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    Tamron FE Plans

    Looks like Tamron is following up their 28-75/2.8 and 17-28/2.8 withba telephoto zoom next. Depending on price it looks like people will be able to obtain a trio of lenses for about the price of a G-Master zoom. Excellent options at more reasonable prices for those that canít really obtain a full kit of Sonyís premium lenses.

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    Re: Tamron FE Plans

    not bad at all, it seems the fe mount has good traction now and all in a short time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by msadat View Post
    not bad at all, it seems the fe mount has good traction now and all in a short time!
    Yeah. Thatís true. Itís one of the factors that make me hesitant to possibly adopt an additional system to overcome some of my subjective ďissuesĒ with Sony. There are rumors of an updated A9 coming later this year and Iím interested in seeing if theyíll retain the identical body size with it or allow it to possibly grow ever so slightly... or if theyíll bring out a separate body to cover those that want a larger option.
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    Re: Tamron FE Plans

    Richard Wong 17-28/2.8 Review.

    https://youtu.be/yCjT44Q7j4A

    TLW... great lens with a few design compromises with respect to price and size. Great alternative to the 16-35/2.8 GM at less than half the price.
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    Re: Tamron FE Plans

    Another here for the 17-28:

    https://youtu.be/__NvUK7MHAE

    Some of his conclusions seem at odds with the samples he's showing on screen... but it's hard to tell. I don't think the Tamron will truly be as good as the 16-35 GM, especially in the corners. He kind of skips over corner performance for astro, despite having some samples, which is a bit worrying. I sold my Sony 16-35/4 in anticipation of this lens, but if it turns out to only be OK, I might stick with my Voigtlander 15 and add a prime like the 24/1.4 GM.

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    Re: Tamron FE Plans

    Quote Originally Posted by ggibson View Post
    Another here for the 17-28:

    https://youtu.be/__NvUK7MHAE

    Some of his conclusions seem at odds with the samples he's showing on screen... but it's hard to tell. I don't think the Tamron will truly be as good as the 16-35 GM, especially in the corners. He kind of skips over corner performance for astro, despite having some samples, which is a bit worrying. I sold my Sony 16-35/4 in anticipation of this lens, but if it turns out to only be OK, I might stick with my Voigtlander 15 and add a prime like the 24/1.4 GM.
    Yeah I seriously doubt itíll be as good as the GM. I think the big benefit is price to performance, speed, and an alternative option.
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    Re: Tamron FE Plans

    The best bang for the buck in this focal range is the Canon 16-35 f4 L. Can usually pick them up used for ~$750 or so plus you'd need the MC-11 if you don't have one already. Since I regularly use Canon lenses on my Sonys, it isn't an issue. Of course, if you need the f2.8, the Sony is quite good. The Canon f4L lens completely outshines their own f2.8L.

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    Re: Tamron FE Plans

    Quote Originally Posted by JoelM View Post
    The best bang for the buck in this focal range is the Canon 16-35 f4 L. Can usually pick them up used for ~$750 or so plus you'd need the MC-11 if you don't have one already. Since I regularly use Canon lenses on my Sonys, it isn't an issue. Of course, if you need the f2.8, the Sony is quite good. The Canon f4L lens completely outshines their own f2.8L.

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    The Tamron is going to be $899 new so itíll retail for about the same price as an used Canon 16-35/4 + Adapter. I agree that the Canon f/4 L zoom lenses are great but I personally donít adapt lenses all that much any longer. Didnít have a bad experience but the native experience just works a bit better for me.
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    For me, the biggest selling point for this Tamron is size and weight, but price is also a win. There's nothing really like it--420g for an f2.8 AF ultrawide zoom at $900. I will gladly give up some range, especially on the long end where I can crop more easily. Of course those looking for ultimate image quality will go for the 16-35 GM or primes, or those looking for value can find a used Canon (not really any cheaper though if you have to factor the adapter in). The Tamron hits a nice sweet spot in the middle for me, but that's as long as it delivers at least decent image quality (as good as the 16-35/4 would be fine). If corner performance for astro is not great, then the f2.8 spec is less appealing.

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    Review so far from Camera Labs with lots of full-size images:

    https://www.cameralabs.com/tamron-17...di-iii-review/
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    Re: Tamron FE Plans

    I'm cross-posting some of this text from another forum, so apologies to those who read it twice

    I received my lens this week and had some time to shoot it yesterday. Prior to this, I owned the Sony 16-35/4 (sold in anticipation of the Tamron), and I currently own the Voigtlander 15/4.5 III and Sony 28/2 for this range. For practical purposes regarding handling and usage, the Tamron is almost exactly the same size and weight as the two primes put together. Both setups feel small and light! There is an advantage to having two lenses in that I often carry just the Sony 28/2 as a walk-around lens. Or I can skip the 28/2 and carry the Voigtlander 15mm with my Voigtlander 40mm (sharing the same filters too). Whether I will sell these primes and stick with the Tamron, I haven't decided yet.

    I compared shots of the two primes against the Tamron and tested the Tamron corners for centering. Mine is well centered, at least testing the extreme focal lengths, 17 and 28.

    Between the Tamron and my CV15, you'd be hard pressed to tell them apart aside from the focal length difference. Wide open for both lenses (f2.8 vs. f4.5), the CV15 is just a bit better. Stopped down, there's not really much difference to talk about, but the Voigtlander has more CA. My CV15 has great corners, no smearing.

    Against the Sony 28/2, I found the Tamron was better resolving at both f2.8 and f8. Most of the difference is in midfield and edge/corner resolution. Both lenses look good in the center. Bokeh-wise, compared at f2.8 the Tamron is a bit cleaner, but the Sony of course has f2. I would say 95% of my Sony 28/2 shots are family shots at f2 where center sharpness on the Sony is great. There's a bokeh comparison below, and I think the difference is small enough not to matter to me. For environmental portraits with maximum bokeh, I have the Voigtlander 40/1.2. The Tamron does focus more closely than the 28/2 by the way. Overall, I would say that I feel like the Tamron can pretty much replace everything the 28/2 does except for its size. For a look at bokeh--a quick comparison wide open between the Tamron at f2.8 and the Sony 28/2 at f2 with full-size links below (keep in mind there's no profile applied to the Tamron). Don't read too much into the colors, since I've adjusted both quite a bit:


    Tamron at 28mm f2.8 by Graham Gibson, on Flickr
    Full-size: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...61b1806e_o.jpg


    Sony 28mm at f2 by Graham Gibson, on Flickr
    Full-size: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...7b876c27_o.jpg

    And a few more shots--Tamron at 17mm, f2.8:

    Cactus by Graham Gibson, on Flickr

    Tamron at 28mm, f2.8:

    Bokeh test by Graham Gibson, on Flickr

    Tamron at 28mm, f2.8:

    Bokeh Test by Graham Gibson, on Flickr

    Tamron at 17mm f2.8:

    Close focus wide angle by Graham Gibson, on Flickr

    Tamron at 20mm at f22 (this was actually using Sky HDR, I forget what exposure was used for the sky):

    Orinda Hills by Graham Gibson, on Flickr

    Tamron at 17mm at f13, Sunstar:

    Sunstar by Graham Gibson, on Flickr
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    The Tamron looks excellent and if I choose to stay with my Sony system Iíll probably go ahead and pick up all of the Tamron zooms for convenience. Thanks for sharing though I did see your landscape shots on Flickr already.
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    Well I just went ahead and bought both the 17-28 and the 28-75. I’ll probably add the 70-180 once available and call it good unless they make a 150-400 lens of reasonable size and speed. I think I’m good on primes though I debate selling the 85 Batis from time to time. I just don’t use it much and would probably get much more use from the 100 STF GM... and I just prefer the focal length.

    Im looking to pair the 17-28 with the 55/1.8 for a small walk around kit to do most things with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iiiNelson View Post
    Well I just went ahead and bought both the 17-28 and the 28-75. Iíll probably add the 70-180 once available and call it good unless they make a 150-400 lens of reasonable size and speed. I think Iím good on primes though I debate selling the 85 Batis from time to time. I just donít use it much and would probably get much more use from the 100 STF GM... and I just prefer the focal length.

    Im looking to pair the 17-28 with the 55/1.8 for a small walk around kit to do most things with.
    Very nice! I think it's a great lens. I have been bringing mine with the Voigtlander 40/1.2, but I still have the 55/1.8 also. Nice duo. The Tamron has replaced my 28/2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggibson View Post
    Very nice! I think it's a great lens. I have been bringing mine with the Voigtlander 40/1.2, but I still have the 55/1.8 also. Nice duo. The Tamron has replaced my 28/2.
    I sold my 25 Batis a couple years ago and have wanted an excellent wide again. This seems to fit the bill.
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    Well both lenses arrived today. I havenít made time to use them but the build quality is a bit better than I imagined based on the many reviews suggested in my estimation... well based on the short time that I handled them. Two weeks until Iím in Greece and get to have a more full idea on this performance. The 28-75 is a bit larger than I though it would be but not at all unreasonable in size. Itís actually even comfortable to use without the grip which was a pleasant surprise.
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    Re: Tamron FE Plans

    Updates on the latest announcements from the rumor sites.

    https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/full...ally-released/

    TL: DR

    The Tamron primes all have 1:2 Macro ability and f/2.8 apertures. The 24mm and 35mm will be released in December of this year. The 20mm will come in early 2020. All primes have an MSRP of $349. These all use the 67mm size filter threads like all of the Tamron zooms have so far... kinda makes you wonder if they could’ve pulled off an f/2 for all of these lenses but I won’t complain.

    The 70-180/2.8 is in development still but is scheduled for a Spring 2020 release. No pricing announcement yet but it’ll have a 67mm filter thread like the other two zooms... it’ll also have a 33” minimum focusing distance at all focal lengths to give it a semi macro capability. I’m expecting a $1200-1500 price point. It will likely be worth more judging from their zooms. I’ll have some pictures to share of those lenses in the coming weeks.
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    Re: Tamron FE Plans

    Quote Originally Posted by iiiNelson View Post
    Well both lenses arrived today. I havenít made time to use them but the build quality is a bit better than I imagined based on the many reviews suggested in my estimation... well based on the short time that I handled them. Two weeks until Iím in Greece and get to have a more full idea on this performance. The 28-75 is a bit larger than I though it would be but not at all unreasonable in size. Itís actually even comfortable to use without the grip which was a pleasant surprise.
    Looking forward to some shots!!
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    How far we Sony users have come in a few short years. Seems like every week there are interesting new lenses being announced. And something in nearly every price range too!

    I'm very anxious to give the 70-180mm a go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeEvangelist View Post
    How far we Sony users have come in a few short years. Seems like every week there are interesting new lenses being announced. And something in nearly every price range too!

    I'm very anxious to give the 70-180mm a go.
    Very true. Sony has benefitted greatly from many of their strategic decisions to include having an open (yet proprietary) lens mount protocol, going all in on FF Mirrorless early on, and having huge commercial success.
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    $350 price point is awesome for these primes!

    The 20/2.8 is interesting to me for travel. Though I'm pleased with the Tamron 17-28 for now. Great lens.

    I'm curious about the 70-180 also. I currently have a Batis 85 and CV 180/4 to cover this range, but might consider replacing them with a single zoom. The bokeh performance will have to be better than their 28-75 though; that lens has a very busy look. It will matter a lot more with longer focal lengths in the telephoto zoom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ggibson View Post
    $350 price point is awesome for these primes!

    The 20/2.8 is interesting to me for travel. Though I'm pleased with the Tamron 17-28 for now. Great lens.

    I'm curious about the 70-180 also. I currently have a Batis 85 and CV 180/4 to cover this range, but might consider replacing them with a single zoom. The bokeh performance will have to be better than their 28-75 though; that lens has a very busy look. It will matter a lot more with longer focal lengths in the telephoto zoom.
    Yeah Iím looking at the 70-180 lens to essentially replace my 85 Batis and the Sony 135/1.8 A-mount essentially.
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    For all of us Sony users, this is welcome news. The more competition there is, the more choices we have and the product keeps getting better. Remember the frustration from only a few years ago when there were just a few lenses. The good thing even then was the ability to use 3rd party stuff with adapters. Had the Canon gear left over which was great to try.

    I honestly feel Sony is gradually increasing its market share and may even become the leader in a few years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pradeep View Post
    For all of us Sony users, this is welcome news. The more competition there is, the more choices we have and the product keeps getting better. Remember the frustration from only a few years ago when there were just a few lenses. The good thing even then was the ability to use 3rd party stuff with adapters. Had the Canon gear left over which was great to try.

    I honestly feel Sony is gradually increasing its market share and may even become the leader in a few years.
    I believe they already are the market leader in FF sales.
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    I believe they already are the market leader in FF sales.
    Tre, is that global FF or only in the mirrorless world?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pradeep View Post
    Tre, is that global FF or only in the mirrorless world?
    I believe itís in global FF sales.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dig...ny-2018/%3famp

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.eng...ra-domination/

    ...and this is interesting being that ~70% of the market is driven by consumer and compact cameras.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dig...s-market-share
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    So one of the overlooked things I discovered today in my first real time shooting with the 17-28/2.8 is its value as a walk around wide angle zoom for street/travel photography. I think a lot of people judge the lens based on landscape use (spoiler alert thereís some software correctable distortion present) and its use for event photography. While itís capable IMO of all of these things itís a pleasant surprise in some other use cases. Obviously itís missing the 35mm side of things but when paired with a lens in the 50mm (or 55mm in my case) range of things (or the 28-75 like Tamron wants people to do) itís quite a combo.
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    I recently sold Sony 16-35mm f4 and bought Tamron 17-28mm f2.8 to decrease size and weight and added benefit of 2.8 f stop. Used it for landscape recently and am pleased so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolyaya View Post
    I recently sold Sony 16-35mm f4 and bought Tamron 17-28mm f2.8 to decrease size and weight and added benefit of 2.8 f stop. Used it for landscape recently and am pleased so far.
    Iím in Greece until Saturday night and have backed up some photos to my Gnarbox 2.0 SSD and viewed on my iPad Pro. Iím impressed with both Tamron pair so far without even doing any edits to the shots at all. Color wise the coatings on the Tamron lenses render slightly warmer and with a very slight yellow tint comparable to Sony lens coatings which render more neutral with a extremely slight cool/blue tint. Iím definitely will be buying the 70-180 ASAP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iiiNelson View Post
    Looks like Tamron is following up their 28-75/2.8 and 17-28/2.8 withba telephoto zoom next. Depending on price it looks like people will be able to obtain a trio of lenses for about the price of a G-Master zoom. Excellent options at more reasonable prices for those that canít really obtain a full kit of Sonyís premium lenses.

    https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/tamr...arriving-soon/
    I'm interested in the upcoming Tamron telephoto zoom to see how it might perform as a portrait lens. Would be lighter and smaller than typical 70-200 f2.8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iiiNelson View Post
    Iím in Greece until Saturday night and have backed up some photos to my Gnarbox 2.0 SSD and viewed on my iPad Pro. Iím impressed with both Tamron pair so far without even doing any edits to the shots at all. Color wise the coatings on the Tamron lenses render slightly warmer and with a very slight yellow tint comparable to Sony lens coatings which render more neutral with a extremely slight cool/blue tint. Iím definitely will be buying the 70-180 ASAP.
    I may be interested in that lens also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolyaya View Post
    I'm interested in the upcoming Tamron telephoto zoom to see how it might perform as a portrait lens. Would be lighter and smaller than typical 70-200 f2.8.
    When I first bought into the Sony system I used some old Zeiss Contax Yashica telephoto lenses to cover the long end. My longest lens was the 180/2.8 so Iím well aware that this focal length and aperture will work for me in a zoom form factor. Iím assuming that the Tamron 70-180 will not be an internal focusing design (similar to the 28-75) to keep the size on the smaller size but I also assume that when extended, it wonít protrude too far. If they did find a way to build it at that size and make it internal focusing - well thatíll be an engineering miracle assuming it also performs on the same level as the first two lenses.
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    These are SOOC without any edits from the 17-28/2.8.

    Untitled by Tre Nelson, on Flickr

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    Six more unannounced lenses are coming.

    https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/tamr...their-roadmap/
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