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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    Quote Originally Posted by Arne Hvaring View Post
    This interesting thread has convinced me that I have to get my hands on a A900 and do a serious comparision of the colour response/tonality vis a vis my Canon and Nikon gear. At least for my own peace of mind
    Hmm, that could get expensive..
    Yep that's the best way. I spent a few hours downloading an examining A900 raw files, but I counldn't conclude anything beyond "Looks nice".
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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    Back to the OP's first post, it may be that the answer lies in the economic demographics. The Pros able to afford an $8000 camera are probably not spending time posting "fun" pictures on these forums........The Sony camera is more affordable to Advanced Amateurs and hobbyists who are able to have more time to play around, in general.
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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    Quote Originally Posted by MoJo View Post
    Back to the OP's first post, it may be that the answer lies in the economic demographics. The Pros able to afford an $8000 camera are probably not spending time posting "fun" pictures on these forums........The Sony camera is more affordable to Advanced Amateurs and hobbyists who are able to have more time to play around, in general.
    Are you sure? That would be sad
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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    Quote Originally Posted by MoJo View Post
    Back to the OP's first post, it may be that the answer lies in the economic demographics. The Pros able to afford an $8000 camera are probably not spending time posting "fun" pictures on these forums........The Sony camera is more affordable to Advanced Amateurs and hobbyists who are able to have more time to play around, in general.
    I'm not sure if that reasoning holds, there are some pros on this forum as well as amateurs. I'd say it's more likely that A900 outsells the D3x by a huge margin, in terms of units sold, so there are simply many more A900 users.
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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    Quote Originally Posted by Lars Vinberg View Post
    I'm not sure if that reasoning holds, there are some pros on this forum as well as amateurs.
    . . . . and judging by the amateur expenditure on expensive MF gear around here, I'd suggest that a D3x would be a mere nothing (present company excepted!).

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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    . . . . and judging by the amateur expenditure on expensive MF gear around here, I'd suggest that a D3x would be a mere nothing (present company excepted!).
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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    I saw the D3x body at Grays of Westminster in UK for round about Euro 4.7K ex Vat.

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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    Quote Originally Posted by Georg Baumann View Post
    I saw the D3x body at Grays of Westminster in UK for round about Euro 4.7K ex Vat.
    Cheap as Chips
    Robert White have it at £4325 ex vat, which is perhaps a little cheaper.

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    Grays is 4250 Sterling ex Vat Jono <shrugs>

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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    Quote Originally Posted by MoJo View Post
    Back to the OP's first post, it may be that the answer lies in the economic demographics. The Pros able to afford an $8000 camera are probably not spending time posting "fun" pictures on these forums........The Sony camera is more affordable to Advanced Amateurs and hobbyists who are able to have more time to play around, in general.
    Its probably the other way around Pros can't afford to waste money on an overpriced camera. Jono and I have a mutual full-time pro friend who baulks at the price of the D3x. I could afford (and had on order) a D3x, but thought Nikon were takin the p*ss when the price was announced. So I cancelled the order and went Sony and don't regret it.
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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    Since how long do you work with it Quentin?

    Any firmware bugs or generally negative points you came across for landscape work?

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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    Quote Originally Posted by Georg Baumann View Post
    Since how long do you work with it Quentin?

    Any firmware bugs or generally negative points you came across for landscape work?
    Hi Georg
    I'm sure that Quentin will answer for himself.

    I had previously been using Nikons (D3/D700 and most predecessors) including Landscape work.

    I could also afford a D3x if I wanted, but I find the mid range colour on the A900 especially in evening light, to be so much better than the Nikon that I never want to go back there again.

    Added to which I find I'm getting a much higher proportion of sharp pictures, whether this is because of the IS on the sensor (I was mostly using the 24-70 on each camera), or because of mirror vibration in the D3 or what it was, it does seem to be borne out by current D3x users who seem to feel that you must use a tripod. Hand holding with the A900 is a snap.

    Basically, if someone offered me a D3x and the equivalent nikkors to replace my A900 for landscape, I'd only accept so that I could sell it all, make some money and get another A900.

    If the cameras cost the same, I'd still have the A900. Of course, we're talking landscape and general nature here, I'm not claiming that the A900 is a better camera in all conditions.

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    I think the D3x also lacks the dust shaker on the sensor, something I never understood for a camera in this price class.

    As for landscapes, I assume you would not use the inmage stabelizer at all and rather switch it off, using tripod and mirror lockup to avoid blur in high frequency areas.

    Having said that, for occaisonal handhelds, this is very "handy" of course.

    So you are not missing the 14-24 Nikkor?

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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    Quote Originally Posted by Georg Baumann View Post
    Since how long do you work with it Quentin?

    Any firmware bugs or generally negative points you came across for landscape work?
    Hi George,

    I have used the A900 for some months. for landscape work it got a major outing a couple of weeks ago in Dorset and it performed well

    The mirror is a big mutha, and mirror slap should be avoided for sharpest results. That means using MLU, which is one area the Mamiya ZD excelled in (great big MLU button that works in any mode). With the A900, its one of several drive alternatives which is fussier, but its not a huge problem.

    Also if you use the 24-70mm Zeiss, beware all but the thinnest filters vignette in the extreme corners - even the Lee filter system, which suggests they should have used a bigger filter thread, say 82mm instead of 77mm.

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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    Quote Originally Posted by Georg Baumann View Post
    I think the D3x also lacks the dust shaker on the sensor, something I never understood for a camera in this price class.

    As for landscapes, I assume you would not use the inmage stabelizer at all and rather switch it off, using tripod and mirror lockup to avoid blur in high frequency areas.
    HI Georg
    Well, most of my landscape is in good light, and mostly I handhold with IS on, and I'm not getting any blur in high frequency areas. Even at shutter speeds down to (and below) the old conventional wisdom (i.e. equal to the focal length).

    Quentin is right about the mirror being loud, but I'm not convinced there is any shake involved until after the shutter has closed.

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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Bargate View Post
    Hi George,

    I have used the A900 for some months. for landscape work it got a major outing a couple of weeks ago in Dorset and it performed well

    The mirror is a big mutha, and mirror slap should be avoided for sharpest results. That means using MLU, which is one area the Mamiya ZD excelled in (great big MLU button that works in any mode). With the A900, its one of several drive alternatives which is fussier, but its not a huge problem.

    Also if you use the 24-70mm Zeiss, beware all but the thinnest filters vignette in the extreme corners - even the Lee filter system, which suggests they should have used a bigger filter thread, say 82mm instead of 77mm.

    Quentin
    Quentin, does that include the LEE W/A 77mm adapter ring that reverses back on itself?

    Hmm, I have one of those, and the LEE W/A Shade/Filter Holder so maybe I should give it a try when I get a minute.

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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Bargate View Post
    Its probably the other way around Pros can't afford to waste money on an overpriced camera. Jono and I have a mutual full-time pro friend who baulks at the price of the D3x. I could afford (and had on order) a D3x, but thought Nikon were takin the p*ss when the price was announced. So I cancelled the order and went Sony and don't regret it.
    Same here. Was working with a D3 and D700 ... waiting for the D3X. When the D3X hit the street at $8K with the only improvement being the higher meg sensor and virtually little else, I thought it a bit much.

    Maybe just as importantly, Nikon seems to avoid fast aperture, high spec Primes like the Plague ... finally replacing the toy like 50/1.4 with more capable AFS model, but no nano crystal coating ... and still no replacement for the aging non-AFS 85/1.4 or 135/2 ... two very important focal lengths for my work. The two best Nikon lenses I currently use are the 12-24 and incomparable 200/2VR ... but both are very specialized in terms of applications and as result see less use than the spread from 24mm to 135mm.

    Frankly, were it not for those two lenses and maybe the not often used 100VR macro, and the fact that the D3 is so fast, and the D700 is such a good low light performer, there would be zero reason for me to have any Nikon gear.

    As I am learning to work with the A900, I'm finding high ISOs are there to use for my applications, further endangering the Nikons. If Sony releases a full-frame, fatter pixel 12-16 meg camera that's better optimized for low light work, then the Nikon's will be history.

    All that said, I'd like to try out the D3X for more than a few minutes at some dealer's counter, and explore the new set of T/S lenses for creative applications. It's just that the price is so staggering for what would again be specialized applications, I can't see it happening unless the nature of my work changes drastically.

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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    I can confirm that care must be taken with filters when using the ZA24-70 with the A900. It is a just factor of the full frame sensor.

    However using a thin rimmed filter prevents vignetting so long as you don't attempt to stack the filters. When I first observed this problem it was after trying to use a polariser screwed into a UV filter which stays on the lens all the time! I could get away with this when I used a 1.37 crop sensor DSLR.

    You can't get away with such a lazy approach with full frame sensors as the sensor is making full use of all the lens area. In itself this is a tribute to Zeiss, Sony G lenses and many of the older Minolta lens designs that perform brilliantly with the A900.

    So yes, the answer then is to use step down rings and larger diameter filters if you need to stack filters. I could never get on with Lee or Cokin filter systems, preferring to stack B & W screw in neutral grad., polariser filters etc.
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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    ... finally replacing the toy like 50/1.4 with more capable AFS model, but no nano crystal coating ...
    In all honesty, the 50/1.4 would benefit the least from better coating, as it has so few elements. I can't understand why people complain about this - it's the complex zooms and wideangles that really need the super coating.
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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    Quote Originally Posted by Lars Vinberg View Post
    In all honesty, the 50/1.4 would benefit the least from better coating, as it has so few elements. I can't understand why people complain about this - it's the complex zooms and wideangles that really need the super coating.
    Maybe least benefited Lars ... but are you saying there would be "no" benefit? Get up into 24+ meg full frame, and lenses are going to need all the help they can get.

    Based on that reasoning, I guess Zeiss should skip their T* coating on the "simple" primes.

    I think Nikon did it because it would keep the lens more in line with Canon's non-L 50/1.4 in terms of cost. IMO, it's just an example of NOT providing top level primes, while offering 10,000 versions of consumer zooms from 18 to 2000mm at f/3.5-5.6.

    And, IMO, it is why prime shooters are jacking around with Leica R primes to bolt them on a Nikon ... or buying manual focus Zeiss ZFs. Just like Canon users do with wide angles ... trying to make up for defencies in the manufacturer's lens line up.

    Canon L kills Nikon for Primes from 35mm on up ... except for maybe the 100 VR Macro (but only because of the VR). Canon 35/1.4L, 50/1.2L, 85/1.2-IIL, 135/2L ... all top performing workhorse focal lengths with no real counterpart from Nikon, not one.

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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    Maybe least benefited Lars ... but are you saying there would be "no" benefit? Get up into 24+ meg full frame, and lenses are going to need all the help they can get.
    Of course it matters but the benefit is more marginal than for a complex lens design or for a wideangle lens. Nanocrystal coating reduces reflection and improves transmisson. It doesn't improve resolution. So it doesn't matter if you shoot one or 24 megapixels, the relevance of good coating is the same. What matters is the number of surfaces in the lens.

    We could speculate on why Nikon does not use NC on all its lenses - perhaps it's an expensive process, perhaps the coating is too fragile for consumer lenses (the original nano particle coating used in steppers was), perhaps they just want to maintain the exclusivity of the brand name.
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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    Marc,

    Let me know how you get on with the Lee WA adaptor rign. I was using the standard 77mm ring which has proved fine in the past. But it vignettes slightly even with a screw in polariser

    As for primes, most of the money is at the bottom end, lenses and cameras. Few buy the "exotic" primes so the development budget probably just isn't there.

    And much as I hate to contradict Jono, using a tripod does make a difference to sharpness.
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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    "Marginal" means a lot ... we all pay dearly for "Marginal" gains with digital.

    I guess I was mistaken ... I thought the coatings also helped increase contrast ... which is helpful with higher meg cameras because users of such gear are more inclined to be seeking every advantage to exploit.

    No matter, they don't have it ... and apparently it's okay with some people that they don't.

    I'm moving to Sony anyway. High meg, less money, much better work horse lenses. Glass is where it's at as far as I'm concerned ... and Nikon is asleep at the wheel in that regard IMHO.

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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    Nikon has come back by tooth and claw to outcompete Canon at the top, so I guess there is some hope that they will refresh their lens lineup sometime soon. The 14-24 and 24-70, as well as 200/2 give some hope.
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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    "Marginal" means a lot ... we all pay dearly for "Marginal" gains with digital.

    I guess I was mistaken ... I thought the coatings also helped increase contrast ... which is helpful with higher meg cameras because users of such gear are more inclined to be seeking every advantage to exploit.

    No matter, they don't have it ... and apparently it's okay with some people that they don't.

    I'm moving to Sony anyway. High meg, less money, much better work horse lenses. Glass is where it's at as far as I'm concerned ... and Nikon is asleep at the wheel in that regard IMHO.
    Not arguing your point re Nikon's market positioning, Marc - Nikon really needs to broaden its line with pro primes.

    Of course we all want the best possible image quality. I'm just saying coating isn't why lenses are sharp. I use a 1970's Fujinon single-coated lens on 8x10 which is a hell of a lot more demanding WRT lenses than any SLR - that Fujinon resolves fairly close to 2000 dpi (which on 8x10 equals 320 megapixels). I'm really careful about always using a compendium hood though, as any stray light will bounce around between the lens surfaces a bit. Also, 24 megapixels isn't much of a challenge for the sharpest 35mm primes, like Zeiss' best performers.
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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Bargate View Post

    And much as I hate to contradict Jono, using a tripod does make a difference to sharpness.
    Contradict away - although actually that wasn't quite what I said! Anyway, it doesn't make any difference around here, where there is no landscape - only plants, and it's always blowing at 100miles an hour! My point really was that one can get good sharp results with the A900 without using a tripod.

    I once saw a guy in the botanical garden in Cambridge, with a tripod and a stepladder so he could look down into his hassy. He was taking a picture of a plant in a pot, the plant was waving gently around in the wind.

    Of course tripods make things sharper, but there are points where they are useful, and points where they aren't (same kind of points as IS I guess).

    I'm only fighting against the generally held opinion that you can't take landscape pictures without a tripod. Someone once told me that it wasn't worth bothering with a shutter speed less than 1/500th, even with a WA lens.

    I've got loads of extremely sharp pictures which were taken hand held . . . could they have been sharper? possibly, but they probably couldn't have been taken at all.

    Of course, for long exposures etc.

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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    Quote Originally Posted by carstenw View Post
    Nikon has come back by tooth and claw to outcompete Canon at the top, so I guess there is some hope that they will refresh their lens lineup sometime soon. The 14-24 and 24-70, as well as 200/2 give some hope.
    Totally agree about those lenses ... and the new FF cameras are great. Just a few stinking work horse primes ... pretty please!

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    Maybe Nikon is falling back on Zeiss here. I must say that I don't understand why Nikon are expanding their plastic mount lens range.
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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    Quote Originally Posted by carstenw View Post
    Maybe Nikon is falling back on Zeiss here. I must say that I don't understand why Nikon are expanding their plastic mount lens range.
    Bizarre isn't it, there seems to be three of everything. But not a decent quality f4 zoom in sight (or the primes we would all like)

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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    ....As I am learning to work with the A900, I'm finding high ISOs are there to use for my applications, further endangering the Nikons. If Sony releases a full-frame, fatter pixel 12-16 meg camera that's better optimized for low light work, then the Nikon's will be history....
    -Marc
    You'll probably want to hang on to your Nikon gear for a while, because Sony won't quite get there in the high ISO department...at least not for a while. Sony's high ISO performance isn't a matter of pixel size, but rather sensor design and color separation. The EXMOR processor is tailored for low read noise at low ISO, but, as we've all seen, gaining the ADCs up isn't the sensor's strong suit.** Nikon D3x has circumvented this a bit with its special 14-bit processing that appears to be taking multiple samples, and Nikon has a better starting point, because of their weaker color separation. However, the D3x still can't hang with the D3 (or 5dii, for that matter,) because the D3's sensor design is drastically different, and, while having higher read noise at low ISO, it has much lower read noise at the higher ISOs. Until Sony brings a different sensor design, a 16MP EXMOR won't really have any less noise than the A900, assuming you're viewing their files at the same size in print or on screen. Even if Sony does address this, they'll still be a bit behind Canon and Nikon, unless they begin putting weaker CFAs in their cameras, which IMO, would be too bad, because that's been a desirable thing about the line since the A100. People are just starting to notice Sony's color now, because the A900 has gotten their cameras in better photographer's hands.

    D3/D700 plus A900 sounds like a pretty sweet setup to me, Marc



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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post

    Canon L kills Nikon for Primes from 35mm on up ... except for maybe the 100 VR Macro (but only because of the VR). Canon 35/1.4L, 50/1.2L, 85/1.2-IIL, 135/2L ... all top performing workhorse focal lengths with no real counterpart from Nikon, not one.
    I think you should add the 24mmL II to the list. I have used that lens for some weeks and it is outstanding, at least on level with my 35L. And it has the new nano coating

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arne Hvaring View Post
    I think you should add the 24mmL II to the list. I have used that lens for some weeks and it is outstanding, at least on level with my 35L. And it has the new nano coating
    I didn't add that one because I've not used it ... the old 24/1.4L wasn't as good as the 35/1.4 ... but maybe, as you say, this one is.

    Have to admit that the Nikon Zooms kill their Canon counterparts up to 70mm.

    But this is a Sony thread ... so ... come on Zeiss ... an AZ 28/2 would be heaven.

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    Yes, a few more high-quality Zeiss primes would make the transition to Sony tempting.

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    Honestly, they should just allow ZA versions of all the ZF lenses. That alone would tip the balance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carstenw View Post
    Honestly, they should just allow ZA versions of all the ZF lenses. That alone would tip the balance.
    No kidding, that would be awesome. Unfortunately, I doubt that will happen, because I don't think Sony will want a manual Zeiss range to compete with their own. The upside may be that the ZA lenses are newer designs. At least there are a few ZS lenses that can be used on Sony.

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    I don't see the competition as being too serious. Few will want manual focus lenses, so it would simply boost their stature in the pro/advanced amateur circles.
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    I hear you, but I don't believe that any of the ZF/ZK/ZE lenses are authorized by their respective camera companies, and it would be odd if Zeiss circumvented approval from Sony to develop such a line while still being under contract with them for the ZA line.

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    Re: A900 shooters having fun while D3x users are not

    I should add that I hope that I'm wrong and Zeiss does bring those ZF lenses to Sony In the meantime, there was a Zeiss prime that Sony was showing as a prototype up until last fall, and I'm hoping its still in the works. ZA 24mm 1.4 maybe??



    Here is another, prime that they were showing as well that may or may not be Zeiss:



    The 70-300G, 70-400G, 24-70ZA, and 16-35ZA were also included in these lens displays, and they are obviously a reality now. The two lenses above (and a few things at the long end) are all that are left from the original display, so maybe they're coming soon? fingers crossed...
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    From what I'm seeing and hearing it looks like Sony has a real winner in the A900, every owner seems to be genuinely satisfied with the camera and the system lenses.
    I'm not totally satisfied. Actually I'm hugely disappointed with a couple of things. I've used this camera quit a bit over the last few months. I've shot some personal work for an exhibit, an annual report and a series of work for corporate ads and print material. Image quality is just fine. I have nothing to complain about. The camera can be a huge pain in the butt to use at times. The focus points are all too close to the centre and that flash mount is beyond stupid. The whole world has a standard for the hot shoe but Sony has to throw their own design at us so that we all have to use an adapter for everything that anyone else makes. No excuse will satisfy me. This is a pro grade DSLR, it should act like.
    The Zeiss 135 I purchased now has a loose front ring. Come on! This is a Zei$$ lens. This should not fall apart in a few month of work. Love the quality of the glass, disappointed with build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by douglasf13 View Post
    I hear you, but I don't believe that any of the ZF/ZK/ZE lenses are authorized by their respective camera companies, and it would be odd if Zeiss circumvented approval from Sony to develop such a line while still being under contract with them for the ZA line.
    Ok, Douglas. I asked Zeiss directly sometime ago:

    Q: Any plans to offer Zeiss manual focus lenses for Sony Alpha mount?
    A: At the moment, we will concentrate with the manual focus lenses for ZF/ZE/ZK and ZS mount.

    Q: Are there any more ZA lenses coming in the future?
    A: All lenses for the Sony Alpha system, including the Carl Zeiss ZA lenses, are manufactured and distributed by our partner Sony. Please contact Sony directly regarding requests for future products.
    M262 ZM 25/2.8 35/1.4 50/2 85/2

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    It can only be Zeiss, the finish and focusing ring are typical.

    Also from the flatness of the front element and the compact shape, we can deduce it is a short telephoto lens. Since they offer already an 85 and a 135, this could only be a......... 100 Makro-Planar

    Quote Originally Posted by douglasf13 View Post

    Here is another, prime that they were showing as well that may or may not be Zeiss:

    M262 ZM 25/2.8 35/1.4 50/2 85/2

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    No Edward, it's a 35 f:/1.4 and a 50 f:/1.2 for sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eoin View Post
    No Edward, it's a 35 f:/1.4 and a 50 f:/1.2 for sure
    M262 ZM 25/2.8 35/1.4 50/2 85/2

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    It is too long to be a 50/1.4, so that is a joke for sure, but the Zeiss 35/2 is about this size and shape, isn't it?
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    Carsten, I said 50 f:/1.2

    Look at the sony 35 f:/1.4 v's this mock up,
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    And the 50's.

    It just a guess.
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    I went to meet John Milich today at Calumet in NYC to pick up the 14-24 (Nikon) lens I bought from him. Was then going to head to Sony Style store in NY since B&H is closed. Well turns out the Sony rep was spending the day at Calumet.

    I pick up the A900 and what lens is attached????? of course you know what's coming. It was the 135 f1.8 It took a couple of seconds for me to be in lust and about a minute later it was love (even if it is a BIG hunk of glass).

    Some questions for the users. How much do you use the preview function (where it takes the shot and you can adjust your settings and see the impact). Seemed very cool and pretty useful.

    Can the 135 be used with a teleconverter? Anyone tried it? Does the image quality suffer a lot.

    Anyone shoot in the APS-c size with a full frame lens? Any metering reason to ever do this? What does shooting in the 6mp mode do?

    I know most people are using the 70-300. Anyone tried the 70-400?

    Kit suggestions....let's start with an Iceland kit where I need wide and long and midrange is not so important.

    By the way other things I loved about the camera...
    The buttons/dials seemed easier for my hand to access than the Nikon buttons.
    The menus are WAY less confusing
    It felt pretty light with a small 50 prime
    The viewfinder is huge
    The lenses go on and off in the "correct" direction

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    If you want more on the 70-400 - the best tele zoom I have ever owned - go to

    http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7150

    It is truly a fantastic lens.

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    Thanks Bill,

    I will be at B&H tomorrow and will check out the two lenses 70-300 and 70-400. Arrggh why am I doing this to myself I said I was happy with my current gear in that thread.

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