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    A7R II Charger

    Sorry if this has been asked before but my A7R II arrived today however, my Metabones adapter does not arrive until tomorrow so only been able to update the firmware and charge the batteries. What has come to light after charging my three batteries is how unbelievably slow they charge. Obviously no experience yet but hearing the batteries not lasting very long and the horribly slow charge times I need a better charger? The hähnel ProCube looks like a good solution but any recommendations?

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    Re: A7R II Charger

    This is larger but more universal, and there's no external power brick:
    http://www.poweredbywatson.com/detail?sku=837349
    Not particularly fast, but very handy.
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    Thanks for the suggestion and I'd looked at these but the 6 hrs charge time puts me off and was hoping for around 1-2 hrs max.

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    Re: A7R II Charger

    I'd also recommend the Watson charger that "4season" provided the link to. I use that one and the Sony BC-TRW. Charging time is highly dependent upon how depleted the batteries are when you put them in a charger.

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    Re: A7R II Charger

    Quote Originally Posted by gazwas View Post
    Sorry if this has been asked before but my A7R II arrived today however, my Metabones adapter does not arrive until tomorrow so only been able to update the firmware and charge the batteries. What has come to light after charging my three batteries is how unbelievably slow they charge. Obviously no experience yet but hearing the batteries not lasting very long and the horribly slow charge times I need a better charger? The hähnel ProCube looks like a good solution but any recommendations?
    If I remember correctly, the first time you charge the batteries, it will take longer than the usual charges. So don't despair !

    The A7r2 and A7r batteries and charger are slightly different. The new charger I got with the A7r2 seems faster than the older one with the A7r batteries. What I don't like is that the batteries don't click when you push them in. Sometimes they weren't fully pushed and I found out they weren't charging as expected.
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    Re: A7R II Charger

    Unless they're specifically designed for it, I probably wouldn't attempt to quick-charge lithium batteries due to the risk of fire. 1-2 hour charge times from fully-depleted? Not going to happen with the NP-FW50 batteries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4season View Post
    Unless they're specifically designed for it, I probably wouldn't attempt to quick-charge lithium batteries due to the risk of fire. 1-2 hour charge times from fully-depleted? Not going to happen with the NP-FW50 batteries.
    The Sony BC-VW1 Battery Charger is designed to charge W batteries in 1-2 hours so that is what made me look for others. The ProCube looked interesting as it could charge two batteries simutanioualy and did use one of their chargers for years with Phaae One batteries without issue.

    Hahnel ProCube Twin Charger - Sony/Olympus (1000 561.0) - Wex Photographic

    Does anyone use the ProCube or shall I just go for the Sony quick charger - both seem to be well regarded in the small number of reviews I've seen?

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    Re: A7R II Charger

    Quote Originally Posted by gazwas View Post
    The Sony BC-VW1 Battery Charger is designed to charge W batteries in 1-2 hours so that is what made me look for others.
    You must be new to Sony and A7 series?

    Since NEX-5, it is the same battery and they used to include the BC-VW1 with their cameras, earlier. It was never designed charge anything within 1-2 hrs. Definitely not the first few cycles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    You must be new to Sony and A7 series?
    Yes, about 19 hours of ownership!

    Got my numbers wrong on the charger model, it should have been the Sony BC-QM1 which is a quick charger.

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    Re: A7R II Charger

    Quote Originally Posted by gazwas View Post
    The Sony BC-VW1 Battery Charger is designed to charge W batteries in 1-2 hours so that is what made me look for others. The ProCube looked interesting as it could charge two batteries simutanioualy and did use one of their chargers for years with Phaae One batteries without issue.

    Hahnel ProCube Twin Charger - Sony/Olympus (1000 561.0) - Wex Photographic

    Does anyone use the ProCube or shall I just go for the Sony quick charger - both seem to be well regarded in the small number of reviews I've seen?
    I have two battery chargers :
    • I got the BC-TRW for the A7r because there was none included
    • The A7r2 came with the BC-VW1 included.


    I was pleasantly surprised by the second one : it charges the batteries that came with the A7r2 faster than what I have got for the A7r.

    My take on this : wait a little and when you have loaded the battery a few times things will get faster. After a few cycles you will know whether you still want another speedier charger.
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    Re: A7R II Charger

    I've changed my charging strategy to "USB only" and i'm very happy about it:

    One Power brick with 10 USB outputs and a bunch of good micro USB cables (0.2 - 1m) to charge my A7RII, a6000, a charger for two NP-FW50 batteries by Patona, smartphones, tablet, headlamp, powerbank and my girlfriend's RX100.
    One 2port-USB power brick as a backup in case of failure and one 2port 12V adapter in the car.

    It's universal, it's compact... i don't have to charge one battery in no time, i rather have four batteries and a powerbank charged overnight.
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    Re: A7R II Charger

    Quote Originally Posted by Annna T View Post
    I have two battery chargers :
    • I got the BC-TRW for the A7r because there was none included
    • The A7r2 came with the BC-VW1 included.


    I was pleasantly surprised by the second one : it charges the batteries that came with the A7r2 faster than what I have got for the A7r.

    My take on this : wait a little and when you have loaded the battery a few times things will get faster. After a few cycles you will know whether you still want another speedier charger.
    Good idea!

    Best to check its not just the first few charges that are slow. It was just a shock coming from my 1Ds3 to see that tiny battery still charging after 3½ hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICHBINSpunktDE View Post
    I've changed my charging strategy to "USB only" and i'm very happy about it:

    One Power brick with 10 USB outputs and a bunch of good micro USB cables (0.2 - 1m) to charge my A7RII, a6000, a charger for two NP-FW50 batteries by Patona, smartphones, tablet, headlamp, powerbank and my girlfriend's RX100.
    One 2port-USB power brick as a backup in case of failure and one 2port 12V adapter in the car.

    It's universal, it's compact... i don't have to charge one battery in no time, i rather have four batteries and a powerbank charged overnight.
    Thats some serious charging!

    USB charging is normally slow in my experience so how long does the A7R take to charge from low/flat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazwas View Post
    Thats some serious charging!

    USB charging is normally slow in my experience so how long does the A7R take to charge from low/flat?
    Can't tell about the A7R... but on the A7RII, in camera USB charging is very slow if you use the power brick provided by Sony. Using a decent power brick, things are speeding up considerably... but I've never taken the time, to be honest.

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    Re: A7R II Charger

    I've got the BC-QM1 charger which is big but can charge two batteries at one time (one in the charger and the other through USB). It also charges other batteries, notably my camcorder ones. It is fast enough (not timed it though) for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pradeep View Post
    I've got the BC-QM1 charger which is big but can charge two batteries at one time (one in the charger and the other through USB). It also charges other batteries, notably my camcorder ones. It is fast enough (not timed it though) for me.
    I had read it charged two batteries but couldn't figure out how looking at pictures of the charger. How does the battery attach to a USB cable? Is some special connector included with this charger?

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    Re: A7R II Charger

    Quote Originally Posted by gazwas View Post
    I had read it charged two batteries but couldn't figure out how looking at pictures of the charger. How does the battery attach to a USB cable? Is some special connector included with this charger?
    RTM or the earlier posts.

    Your camera can charge a battery via USB.

    Go to ebay, look for NP-fw50 charger, look for the lowest (incl.ship). You will find quite a few for < US $5. Buy a few. Problem solved.
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    Re: A7R II Charger

    If you examine your A7RIIs box closely... Sony packed a camera in it - it's the special connector to charge your battery via USB. In case of the BCQM1, only if you don't quick charge the battery. See why i went the USB way? Too many ifs and maybes on Sonys way for my personal taste.

    Quote Originally Posted by gazwas View Post
    How does the battery attach to a USB cable? Is some special connector included with this charger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICHBINSpunktDE View Post
    If you examine your A7RIIs box closely... Sony packed a camera in it - it's the special connector to charge your battery via USB. In case of the BCQM1, only if you don't quick charge the battery. See why i went the USB way? Too many ifs and maybes on Sonys way for my personal taste.
    So the Sony BC-QM1is in fact not a dual charger but a single charger with a USB charging output option.

    The ProCube still looks the best option for a busy shooting day as I just don't trust the cheap chargers on ebay, however I will give the supplied charger a couple of tries just to see if its a fluke first charge. The Metabones adapter has just arrived so I'll be able to give the batteries a good pounding over the next few days while getting used to the new camera.

    Thanks everyone.....

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    Re: A7R II Charger

    The Watson charger mentioned by 4season (http://www.poweredbywatson.com/detail?sku=837349) is a dual battery charger. It is very well made. I have been using mine for a couple of years now and I couldn't be happier with it. It does not take 6 hours to charge a flat battery, more like 2.

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    Re: A7R II Charger

    Quote Originally Posted by gazwas View Post
    So the Sony BC-QM1is in fact not a dual charger but a single charger with a USB charging output option.

    The ProCube still looks the best option for a busy shooting day as I just don't trust the cheap chargers on ebay, however I will give the supplied charger a couple of tries just to see if its a fluke first charge. The Metabones adapter has just arrived so I'll be able to give the batteries a good pounding over the next few days while getting used to the new camera.

    Thanks everyone.....
    Actually the BC-QM1 does charge one battery placed in it and also provides power to the USB port so you can plug your camera into it and charge the second battery inside the camera. It does take a while but if you need to charge two batteries together without having to swap the first one out (say when you are going to sleep at night), it does a good job.

    For me the other advantage was that it charges my Sony handycam battery too.

    I've used cheap third party chargers before and my own experience has not been good - they failed at critical times. When you own a camera system costing thousands, it is worth spending some money on these essentials. For this reason I will never used third party batteries even though I admit OEM prices are sometimes ridiculous. Of course some have found them to be great and more power to them.
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