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    Mmmm.. That 21mm Loxia looks good

    There is already a short review with lots of pictures and, well I know, one can't trust everything written on the net, but that 21mm Loxia looks good.

    #423. Zeiss Loxia 21 ? Two brief reviews of a brilliant new ultra-wide | DearSusan

    The lack of AF could be a problem with my bad eyes.. But who needs AF with a 21mm ? when f8 and zone focusing can do the trick..
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    Re: Mmmm.. That 21mm Loxia looks good

    It's smack damn in the middle between my 15 and 25 and I am first on the list at one of my dealers but I'm still torn. It's a little close to my Batis 25 which is one of those in my cold hands lenses. I think I would rather have a 18mm since that just gaps better between 15 and 25 but obviously only rumors of a 18mm. In debate still but I would love Loxia lenses wider than my 25 super wides I want manual focus glass. These are more personal choices over business choices for me.
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    Re: Mmmm.. That 21mm Loxia looks good

    Oh great. Can't at least one of these new Zeiss lenses be a stinker, so I don't have to 'need' them all?
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    Re: Mmmm.. That 21mm Loxia looks good

    That's the part that kills ya is you know it's going to be a winner. I need 1500 falling from the sky day. Lol
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    Re: Mmmm.. That 21mm Loxia looks good

    Here one way to convince yourself. Think small and light . This kit makes you smile. VC 15, Loxia 21, even the Sony 28, Sony 35 2.8, Sony 55 mm . That's just a small kit right there. Even throwing the Batis 85 in there won't break your back
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    Re: Mmmm.. That 21mm Loxia looks good

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    It's smack damn in the middle between my 15 and 25 ....
    It seems like a "must have" for the stock bodies, but either the 25 should have been a 28, or the 21 should have been a 18!

    Actually both. 18 and 28 is really nice.

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    Re: Mmmm.. That 21mm Loxia looks good

    Quote Originally Posted by uhoh7 View Post
    It seems like a "must have" for the stock bodies, but either the 25 should have been a 28, or the 21 should have been a 18!

    Actually both. 18 and 28 is really nice.
    Well I hate 28's so I'm happy for the 25 and 21 decisions personally.
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    Re: Mmmm.. That 21mm Loxia looks good

    The most interesting thing in that link is the free offer to train people in lens reviews,
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    Re: Mmmm.. That 21mm Loxia looks good

    Thanks for posting this, Annna. It certainly diminishes my desire for that bulky 16-35 zoom! The 21 would pair nicely with the Voigtlander/Cosina 15, as well.

    Speaking of the e-mount 15mm, does anyone know if the hood/petals will be removable this time? My machinist skills aren't what they used to be! Are you listening, Cosina?
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    Re: Mmmm.. That 21mm Loxia looks good

    I am thinking that the 21 Loxia is my next lens. Getting a native wide to use with my A7rII so as to do away with adapters is very appealing. I have the Zeiss 15 2.8 and the Canon 24TSE but both are enormous on A7rII with adapters. Just have to find one now.
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    Re: Mmmm.. That 21mm Loxia looks good

    I just saw that review and it looks great! I have the Sony 16-35 but am considering selling it and get either the VC 15 f4.5 or this Loxia 21, or both? Fact is the zoom is more versatile...
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    Re: Mmmm.. That 21mm Loxia looks good

    Just ordered one But I'm in for a long wait - mid February
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    photographer's "Crack"= Zeiss badging on anything

    Those German's (with the help of Sony sensor's) figured all of us out quick.... And we were blaming the Middle East for all the addicts in the USA


    Then Zeiss limits the supply so we chase leads all over the world to get ahold of them..... I'll admit it I am a addict!!! Where's our 12 step program??
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    Re: Mmmm.. That 21mm Loxia looks good

    I am first on the list at my local shop. There were 7 people ahead of me but I traded in a couple of lenses that I wasn't using and thereby have prepaid, now I am first. Have been told Mid-January ETA.
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    Re: Mmmm.. That 21mm Loxia looks good

    I wonder how this compared to the original 21mm distagon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    It's smack damn in the middle between my 15 and 25 and I am first on the list at one of my dealers but I'm still torn. It's a little close to my Batis 25 which is one of those in my cold hands lenses. I think I would rather have a 18mm since that just gaps better between 15 and 25 but obviously only rumors of a 18mm. In debate still but I would love Loxia lenses wider than my 25 super wides I want manual focus glass. These are more personal choices over business choices for me.
    The 21 fills a gap but between the 21 and the 25 Im inclined to take the 21 and just crop as needed it also gives me a bit of cropping headroom when transforming an image for vertical corrections (since neither is a T&S lens). The old 21 is a beautiful lens so if the new is similar or even better it is a solid buy.

    My 14mm L II Canon is fantastic but I use it very little for landscape since I can't conveniently filter it. The Zeiss 15 (sans hood) is tempting though.

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    Re: Mmmm.. That 21mm Loxia looks good

    can anyone provide raw images to compare the loxia 21mm vs. the batis 25mm?

    i want one of those as next for sure but i am also torn. people seem to say that the loxia is tad bit sharper across the frame, that would be a big WOW considering the size.

    cheers

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    Re: Mmmm.. That 21mm Loxia looks good

    Quote Originally Posted by drevil View Post
    can anyone provide raw images to compare the loxia 21mm vs. the batis 25mm?

    i want one of those as next for sure but i am also torn. people seem to say that the loxia is tad bit sharper across the frame, that would be a big WOW considering the size.

    cheers
    Those lenses are hardly available :
    The 21mm is announced for the beginning of next year (whatever that is) and only a few selected people have got one for testing purpose.

    The 25mm has begun to ship, but is difficult to find in stock.

    So it will be a while before someone has both in hands.

    Here is a nice review of the 21mm Loxia : #423. Zeiss Loxia 21 ? Two brief reviews of a brilliant new ultra-wide | DearSusan
    BTW : the link is already in the first post of this thread.

    PS : I just made a Google search with the words Batis 25mm compare Loxia 21mm and that only brought me to forum threads speculations, no real comparisons, which doesn't surprise given the above.
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    Re: Mmmm.. That 21mm Loxia looks good

    Just picked mine up so more later.

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    Re: Mmmm.. That 21mm Loxia looks good

    Quote Originally Posted by Viramati View Post
    Just picked mine up so more later.
    That's great news David
    I was told earlier today that my one has arrived at my dealer...so likewise more later
    Cheers Barry

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    Here are some images taken on my way to catch the bus home on a beautiful London afternoon!! A few tweaks in Lr6 but nothing drastic
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    Exciting! Looking forward to fuller reports when you guys have time!

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    Re: Mmmm.. That 21mm Loxia looks good

    So first thoughts are
    1. The lens is surprisingly small
    2. I would like to have a bit more focus-throw at the 2m to infinity end of the scale as it this would have made zone focussing a little easier
    3. Bokeh wide open seems very smooth
    4. IQ and build quality seem to be superb

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    Thanks for the shots. Where did you get yours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrp View Post
    Thanks for the shots. Where did you get yours?
    My longtime dealer (LCE in the Strand) for anything apart from Leica. I was first to order and they only got one in and they have no idea when more will arrive
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    Re: Mmmm.. That 21mm Loxia looks good

    Why is it when we get a new toy it's crappy weather out. Lol

    Keep them coming folks. I'll even let you post cat pictures. Oh my are we desperate now. Lol
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    Re: Mmmm.. That 21mm Loxia looks good

    got mine on saturday in HK, went there for the weekend and was hoping to find a dealer who has it, wasnt to assured though.

    third dealer i went to had 2, got three the day before. it was a no brainer and i am a happy bugger ever since.
    the lens feels awesome, build quality is great and i cant confirm a problem with the hood someone mentioned. saying that its coming off easily and unwanted.

    IQ, sharp sharp sharp and the bokeh wide open and closest focus distance is also good.
    i think it was the right decision to take it over the batis 25.
    i will get the batis 85mm for portraits later though.

    happy happy joy joy
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    Quote Originally Posted by drevil View Post
    got mine on saturday in HK, went there for the weekend and was hoping to find a dealer who has it, wasnt to assured though.

    third dealer i went to had 2, got three the day before. it was a no brainer and i am a happy bugger ever since.
    the lens feels awesome, build quality is great and i cant confirm a problem with the hood someone mentioned. saying that its coming off easily and unwanted.

    IQ, sharp sharp sharp and the bokeh wide open and closest focus distance is also good.
    i think it was the right decision to take it over the batis 25.
    i will get the batis 85mm for portraits later though.

    happy happy joy joy
    My hood is fine when mounted for shooting it is just when it reversed in the storage position that it doesn't click into place

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    Re: Mmmm.. That 21mm Loxia looks good

    Quote Originally Posted by Viramati View Post
    My hood is fine when mounted for shooting it is just when it reversed in the storage position that it doesn't click into place
    mine is fine

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    Is 15mm and 25mm too large of a gap

    In the real world---
    if you have the CV 15mm and the BATIS 25mm--- do you really need the 21mm in the bag? One can always crop a bit?


    Quote Originally Posted by drevil View Post
    mine is fine

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    Re: Mmmm.. That 21mm Loxia looks good

    Cropping with a A7rII is never i a problem i would say

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    Re: Is 15mm and 25mm too large of a gap

    Quote Originally Posted by mark1958 View Post
    In the real world---
    if you have the CV 15mm and the BATIS 25mm--- do you really need the 21mm in the bag? One can always crop a bit?
    Exactly my situation, I'm still undecided
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    Re: Mmmm.. That 21mm Loxia looks good

    I am trying to justify why not to buy!!.. Some more support please

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    Re: Mmmm.. That 21mm Loxia looks good

    After several weeks looking for a good reason not to buy it, I found only two: the price and no AF.

    Jumped over the fence and ordered one.
    Thank you all for cutting a hole into my wallet!

    Edit: I should get it at the end of February...
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