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    Quote Originally Posted by bipbip View Post
    Actually I think they're right about using the same little battery across all their models. Many have more than one Sony camera and with one interchangeable battery it makes life much easier. Also bear in mind that bigger battery means inevitably bigger and heavier camera. Unless you're a machine gunner, 300 shots before stopping to change a battery; what, 30 seconds? Can't be such a bind.
    With 35mm film it was every 36 shots, medium format, even more frequently. I do think popping a couple of small batteries in a pocket is well worth the difference.
    It's a common meme to complain of battery life. The beauty of this camera is the size and having an extra battery in your pocket vs a larger camera should be an easy decision. Don't people have to charge their cell phones every day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PCinAZ View Post
    Don't people have to charge their cell phones every day?
    No. Mine (a Samsung) does not need to be charged for a few weeks and is tiny.

    The battery life on this cam is pathetic and no one can deny it.

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    No question about the Sony - I always carry 2 batteries with the RX1 and think about maybe carrying more.

    However I need to get one of your phone batteries. I have a Samsung phone as well and it doesn't always make it through one day. It would never make it through two days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMaher View Post
    No question about the Sony - I always carry 2 batteries with the RX1 and think about maybe carrying more.

    However I need to get one of your phone batteries. I have a Samsung phone as well and it doesn't always make it through one day. It would never make it through two days.

    Jim
    I was able make mine last about 5 days, if I turn off wifi, GPS, BT, 4G/3G data and switch it back to 2G and I don't use its camera or music player and just answer texts and calls. Also turning off the display as soon as possible after use.
    If its just used as a phone it will last, its all this other computing that eats the power.

    I've changed to a Mi phone and their power management is one of the best.

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    Mine has been on order for so long, and now there's the manufacturing delay. I've banged in a best offer on eBay for a used Leica Q and if I get it, I'll go with that instead. I had a play with one in a shop a couple weeks ago and it was so nice that I've been torn ever since and it may well be that I have enough 36mp cameras already!

    I've also been a bit put off by some of the things Lloyd has been saying. I know he's not everyone's cup of tea but I like his work, he's thorough, and he has identified some issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    I know he's not everyone's cup of tea but I like his work..
    What kind of work?

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    What kind of work?
    His reviews. They're thorough and once you know which bees are buzzing in his bonnet (all reviewers have them) and can decode them accordingly, you learn thorough and insightful things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PCinAZ View Post
    It's a common meme to complain of battery life. The beauty of this camera is the size and having an extra battery in your pocket vs a larger camera should be an easy decision. Don't people have to charge their cell phones every day?
    I tend to see it the same way. One could see that battery life as a call for quality over quantity.

    Only a few years ago it would have sounded completely lunatic to get a camera this tiny that can go into MF territory with it's excellent lens and sensor performance. Sony decided to keep the size that small and leave it slightly underpowered for today's standard where hundreds of images in one day seems the rule rather than 2-3 rolls of film max (2 or 3x36 shots) . If one shoots carefully (which for me means to carefully compose and select the right moment) and carries that extra battery it should be a non- issue.
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    I came from film 8x10 right down to a Minox. Battery life is a joke to me. . LOL
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    His reviews. They're thorough and once you know which bees are buzzing in his bonnet (all reviewers have them) and can decode them accordingly, you learn thorough and insightful things.
    I will give you a tip:

    Check here (appropriate section): https://community.sony.com/

    to read about the issues with various Sony gear.

    Real users based on actual experience reporting and it is for free.

    For example, have you heard of the "Star Eater" issue with the A7s?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    Mine has been on order for so long, and now there's the manufacturing delay. I've banged in a best offer on eBay for a used Leica Q and if I get it, I'll go with that instead. I had a play with one in a shop a couple weeks ago and it was so nice that I've been torn ever since and it may well be that I have enough 36mp cameras already!

    I've also been a bit put off by some of the things Lloyd has been saying. I know he's not everyone's cup of tea but I like his work, he's thorough, and he has identified some issues.
    If you get that Q, you won't regret it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by algrove View Post
    If you get that Q, you won't regret it.
    It's in my sweaty hands as we speak....
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    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    Mine has been on order for so long, and now there's the manufacturing delay. I've banged in a best offer on eBay for a used Leica Q and if I get it, I'll go with that instead.
    It's really sad when Leica can deliver and Sony can't... I'm starting to think your move may be the best one to make. Sony not speaking about the issue isn't helping people feel good about the delay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSRockit View Post
    It's really sad when Leica can deliver and Sony can't... I'm starting to think your move may be the best one to make. Sony not speaking about the issue isn't helping people feel good about the delay.
    Ahh, but try to make the Leica Q app work on your iPad and you'll be cursing everything that ever came out of Germany with a lens on it...

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    Do you really think that most photographers use an Ipad ?
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    Re: Rx1r2 and Lloyd

    I'm not familiar with "Lloyd" -- does anyone have the link to Lloyd's reviews/ comments about the Rx1r2.
    I'd like to read what he has said.
    Thank you.

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    http://diglloyd.com/

    A lot of his stuff requires a subscription.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulyss Bowman View Post
    Do you really think that most photographers use an Ipad ?
    Yup, I use one with my Phase One gear all the time. Capture Pilot. Indispensable.

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    I tried Capture Pilot with my A7R2 but it should work on my RX1 as well. Worked great as a way to have someone see what I am shooting as I shoot. Thinking about setting it so that I have the iPad on a stand next to me in a studio shoot.

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    One of these days I would love to play with the Q.
    In the meantime over the past couple of weeks I've been testing the new Sony Rx1rii.
    I have a brief write-up over at Steve Huff's site.
    If interested the link is below.
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    Except for the sluggish feel of the camera, no major complaints so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Smoking Camera View Post
    One of these days I would love to play with the Q.
    In the meantime over the past couple of weeks I've been testing the new Sony Rx1rii.
    I have a brief write-up over at Steve Huff's site.
    If interested the link is below.
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    Except for the sluggish feel of the camera, no major complaints so far.
    Aloha.
    Familiarity would help with the sluggishness.
    Like that post that cleared up your complaint about the Eye AF (also check post #656 from Chad on the Eye AD).

    Lovely pics!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Nice to know my v.1 camera is not so obsolete

    And, yes, agree with you about familiarity fixing the sluggishness. Once I got my head around the awful menu system and set the camera up for my type of shooting (almost always in manual), I never had an issue with it's speed -- and I use the original RX1.

    Still not convinced I need the R2 but it's been fun reading about it. Ta!
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    I fully acknowledge my unfamiliarity with Sony menus and controls. It's been over a year since I shot with the Rx1 so feels like I'm learning the camera all over again. Thanks Vivek.
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    It's horses for courses again. This is why most of us have a camera selection I used my "old" RX1 for this shot in Amsterdam. It was almost pitch black out there and after a couple of drinks in the pub I stopped to take this shot with my companions urging me to hurry, so just a snap really. I was still amazedly what I got from it. Yes there's a tiny bit of wobble and the A7RII would undoubtedly produced a better file but still, I'm happy! iso 6400 1/13th.
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    I was wondering what people who have used the new cam think of the viewfinder. Is it fiddly or solid? Is it enjoyable to use, or just a decent fallback option when the ambient light is too strong? TIA!

    --d

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    Quote Originally Posted by cam View Post
    Nice to know my v.1 camera is not so obsolete

    And, yes, agree with you about familiarity fixing the sluggishness. Once I got my head around the awful menu system and set the camera up for my type of shooting (almost always in manual), I never had an issue with it's speed -- and I use the original RX1.

    Still not convinced I need the R2 but it's been fun reading about it. Ta!
    It is not my intention to convince anyone to buy RX1R II. Sony have paid people for that.

    I like the tilt LCD. It is very useful for me.

    Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr

    RX1R II, The Hague

    A 14MP crop of the original capture- pretty easy to do with the R II.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidstock View Post
    I was wondering what people who have used the new cam think of the viewfinder. Is it fiddly or solid? Is it enjoyable to use, or just a decent fallback option when the ambient light is too strong? TIA!

    --d
    It is quite useful (I had very low expectations) and is also a decent fall back option.

    Using it results in sharper picture (more stable held that way) for me when I use it.

    What I am trying to say is that it depends on the user.

    The quality is very good though!
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    Robert, Is your new plastic grip ready?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    Ahh, but try to make the Leica Q app work on your iPad and you'll be cursing everything that ever came out of Germany with a lens on it...
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    Does the Q app work on your iPhone? Mine works fine.

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    Is it something that takes care of the banding generated by the Leica Q?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Is it something that takes care of the banding generated by the Leica Q?
    I get no banding on over 6000 shots with my Q.

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    Awesome, Lou!

    Any of those 6000 snaps going to be public or they are top secret/under NDA?

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    Turning back from Q to R2:

    I've seen a couple of them for sale, used. I wonder whether these are just folks with buyers' remorse, or whether the glitch that's causing the delay in shipping - whatever it is - is causing some re-sales.

    Hard to guess....

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    Quote Originally Posted by thompsonkirk View Post
    Turning back from Q to R2:

    I've seen a couple of them for sale, used. I wonder whether these are just folks with buyers' remorse, or whether the glitch that's causing the delay in shipping - whatever it is - is causing some re-sales.

    Hard to guess....

    Kirk
    Wouldn't it be something that they put it up for sale because they are defective?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thompsonkirk View Post
    Turning back from Q to R2:

    I've seen a couple of them for sale, used. I wonder whether these are just folks with buyers' remorse, or whether the glitch that's causing the delay in shipping - whatever it is - is causing some re-sales.

    Hard to guess....

    Kirk
    I suspect it's very easy for American buyers to buy, try and send back within 30 days(?) without it costing them much.

    Cheers

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    Latest from Amazon for shipment of RX1RII is 1/30/16 to 3/30/16. Sounds like they really don't know, like everyone else. I gave up and cancelled an old pre-order. I'll wait for the next version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scho View Post
    Latest from Amazon for shipment of RX1RII is 1/30/16 to 3/30/16. Sounds like they really don't know, like everyone else. I gave up and cancelled an old pre-order. I'll wait for the next version.
    I guess I'll do the same thing. A long delay suggests an electronic or mechanical bug, not just firmware. The ones that shipped early might have to be sent in for upgrade.

    I'd like to have a carry-around with same sensor as A7rII, but no rush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thompsonkirk View Post
    A long delay suggests an electronic or mechanical bug, not just firmware. The ones that shipped early might have to be sent in for upgrade.


    Kirk
    While I understand the frustrations about the delay if what you say is true, I will ask Sony to refund the cash instead of a fix. So far, I see no problems with my purchase and it is one heck of a camera.

    Edit: It is exactly 1 month since I bought it. I use it everyday and it has clocked over 3000 exposures (a record for me!) plus an accidental 16min video. Absolutely no issues!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thompsonkirk View Post
    I guess I'll do the same thing. A long delay suggests an electronic or mechanical bug, not just firmware. The ones that shipped early might have to be sent in for upgrade

    Kirk
    At this point, this is 100% speculation, none of which backed up by real or anecdotal experience.

    I understand and sympathize with the frustration. There have been two reported DOAs, hardly an indication of a massive defect. Countless others are reporting flawless operation, myself included (knock on wood).

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    David, Links to those 2 reports?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    David, Links to those 2 reports?
    http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3939791

    In the thread, there is another report of a DOA.

    That's it, the sum total of "issues" with the RX1rII. I think that thread has been bandied about several hundred times in other posts as evidence of massive production defects. And naturally, the Sony haters are bubbling with joy.

    BTW, I am not saying there is zero reason for concern, and I understand the need for caution. This is an expensive item, so best to get it right. But here, I think, paranoia is speaking louder than reality.
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    Re: Rx1r2

    Doublezd, do you hvae any pics from either camera that one can look at? TIA!

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    Hmmmmmm............
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucille View Post
    Hmmmmmm............
    Indeed.

    On the other hand I do agree with doublezd in that there's nothing wrong AT ALL with the RX1r. My only beef is that I wish it had the tilting LCD and AF-ON button capabilities that matched the A7r series. It's just a bit clunky on the RX1r and only in MF mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doublezd View Post
    These are from the Rx1R-- taken on a trip to Louisiana -- just some of the sights along the way.
    They were taken as Raw + JPEG, uploaded into Lightroom when I got home. I didn't edit them at all in post.
    Then, I transferred them as JPEGs from Lightroom to the apple "photo" app on my iPad.
    Strange, the exif of the 2nd to the 6th picture say they're taken with an A7II and the FE55/1.8. The 7th doesn't have any EXIF and only the rest is from a RX1R

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    Quote Originally Posted by pegelli View Post
    Strange, the exif of the 2nd to the 6th picture say they're taken with an A7II and the FE55/1.8. The 7th doesn't have any EXIF and only the rest is from a RX1R
    Quote Originally Posted by doublezd View Post
    Oh damn -- I do have the 7II -- which photo is from that? I will take it down immediately.
    Oh damn.
    Mixing photos from 2 cams on that post was not intentional, and I apologize.
    I used the A7ii and the Rx1R on that trip so I could compare the photos and make a decision about buying the Rx1R.
    When I posted these here last night, I had no access to exif data as I only had my iPad with me which had these photos from that trip.
    I thought they were all from the Rx1R.
    I'm so very embarrassed and very sorry for the confusion of posting pics from my A7ii also.
    If you could see me now, you'd see I am slinking away in embarrassment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doublezd View Post
    I'm so very embarrassed and very sorry for the confusion of posting pics from my A7ii also.
    If you could see me now, you'd see I am slinking away in embarrassment.
    Oh, no need for that. To err is human, so it at least proves you're human
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    Awesome, Lou!

    Any of those 6000 snaps going to be public or they are top secret/under NDA?
    I filed them under the cameras DNA-superb!

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    I filed them under the cameras DNA-superb!
    They do look awesome that way!

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