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    Sony updates the remote app for tablets and mobiles

    I just saw on my iPad that Sony has issued a new version of the PlayMemory Mobile app. on the 26th October. Among the new features :

    Easier connection to the camera with a QR code.
    Improvements to the remote shooting app.

    The remote app. inside of the camera needs to be updated to version 4.0 but it isn't yet available; last version for the moment is 3.3 and was issued back on the 30th July 2015.
    Here is the link to the iPad app :

    PlayMemories Mobile par Sony Corporation https://appsto.re/ch/uBhkD.i

    I assume that Android users will get a similar update.

    Here is where you can upload cameras apps to your camera : https://www.playmemoriescameraapps.com/portal/


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    Re: Sony updates the remote app for tablets and mobiles

    whopeee. Bulb and continuous. Hopefully it will also include bracketing.
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    Remote app is great but got one big problem : once activated in camera it for some unknown reason cripples the tethering port. Is this fixed now?
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    Re: Sony updates the remote app for tablets and mobiles

    The app on the camera hasn't been updated as you can read from Anna's screen grab. We know what you know.

    The addition of bulb is a big plus though. When I shoot low light it is a real pain that you can';t stay on the app without changing iso. I do like to stay at base ISO. I just checked to see if the bug is gone where it doesn't actually process a full size image for review on the iPad. The option to review/save the image at full size isn't even there, FFS. What is the point in having a large screen to check your images when you can't even check them at full size. Absolutly idiotic!

    Quote Originally Posted by rupho View Post
    Remote app is great but got one big problem : once activated in camera it for some unknown reason cripples the tethering port. Is this fixed now?

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    Re: Sony updates the remote app for tablets and mobiles

    Smart Remote Control 4.0 is available now.
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    My frustration with this is the difficulty in getting it installed and running. Either I'm a lot dumber than I thought or its not intuitive.
    An additional frustration is the play memory software app on my phone seems to think I want to share pictures and other stuff I have no interest in.

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    Mmm, why they call it smart ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmward View Post
    My frustration with this is the difficulty in getting it installed and running. Either I'm a lot dumber than I thought or its not intuitive.
    An additional frustration is the play memory software app on my phone seems to think I want to share pictures and other stuff I have no interest in.
    I have found that I can only install apps directly using the camera and connecting to my network.
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    I'm stuck too.

    My ipad updated from iTunes update, but when I log on to the Sony site to update my camera it's showing release 3.6 as being the latest. As a result, my iPad is asking for a QR code and my camera is still showing a SSIS number.

    Thanks Sony. Duh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viramati View Post
    I have found that I can only install apps directly using the camera and connecting to my network.
    Agreed. From experience it's the only way that worked for me too. It's quite simple to do on the camera.

    Really bummed that the option to review full size images on the iPad is now gone. So stupid. Ok. Maybe turn it off in continuous mode but why not have it on single image mode. It is a fill size jpg not a raw or tif file! iPad airs can download at very high speeds and besides it worked on a camera that had just 6 less megapixels up to a few updates ago.


    Also why still no bracketing mode on the app.

    The bulb is a great addition but currently one needs to exit the app to check critical focus and that just dramatically affects workflow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyPtak View Post
    I'm stuck too.

    My ipad updated from iTunes update, but when I log on to the Sony site to update my camera it's showing release 3.6 as being the latest. As a result, my iPad is asking for a QR code and my camera is still showing a SSIS number.

    Thanks Sony. Duh.
    Strange as I have updated my A7rII and A7s to v.4 with no problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viramati View Post
    Strange as I have updated my A7rII and A7s to v.4 with no problem
    Finally got V4 page. Not sure how I ended up on the other one. Ah well.

    Next issue - my camera now displays a QR code but when I bring the camera within proximity to the rectangle shown on the iPad, my camera screen goes dark - move it away and the QR code display returns.

    Not my day!

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    Re: Sony updates the remote app for tablets and mobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by Viramati View Post
    Strange as I have updated my A7rII and A7s to v.4 with no problem
    I made the update yesterday. First I went to Sony.ch (my country) and only 3.6 was listed. Then I picked another link, the one I gave above, to Sony apps .net or something like that and from there I could download the app. 4th version.

    May be that this has something to do with language ? On Sony.ch they offer French or German, but no English. Anyway : the version installed talks me in French. Which I dislike because all the forums I visit are speaking English and having the English versions of everything makes exchanges easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyPtak View Post
    Finally got V4 page. Not sure how I ended up on the other one. Ah well.

    Next issue - my camera now displays a QR code but when I bring the camera within proximity to the rectangle shown on the iPad, my camera screen goes dark - move it away and the QR code display returns.

    Not my day!
    Look at the bottom of the screen showing the QR code : it says that if you push the delete button you can get a password that you can then type in the WIFI adjustment section of your iPad. The way it was done before.

    I had already linked my body to the iPad, and it was connected. But nevertheless, the QR code appeared. And seems to have reinitialized the connection. Once I had photographed it, it wanted to install something and opened a page in my browser. And I had to click some OK during the installation process. I found that trickier than the old way. But now it is memorized. When I want to link the iPad to the body, I first set the wifi to on on the body. Then I go to the WIFI settings panel of the iPad where the body appears in the list if available networks and choose it. Then I launch the remote app. And voilą.

    Concerning the display blackening before you can take the picture of the QR code, it happened to me too : it is just the display going into sleeping mode. Half press shutter and it should go.. or temporarily set a longer time before sleeping strikes in. Other possible issue : your phone was too near of the VF autoswitch sensor, so the output went to the VF and then back when you draw the phone back.

    The scripting isn't very strong : it is only a WPA key, not the now usual WEP key. May be they thought it sufficient because the body and pad/phone needs to be quite near of one another and won't be up for days like a home network.

    One can choose whether to get a full sized or a 2MB picture for reviewing. What I miss is a magnifyier for MF when you are in shooting mode. And you can choose whether the pictures you take are stored on the iPad or not and at 2MB or at the original size. You have to do that on the pad/phone tapping the display you will see the word "settings" appear in the top right. Alas there isn't much things to adjust. I had the impression that when I chose the original size for reviewing lus the high IQ, the IQ of the live view increased as well.. But may be it was just a false impression.
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    After dealing with some frustration, I finally managed to get the update and app installed. Works OK, but I probably won't use it very much. Discovered the option to GPS tag images which is a nice feature. App completely overrides camera settings and seems to control the camera via this Sony profile that is installed. Too bad that there are only very limited options for adjusting settings. I really need to be able to shoot raw+jpg as I have limited use for the small jpegs that are saved.
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    Re: Sony updates the remote app for tablets and mobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by scho View Post
    After dealing with some frustration, I finally managed to get the update and app installed. Works OK, but I probably won't use it very much. Discovered the option to GPS tag images which is a nice feature. App completely overrides camera settings and seems to control the camera via this Sony profile that is installed. Too bad that there are only very limited options for adjusting settings. I really need to be able to shoot raw+jpg as I have limited use for the small jpegs that are saved.
    Yes, the app takes full control of the body. Nevertheless you can still manage to get a raw pictures while using the remote app.

    For that while still in the remote app press the menu key on the body. There you have the possibility to choose different things that only apply when using the remote app : you can choose the size of the picture and the IQ. For IQ you can choose raw+JPEG. There are six tabs for the remote app. I'm still exploring what they do. Important to know : what you have set for regular use doesn't apply here and the default is JPEG only Large Fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Annna T View Post
    Yes, the app takes full control of the body. Nevertheless you can still manage to get a raw pictures while using the remote app.

    For that while still in the remote app press the menu key on the body. There you have the possibility to choose different things that only apply when using the remote app : you can choose the size of the picture and the IQ. For IQ you can choose raw+JPEG. There are six tabs for the remote app. I'm still exploring what they do. Important to know : what you have set for regular use doesn't apply here and the default is JPEG only Large Fine.
    Thank you Anna. Much better with some menu access. Can now shoot raw+jpg and also get access to focus magnification when using MF lens. I will have to try this for some remote bird photography with my 600mm lens.
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    Another use for the remote app is shooting several images at different focus points for a composite image with wide DOF. I set up the A7RII with 150-600 Tamron on a tripod and put it into remote app mode set for flexible spot focus (small) and then used touch focus on the iPad to quickly fire several shots at different distances in the scene simply by touching the iPad screen image at desired locations. Eight shots were composited in Helicon Focus to create the final image.

    a close focus image



    a far focus image



    the composite of 8 images

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annna T View Post
    Look at the bottom of the screen showing the QR code : it says that if you push the delete button you can get a password that you can then type in the WIFI adjustment section of your iPad. The way it was done before.

    One can choose whether to get a full sized or a 2MB picture for reviewing. What I miss is a magnifyier for MF when you are in shooting mode. And you can choose whether the pictures you take are stored on the iPad or not and at 2MB or at the original size. You have to do that on the pad/phone tapping the display you will see the word "settings" appear in the top right. Alas there isn't much things to adjust. I had the impression that when I chose the original size for reviewing lus the high IQ, the IQ of the live view increased as well.. But may be it was just a false impression.
    The issue I had of "original" not even appearing as an option has for some reason ceased! I went into settings prior to connecting the wifi. Under "Copy image Size" Original was there as an option and already selected. Than when I connected the camera via wifi and went to "size of review image" Original was now also visible. This was not visible since the previous release. Strange.

    However a bug that appeared a few releases ago is back. Namely the full size review image in the app is not really a full size image. It looks fine viewed at full screen on my ipad retina but if I zoom in beyond full screen the image lacks any detail. (i.e. actually a 2mge version) If I have image copy turned on and to original size, than get out of the app and view the image in the Photos app the image is in full size and has detail when viewed in. This means you have to ensure "Save Options" is turned on. Than at least you can get out of the app to check fine focus. This wa snot the case a few releases ago. Looks like an ongoing bug issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scho View Post
    Another use for the remote app is shooting several images at different focus points for a composite image with wide DOF. I set up the A7RII with 150-600 Tamron on a tripod and put it into remote app mode set for flexible spot focus (small) and then used touch focus on the iPad to quickly fire several shots at different distances in the scene simply by touching the iPad screen image at desired locations. Eight shots were composited in Helicon Focus to create the final image.

    a close focus image



    a far focus image



    the composite of 8 images

    Thanks Carl! I've been using your technique in the studio for a few months now and it works great. I just sent a request to Sony, via Pro support to the user to select enable multiple points on the image and then have the camera shoot and focus of those points automatically. I also contacted helicon remote and asked them why they are supporting the Sony camera, they replied that Sony doesn't support manual focus for them to use with their like Nikon and Canon does. I also requested this to be added by Sony so that helicon remote could be used to do focus stacking. Pro support is a really good portal for making suggestions to Sony.
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    Re: Sony updates the remote app for tablets and mobiles

    When you are shooting via a mobile device, how do you get the Live View to show Portrait shots. The Live View shows every shot as a Landscape. Rotating the mobile device triggers the Auto-Rotate function on the device and thus you can not compose a vertical shot. I have turned off the cameras Auto-Rotate and it had no effect. Is there a way to disable the mobile devices Auto-Rotate. Using a Samsung S4 and Nexus 7 Android.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimbrunstudio View Post
    When you are shooting via a mobile device, how do you get the Live View to show Portrait shots. The Live View shows every shot as a Landscape. Rotating the mobile device triggers the Auto-Rotate function on the device and thus you can not compose a vertical shot. I have turned off the cameras Auto-Rotate and it had no effect. Is there a way to disable the mobile devices Auto-Rotate. Using a Samsung S4 and Nexus 7 Android.

    I am pretty sure I saw a way to disable the auto rotate on my Samsung Note 3 and 4. Probably under settings, then display.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DennisHHH View Post
    Thanks Carl! I've been using your technique in the studio for a few months now and it works great. I just sent a request to Sony, via Pro support to the user to select enable multiple points on the image and then have the camera shoot and focus of those points automatically. I also contacted helicon remote and asked them why they are supporting the Sony camera, they replied that Sony doesn't support manual focus for them to use with their like Nikon and Canon does. I also requested this to be added by Sony so that helicon remote could be used to do focus stacking. Pro support is a really good portal for making suggestions to Sony.
    Thanks Dennis, I hope that Sony incorporates your suggestions. The multiple focus point automation would be really nice. Here is an impromptu kitchen still life using the remote app and iPad to do an 8 shot focus stack using the A7RII and FE 24-70. I forgot to reset ISO from auto so ended up at 6400.

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    Is there a way to use this app to a tablet to just view the scene and not take control of the camera? I would like to use it for framing but then taek a series bracketed shots through the camera. Is this possible?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chkproductions View Post
    Is there a way to use this app to a tablet to just view the scene and not take control of the camera? I would like to use it for framing but then taek a series bracketed shots through the camera. Is this possible?

    Thanks in advance.

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    My version of the remote app does not have any bracket shooting modes available. You would have to startup the remote app, do your framing and composition on the iPad, exit the app, and then do your bracketed shooting using the camera settings. Another good suggestion for Sony to include bracket mode settings in the remote app.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scho View Post
    My version of the remote app does not have any bracket shooting modes available. You would have to startup the remote app, do your framing and composition on the iPad, exit the app, and then do your bracketed shooting using the camera settings. Another good suggestion for Sony to include bracket mode settings in the remote app.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scho View Post
    My version of the remote app does not have any bracket shooting modes available. You would have to startup the remote app, do your framing and composition on the iPad, exit the app, and then do your bracketed shooting using the camera settings. Another good suggestion for Sony to include bracket mode settings in the remote app.
    Thanks. That's exactly what I figured you'd have to do. So for my purposes, I would like to see a View Only on Device option for this app. Then I could use all the controls the camera has to offer without being limited by the app.

    Cheers

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    Seems the website to install camera apps isn't compatible with El Capitan for those on Macs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Fox View Post
    Seems the website to install camera apps isn't compatible with El Capitan for those on Macs.
    If you have a wifi connection somewhere (home network or similar), you can set up a direct link between the camera and the Sony apps website. You probably have to get a user id separately before connecting. Other solution would be to find someone around you having a compatible computer. (I didn't test that because I could use my PC)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annna T View Post
    If you have a wifi connection somewhere (home network or similar), you can set up a direct link between the camera and the Sony apps website. You probably have to get a user id separately before connecting. Other solution would be to find someone around you having a compatible computer. (I didn't test that because I could use my PC)
    For me the simplest solution was booting up with Yosemite using a backup volume. I tend to keep one of those for quite a while after a new OS is released. After I installed the app I discovered the camera could connect directly to the network to install the apps. I had trouble scrolling the screen on the camera to see the various apps though. Not sure what was going on.

    Speaking of apps, I noticed one called Bracket Pro. Anyone tried that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Fox View Post
    For me the simplest solution was booting up with Yosemite using a backup volume. I tend to keep one of those for quite a while after a new OS is released. After I installed the app I discovered the camera could connect directly to the network to install the apps. I had trouble scrolling the screen on the camera to see the various apps though. Not sure what was going on.

    Speaking of apps, I noticed one called Bracket Pro. Anyone tried that?
    Personnally I didn't : I thought the drive bracket mode on the camera was enough. However, thinking to it : may be this would allow you to use both the remote app for live view and operate the camera from the remote. There is at least one case I know where two apps are working together : the time lapse app and another one allowing you to zoom and move the frame around while shooting the timelapse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalSteve View Post
    I am pretty sure I saw a way to disable the auto rotate on my Samsung Note 3 and 4. Probably under settings, then display.
    Disabling the phone/tablet Auto-Rotate does provide a work around. At least I can compose a vertical shot by rotating the phone/tablet to horizontal without having the image rotate. The Live View is smaller than the a horizontal shot but it works.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Fox View Post
    For me the simplest solution was booting up with Yosemite using a backup volume. I tend to keep one of those for quite a while after a new OS is released. After I installed the app I discovered the camera could connect directly to the network to install the apps. I had trouble scrolling the screen on the camera to see the various apps though. Not sure what was going on.

    Speaking of apps, I noticed one called Bracket Pro. Anyone tried that?
    I don't think it's nearly as complete as the integrated bracketing. However, it does have some focus bracketing. Only three images though.

    What's I'd love - a focus bracketing app that allows total user control. You set your near and far points and the number of images in between. Think of the time saved for those 30 shot macro focus stacks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dandrewk View Post
    I don't think it's nearly as complete as the integrated bracketing. However, it does have some focus bracketing. Only three images though.

    What's I'd love - a focus bracketing app that allows total user control. You set your near and far points and the number of images in between. Think of the time saved for those 30 shot macro focus stacks!
    For that you need an Olympus OMD-EM1 or EM5II.. There is a thread about this new firmware update in the MFT forum.
    and here the Olympus announcement : http://www.olympus-global.com/en/new...150915omde.jsp

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