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    Re: Sony's new camera A9

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    I have a feeling that the price will drop quite a lot within a year. Although the Nikon and Canon "equivalents" are 6K, they are totally different beasts with a huge amount of lenses out in the market. Sony may have to buy their way into this. I do assume though that they have quite healthy margins on the A9. They can probably afford to sell it cheaper if they have to.
    I'd tend to agree with this. One other thing Sony faces is the "Hammer Nails" reputation of the Canikon pro beasts.

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    Re: Sony's new camera A9

    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    If the price drops like with the A7R2 it should be 50% cheaper in some 18 months
    In USA the A7RII price has dropped about $500 in 2 years so not really 50%. Not even the A7 is at 50% yet 4 years later.
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    Re: Sony's new camera A9

    Quote Originally Posted by iiiNelson View Post
    In USA the A7RII price has dropped about $500 in 2 years so not really 50%. Not even the A7 is at 50% yet 4 years later.
    It was a price drop of the A7R2 with about +40% in Europe.

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    Re: Sony's new camera A9

    Quote Originally Posted by iiiNelson View Post
    In USA the A7RII price has dropped about $500 in 2 years so not really 50%. Not even the A7 is at 50% yet 4 years later.
    So if we assume the A9 drops $1000 in 2 years from US$4500 to US$3500 that would amount to an average loss of US$42 per month. Hmm, quelle horreur!
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    Re: Sony's new camera A9

    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    It was a price drop of the A7R2 with about +40% in Europe.
    So the A7RII is going for ~1920 euros now?
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    Re: Sony's new camera A9

    Quote Originally Posted by iiiNelson View Post
    So the A7RII is going for ~1920 euros now?
    No, but have seen offers for around € 2200.- see links below ....

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    https://www.eglobalcentral.at/sony-a...ITlxoCjZnw_wcB

    And even at Amazon.de you can get it meanwhile fr €2549.-

    https://www.amazon.de/Sony-ILCE7RM2B-CEC/dp/B010THXVNQ

    So hey, Sony A9 now €4500.- in maybe 18 months €2700.- ??? There is hope, although I would prefer that prices stay a bit more stable.

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    Re: Sony's new camera A9

    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    No, but have seen offers for around 2200.- see links below ....

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    And even at Amazon.de you can get it meanwhile fr 2549.-

    https://www.amazon.de/Sony-ILCE7RM2B-CEC/dp/B010THXVNQ

    So hey, Sony A9 now 4500.- in maybe 18 months 2700.- ??? There is hope, although I would prefer that prices stay a bit more stable.
    Maybe the laws are different in EU but stateside gray market gets you no warranty or official support so I don't really consider that a viable option for myself. Your level of acceptable risk for expensive electronics may be different than mine and yes the ~2600 euros pricing through Amazon is about in line with stateside pricing with warranty (~$2700 USD) but again this is pricing after nearly 2 years so I'd say that pricing is fairly stable. For comparison you can often get gray market 1DxII's for ~$4500-5000 in the USA but I don't personally consider that a viable option either even if the camera is "bulletproof."
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    Re: Sony's new camera A9

    Lowest i have seen was from e infinity on ebay. They offered (just briefly) it for 1850 shipped.

    Now it is ~2050. They make a profit on this.

    This gives an indication of the prices in Asia.

    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    It was a price drop of the A7R2 with about +40% in Europe.

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    Re: Sony's new camera A9

    I don't give too much on DXOMark tests but this one at least shows that the A9 is outperforming the Nikon D5 and the Canon 1DX2 - that are the real competitors obviously.

    https://www.slrlounge.com/dxomark-so...its-important/

    Great job SONY

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    Is this a good price for an A9 body or what: 3,796.19 (eGlobal Central)
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    Re: Sony's new camera A9

    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    Is this a good price for an A9 body or what: 3,796.19 (eGlobal Central)
    3,299 would be even better and that would be exactly 2,000 less than the list prices here!

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    Re: Sony's new camera A9

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    Just being announced! EXMOR RS (Stacked CMOS) 24MP!!

    Together with a 100-400 G zoom.
    let's get some pics up. I live in Rochester, New York where we have had major rain this year. This past weekend, we went to Charlotte, the northern part of the City and the pier is almost submerged; the water is about 2-3 feet above its usual spot. Yikes!

    Taken with a Sony a9

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    Re: Sony's new camera A9

    Just got back from a long trip to Namibia. Had taken two A9 bodies along with my A7R2 and Rx1R2 - told you I suffer from GAS

    Here is my summary that I just posted on another forum:

    I took with me the Sony 70-200 2.8GM and the Canon 100-400 L MkII. Both mounted on separate A9 bodies, the latter via the Metabones V adapter with latest firmware.

    The Sony lens has an amazing look especially in soft light. It is a tad soft at 2.8 (perfectly acceptable though). I find the images from this more interesting than I remember from my Canon version in the past. The AF is superb, esp for BIF and frantic action. I love the high frame rate of the camera as it allows capture of a single frame where two birds are fighting for the same piece of fish in the churning waves.

    The down side of the A9 AF is that the center portion is much larger than on Canon, so if you enable AF via center point it could be on the bird or on the branch in front, it is too big. There are ?12 smaller AF points within the center block but you cannot pick any of them. This is a major issue since if you have an animal hiding in the bush and want its eye, it may focus instead on the foliage around its face.

    With the Canon 100-400L, the AF is better than acceptable, it is miles ahead of what it used to be with my A7R2. Leaving it on the center point, it actually uses any of the 12 points to focus (cannot pick one). I used it extensively on this tour and was very happy with it. It does hunt a bit in low-light or poor contrast areas. Having said that, I got great shots of Genets running about in the tree under a floodlight at ISO6400 (it was pitch dark otherwise).

    The great thing about Sony's manual focus is that the focus magnifier is really good. So when shooting the sand dunes in a very strong wind, even on a tripod the only way to get accurate focus at 400mm (with the Canon lens) was to go manual.

    Will the A9 perform as well as the native body with third party lenses? Absolutely not, would be foolish to expect that. However, I was very pleasantly surprised at how well it did.

    For me it is a no-brainer at this point. The Sony 100-400 is probably going to be shipped later this month or the next. It is said to be lighter than the Canon and if the IQ holds up will be a great lens.

    As far as the superteles go, I gave up on those a while ago, sold my 600MkII two years ago, will never go there again. Too much weight, besides I don't need super close-ups of birds. As I said, I am not a pro.

    Anybody sitting on the fence about the A9 should think strongly about it. At least that is my humble opinion.


    Hope to post some images later this week. I tell you it was simply great not carrying all that heavy equipment everywhere. I could put ALL my camera bodies (four of them, five if you count the wife's RX100), the two big lenses and all the smaller lenses plus SD card holders and my small ext drives in one bag and lug it all on my back! Could never do that with Canon gear.
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    Re: Sony's new camera A9

    Follow up to my post above. I stand corrected. After digging through the manual for the third time (and pointers by a gent on another forum), I have figured out how to enable a smaller central spot for AF on the Sony cameras. It is a feature also available on the A7R2 but since I only ever did landscapes with it, never looked into it.

    You can pick 'Expand AF point' or 'Lock-on AF mode' and then move the big wheel button left or right to pick a medium or small spot. However, it is still not the smallest (as on my Canon 1DX2) and you cannot pick this in the 'Center AF' point mode. The manual is unfortunately not very clear on this either.

    Anyway, much better than I thought, and is a big help, only wish I had discovered this on my trip instead of after!
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    Re: Sony's new camera A9

    Quote Originally Posted by Pradeep View Post
    Follow up to my post above. I stand corrected. After digging through the manual for the third time (and pointers by a gent on another forum), I have figured out how to enable a smaller central spot for AF on the Sony cameras. It is a feature also available on the A7R2 but since I only ever did landscapes with it, never looked into it.

    You can pick 'Expand AF point' or 'Lock-on AF mode' and then move the big wheel button left or right to pick a medium or small spot. However, it is still not the smallest (as on my Canon 1DX2) and you cannot pick this in the 'Center AF' point mode. The manual is unfortunately not very clear on this either.

    Anyway, much better than I thought, and is a big help, only wish I had discovered this on my trip instead of after!
    This works in flexible AF mode as well and you can put the AF point anywhere including the center point.
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    Re: Sony's new camera A9

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    This works in flexible AF mode as well and you can put the AF point anywhere including the center point.
    Thanks, Tre. Yes, it does work in Flexible AF or Lock-in AF mode only and not 'expand AF'. Also does not work with just selection of the Center AF point.

    Still, offers good possibilities. The next version or firmware update may indeed offer more.
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    Re: Sony's new camera A9

    So I've been watching multiple A9 reviews over the last 2 months now that people have quite a bit more time with it. To summarize I believe that Sony has left few complaints except the request for long fast primes 300mm and above. That says a lot about how much mirrorless has advanced and matured beyond where people thought was possible just a few years ago. Even hardcore Canon/Nikon fanboys rave about the maturation of mirrorless with the A9 which says a lot about the camera. It's another one that'll secretly have a litany of closet fans like the A7RII did.

    I personally am indifferent about the Sony menus and agree that they COULD be cleaner or organized differently. I think the biggest set of complaints come from people that are used to their other system. In reality the menus in the Alpha series haven't changed all that much since 2011 outside of a few added features. A lot of it comes with the territory when the camera is designed to be a true hybrid shooter that can go from photography to 4k video and back to photography seamlessly. Quite a few reviews all out states they should make the menu do this or that "like Canon/Nikon" but I guess the point is that potential users are worried about shortening their learning curve. One review mentioned they found Leica menus to be difficult to get used to as well so that piqued my interest as I found nothing about Leica menus to be hard to learn but I came to Leica from panasonic which has a similar menu system. I really don't think the menus in a Sony are any more difficult to pick up than an advanced Canon/Nikon/Fuji/Olympus... you just have to know there are added and more involved video features with the Sony cameras in most cases... and some Sony branded terminology is different i.e. Sony Steadyshot v. Nikon VR v. Canon IS.

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    Re: Sony's new camera A9

    Thanks Tre.
    The A9 = ILCE-9 is simply a marvelous tool.
    I wish the wheel on the top left was less fiddly.

    My preference would have been to leave the selection of focus modes and continuous shooting speeds where it was, namely in the two rows panel.

    The Olympus E-M1II makes that very easy with the Super Control Panel.

    What I find most amazing about the A9, even more so than about the E-M1II, is its focusing ability and that one can get useable images at ISO 25,600.
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    Re: Sony's new camera A9

    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    Thanks Tre.
    The A9 = ILCE-9 is simply a marvelous tool.
    I wish the wheel on the top left was less fiddly.

    My preference would have been to leave the selection of focus modes and continuous shooting speeds where it was, namely in the two rows panel.

    The Olympus E-M1II makes that very easy with the Super Control Panel.

    What I find most amazing about the A9, even more so than about the E-M1II, is its focusing ability and that one can get useable images at ISO 25,600.
    I haven't tried the newest Olympus EM-1 but I have tested the original one so I'll take your word for it.

    Regarding the Sony cameras though I find I rarely need anything more than the Function menu for anything other than formatting SD cards or turning off Live Settings Preview when shooting off camera flash photography. I assume with the A9 that they can both be assigned as a "My Menu" function further making the changes in settings occur more quickly. Also the 93% sensor coverage for autofocus points is revolutionary. At this point the next step is to have that work just as quickly for video and also limit the potential banding issues even further.

    I expect the A9s (if it happens) to make the jump to 18-20MP and maybe become the first hybrid camera to output up to 6K maybe. A few cameras are already putting out 6K->4K and Panasonic has a camera slotted between the GH5 and the Varicam cameras that will output 5.7K. This will further highlight the video dominance Sony is doing in their cameras.
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    I am mainly a stills shooter and don't much care for the video capabilities of my cameras. I am not able to do justice to video, simply put. I do occasionally shoot a segment but it sits on my computer, never going anywhere.

    For me, the journey from Canon to Sony has been exciting - though not entirely a smooth ride. The A9 has been a revolutionary product and has performed very well for me in the field. I am still not entirely convinced my 70-200 2.8 is the best copy but am willing to live with it for now. The other lenses have been just perfect.

    The menu system has improved greatly and it is my own inability to go through with it in detail that has led to some embarrassment I actually like the 'My Menu items' section and the 'custom keys' although frustratingly not all menu options are assignable and yet things like 'Eye AF' can only be accessed through a custom key assignment. There is hope for the future though which is the main thing.

    I think the biggest difference in the Sony philosophy is that they seem to be listening to the user much more than Canon has.
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    Re: Sony's new camera A9

    Quote Originally Posted by Pradeep View Post
    I am mainly a stills shooter and don't much care for the video capabilities of my cameras. I am not able to do justice to video, simply put. I do occasionally shoot a segment but it sits on my computer, never going anywhere.

    For me, the journey from Canon to Sony has been exciting - though not entirely a smooth ride. The A9 has been a revolutionary product and has performed very well for me in the field. I am still not entirely convinced my 70-200 2.8 is the best copy but am willing to live with it for now. The other lenses have been just perfect.

    The menu system has improved greatly and it is my own inability to go through with it in detail that has led to some embarrassment I actually like the 'My Menu items' section and the 'custom keys' although frustratingly not all menu options are assignable and yet things like 'Eye AF' can only be accessed through a custom key assignment. There is hope for the future though which is the main thing.

    I think the biggest difference in the Sony philosophy is that they seem to be listening to the user much more than Canon has.
    I agree and I primarily shoot stills as well. Ive been practicing on video editing in some of my spare time but I truthfully get somewhat stir crazy by sitting behind a desk for long periods of time when there's no goal or tangible end in sight.

    Sony oistening to owners and users (current or potential) is one of the reasons that I keep sticking with Sony as of now. I've entertained some other makers over the last year or so but there's too much uncertainty in their innovative direction going forward for me.

    When I mentioned the video that is mainly because the A9 is only about 4 frames off from movie frame rates at its fastest burst rate. As sensors gain more resolution, transfer speeds increase, and storage capacity continues to grow it's not out of the question to expect that the ability for cameras to be able to merge short 3-15 second videos for immediate consumption for both Photo and video purpose will be gained in time. Sure we can just hit the movie button but maybe we won't need to in the future. Perhaps you can just connect your camera through the app and it'll output at your preferred resolution of anywhere from 8k to 1080p at 24-60fps and you have the stills as well in camera for that "decisive moment" when needed.
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    I agree and I primarily shoot stills as well. Ive been practicing on video editing in some of my spare time but I truthfully get somewhat stir crazy by sitting behind a desk for long periods of time when there's no goal or tangible end in sight.

    Sony oistening to owners and users (current or potential) is one of the reasons that I keep sticking with Sony as of now. I've entertained some other makers over the last year or so but there's too much uncertainty in their innovative direction going forward for me.

    When I mentioned the video that is mainly because the A9 is only about 4 frames off from movie frame rates at its fastest burst rate. As sensors gain more resolution, transfer speeds increase, and storage capacity continues to grow it's not out of the question to expect that the ability for cameras to be able to merge short 3-15 second videos for immediate consumption for both Photo and video purpose will be gained in time. Sure we can just hit the movie button but maybe we won't need to in the future. Perhaps you can just connect your camera through the app and it'll output at your preferred resolution of anywhere from 8k to 1080p at 24-60fps and you have the stills as well in camera for that "decisive moment" when needed.
    Interesting you point that out Tre.

    On my recent trip I accidentally had the camera on at the 'high' burst rate initially and wasn't aware of how many frames that means because I also had it on 'nearly silent' shooting. It was only when I was looking at the images in my room at the end of the day that I realized I had shot off almost 2000 frames in less than two hours!

    However, what is even more interesting is that in Lightroom when you view the images in the 'fit screen' mode, all you have to do is to scroll up or down on the trackpad (I was on a Macbook Pro) and the program displays the successive frames in a movie-like mode. If you go forward with the arrow key it takes longer. This way, it is quite easy to see which frame has the animal looking at you with its ears forward etc. Quite fascinating to do this because as you point out, it is almost the same as watching a video clip.

    I can see myself making a very short gif animation consisting of just a few frames with this.
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    Re: Sony's new camera A9

    Finally managed to go through my photos. Posting a couple of images from Sossusvlei. The dunes were over a mile away from us and over a thousand feet high although they looked small from where we stood. There was a very strong wind blowing and I had to hold my rig down even though it was on a sturdy tripod. In the second photo you can see a 'sand lip' as it is called where the sand is blowing off the edge of the dune. Can only visualize it on full screen.

    On the A9 with the Canon 100-400 at full tele, the wind was so strong and the edge so fuzzy that autofocus was difficult. Had to use manual focus which is such a breeze with the Sony.

    PS. These are two different dunes (not the same one from a different angle as one would think).



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    Stunning images! Thanks.
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    Re: Sony's new camera A9

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    Stunning images! Thanks.
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    Thanks K-H and Vivek.

    Will post some more soon, learnt several lessons on this trip.
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    Re: Sony's new camera A9

    I'm assuming others have read this already but I had not. I'm sort of scratching my head at how DPReview has about as many cons as pros for the A9 and it retained a Gold rating (although it's rating is somehow lower than that of the A7RII despite being the better camera).

    https://m.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-a9-full-review/12

    On another note it seems that we can now map the live view settings effects menu as a function item in firmware 4.00. Maybe this was available in a previous version but I updated from 3.10 to 4.00 so it's new to me. At this point I literally only have to jump into the main menu to format SD cards or change video settings when necessary.
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    Re: Sony's new camera A9

    Quote Originally Posted by iiiNelson View Post
    I'm assuming others have read this already but I had not. I'm sort of scratching my head at how DPReview has about as many cons as pros for the A9 and it retained a Gold rating (although it's rating is somehow lower than that of the A7RII despite being the better camera).

    https://m.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-a9-full-review/12

    On another note it seems that we can now map the live view settings effects menu as a function item in firmware 4.00. Maybe this was available in a previous version but I updated from 3.10 to 4.00 so it's new to me. At this point I literally only have to jump into the main menu to format SD cards or change video settings when necessary.
    Oh no Tre.
    Based on this review I should dump my currently favorite camera, the A9.
    But I won't, as almost all their Cons are irrelevant to my way of shooting.
    With best regards, K-H.

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    .........'shooting uncompressed RAW drops burs speed to 12fps'

    That slow eh?.....makes you wonder what DPreview thinks would be a respectable burst speed.......

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    Yeah I didn't get why that was a con and quite frankly I rarely shoot anything in uncompressed RAW. Never had an issue with the lossy files myself. I really think certain cameras have to be exposed differently depending on the characteristics of the sensor. There's not really a One size fits all way of shooting. For Sony (and Leica) I've always slightly underexposed and chose to fix in post when necessary because shadow recovery was always excellent with Sony sensors and aesthetically pleasing to my eye with Kodak CCD. May not always be technically correct but it works for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    Oh no Tre.
    Based on this review I should dump my currently favorite camera, the A9.
    But I won't, as almost all their Cons are irrelevant to my way of shooting.
    Yeah dump it... dump it now and shoot either Canon or Nikon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iiiNelson View Post
    Yeah dump it... dump it now and shoot either Canon or Nikon.
    With best regards, K-H.

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    Thats sort of the vibe I get from many reviews which is a little disturbing considering that these are professional reviewers that don't seem to review based upon the strengths along with baseline comparisons... when it comes to certain brands.
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    Tre, I suspect if you presented them with gold dust with diamonds in it, they would still complain - 'diamonds are not large enough'. They have to find some cons else how can they justify having a review?

    Ever looked at product reviews by users on Amazon? Even a simple tool that works flawlessly the way it is supposed to will have a few 1-star ratings - some people will always complain! A movie that is loved by everyone and has been a perennial favorite will also have many who will pan it.

    For ordinary folk like me, the issue is - does this do the job for me and do I like it? If so, the hell with professional reviews
    Too much to list, let's just say I have a bad case of GAS.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pradeep View Post
    Tre, I suspect if you presented them with gold dust with diamonds in it, they would still complain - 'diamonds are not large enough'. They have to find some cons else how can they justify having a review?

    Ever looked at product reviews by users on Amazon? Even a simple tool that works flawlessly the way it is supposed to will have a few 1-star ratings - some people will always complain! A movie that is loved by everyone and has been a perennial favorite will also have many who will pan it.

    For ordinary folk like me, the issue is - does this do the job for me and do I like it? If so, the hell with professional reviews
    I agree and user reviews are mostly next to useless unless viewed as a combined review. I would like to think that a large professional site though would have people experienced enough to just make any camera work with the caveat that I k ow we all have preferences in workflow... hence the preference for one camera design over another. In any case I though that was interesting to see and I actually chuckle at quite a few reviewers that apparently have only tried a Sony mirrorless in their hands with the A9. Many are touting Eye AF as a new revolutionary feature unique to the A9 but owners know that the A7II series and A6xxx series enjoyed this feature for a few years now.
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    I saw quite a few A9's (to go along with the occasional A7RII seen in the past) over the last few months in the White House... I guess pros are accepting Sony FE now as a legitimate option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iiiNelson View Post
    I saw quite a few A9's (to go along with the occasional A7RII seen in the past) over the last few months in the White House... I guess pros are accepting Sony FE now as a legitimate option.
    Tre, a silent A9 is hard to beat!
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