to 3 months.

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    I've already waited more than three months at B&H.... Glad you got one, though!

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