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    What a great thread... it's like the a900 club having a meeting around the newly initiated.

    Let me tell you something... I shot my second wedding with the a900 yesterday (as a second shooter). Unlike the first wedding I shot, this one was in very bright conditions and I am simply gobsmacked by the files. The whole day was ISO 640 and under... most at 400 or 200. I'm seriously considering postponing my foray into medium format for a bit longer and just investing in a bunch of great glass (and a new computer ) until I can afford an MF system with an appreciable resolution increase over the a900.

    The files don't have quite the "bite" of even a 22mp db... but they definitely have the "look" at times.

    Terry, I'm glad you've started this thread. It's nice to see discussions about everything from lenses, to UniWB, to arca plates.

    As far as UniWb. I use is soley as a way to cram my histogram as far right as is possible in situations where exposure is critical. I had a situation yesterday where a bride had a llloooonnnngggggg walk to the alter... outside... and I took a quick uniwb shot with intelligent preview. I was then able to alter settings in manual and shoot the whole procession with as much ETTR as possible while still keeping detail in the dress. Again... just a means to an ends.

    Anywho, I'm rambling on... but thanks to all for the contributions. I've had a great 3 weeks with my a900 and I can't wait to see where this all goes.

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    Do you also attach a neck strap to you camera when L-plate is mounted? What I like about Camdapter is that both straps are on separate sides and neck strap just freely hangs when not needed and doesn't get in my way. Best solution for me would be completely (without any hanging parts left) and quickly detachable neck strap though - I'm trying not use them at all because my neck hates any kind of load and gives me headaches, but I need it as a shoulder strap sometimes.
    Andrey, the RRS L plate doesn't offer a double-lug situation like the Camdapter plates. If I use a shoulder/neck strap I like the camera to be hanging horizontally (not like the Camdapter solution), so what I really need is an easily detached shoulder/neck strap that can share the top-right lug. One way is to have a split ring on the hand/wrist strap, but that's not perfect either. I'm thinking of sewing a slot in the top of the wrist strap webbing to accommodate attaching both when needed.

    I like to completely remove the parts of the shoulder strap when I'm not wanting it. Rather than leaving straps hanging as in the Op-tech solution.

    Hope that clarifies a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelby Lewis View Post
    What a great thread... it's like the a900 club having a meeting around the newly initiated.
    And what's really great is that those of us who don't shoot this kit can feel welcome too. Thank you.

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    Hi Terry
    I have come in late on this thread, as I was away over the week-end.

    Congrats on your A900 and getting to grips with it so quickly. Like Jono, I like to keep things as simple as possible. The AEL toggle set up is great rather than just using it as a "press and hold" button.

    I took Jono's advice and switched from using AWB to daylight for all outside and some inside shots.............it has made a huge difference.

    I do use the vertical grip and find the hand strap perfect with this set up.....the batteries just seem to last for ever! I am also a "belt and braces type" so use it with the neckstrap attached as well!

    The A900 not only produces great colour and image quality though, it is just such fun to use. The more I use mine the more I want to go and shoot with it again! I have never experienced quite the same feeling about using a cam before. perhaps the Leica D2/Panasonic LC1 came fairly close.

    As others have said, this thread is the most informative and useful yet!
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    Another great thread in this forum!

    I only can reiterate, this is so much helpful and so much fun to read and - you never could find this mood in the LUF

    Thanks Terry for sharing all this info, I am already starting to consider to change my Canon gear with the A900 plus some Zeiss glass.

    And maybe also wait for some time before I am really ready to buy into MF with a P65+ back or similar

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    Are you sure when you shot this part of the fence on the right was not part of your frame
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    Re: New A900

    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Whoops one last bit on the 24-70 at 24mm my corners aren't perfect

    Full shot shot at f8

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    Bottom left (i bumped up the exposure to show the example)

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    F8 is just not going to cut it here with almost any lens this wide and this close. Not sure of the wind either and you also may have some movement. This is something you may have to test with everything bolted down to concrete but F11 maybe the better answer. I would imagine this lens also has lens curvature and that also can be part of this.
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    Are you sure when you shot this part of the fence on the right was not part of your frame
    The fence had abut 1/2" black iron bars. I think it was probably user error as I was at an awkward position to try and get rid of the road and not get a car in the shot.

    On the 24-70 I will find a brick wall.

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    Terry asked me to look at some of this but other than these two issue things are looking very good. I'm more concerned about the top shot than the 24-70 that is more normal issue to me. Now looking again at it look at the flag on the right side. Thats movement going on and maybe you jerking the camera even though your at 1/2500. This just maybe a fluke and maybe need to keep a eye on it
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    maybe a diffraction effect caused by one of the iron bars in the close foreground...weren't you shooting through the gate?
    looks like the entire right side has a darker tone

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    That is exactly what I am thinking John is part of the gate was in the way
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    The fence had abut 1/2" black iron bars. I think it was probably user error as I was at an awkward position to try and get rid of the road and not get a car in the shot.

    On the 24-70 I will find a brick wall.
    Now not sure about this lens per say but almost any zoom lens will have a weak focal length and usually it is either the widest or the longest. Most cases it is the widest and the 16-35 maybe a better performer at 24mm since it is in the middle of the zoom but maybe not so hot at 16 or the 35mm end. This may come down to testing a zoom to see it's good focal lengths and find out it's bad. Frankly this is pretty normal which i hate to say but optically it's hard to make a zoom perfect through the whole range especially in the wide zoom area. A lens like a 35-70 maybe a better chance at being good through the range because optically it is easier to make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Terry asked me to look at some of this but other than these two issue things are looking very good. I'm more concerned about the top shot than the 24-70 that is more normal issue to me. Now looking again at it look at the flag on the right side. Thats movement going on and maybe you jerking the camera even though your at 1/2500. This just maybe a fluke and maybe need to keep a eye on it
    Terry,

    Congrats on your new camera - looks like you've been having a good time.

    Another thing that might be going on here is that the image stabilization may be causing this. I've seen similar effects on image stabilized lenses so it could be the cameras stabilization impacting things. It would be interesting to try some shots with stabilization off and on to see how it effects the bokeh.

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    Im thinking it's an iron bar issue. I've taken pics with steady shot nearly always on for 3 years, and I've never seen that effect before.

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    I have had a few Iron Bar issues before myself , drink a few to many at the Iron bar and stagger on home. Things kind of look blurry. ROTFLMAO
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    Re: New A900

    yeah, no kidding!

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    About 1/5th of the right side of the image is considerably darker which would also indicate that something was obscuring the view.

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    Re: New A900

    Thanks. I easily accept user error!

    I went back this AM and nothing strange going on with the 135.

    More than 400 shots, and lots of messing around with the camera menus, etc. (that new camera stuff) and the battery is still chugging away.

    Here are the efforts from this AM of course it was foggy. Yesterday we set a new record low for the high temp (got that ):

    Started at the cemetery



    Not total user error the trees aren't all growing straight




    Then over towards the bridge - it took me a bit to realize what was going on in the center of the shot just to the right of the rocks.



    Talk about dangerous currents rocks and such



    And then I looked towards home to see it clearing ....I live by the Bay Bridge and now it is nice enough to sit by the pool and RTFM


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    USER ERROR

    Needs more training. LOL

    Just busting chops. I have done this before with fences
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    Looking good, too bad you got caught between real fog and clear. But certainly some good detail.
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    Re: New A900

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    I have done this before with fences
    . . . and fingers!!!

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    Yup them too. LOL
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    Re: New A900

    I like that 135. Sweet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmb_ View Post
    I like that 135. Sweet!
    Actually the shots with the headstones this AM are both from the 24-70. It is at 70mm f2.8

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    Outing myself here as well:

    Just made a change from my Canon 5D2 and some lenses to the Alpha900 and ZEISS lenses: 16-35, 24-70 and the only non Zeiss lens 70-200. Actually almost no costs for this change!

    Hope to get this by next week, so should be available for the AZ workshop in June - Yeahhhhh

    PS: please no comments, I know what I am ..... but it is a lot of fun!

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    Outing myself here as well:

    Just made a change from my Canon 5D2 and some lenses to the Alpha900 and ZEISS lenses: 16-35, 24-70 and the only non Zeiss lens 70-200. Actually almost no costs for this change!

    Hope to get this by next week, so should be available for the AZ workshop in June - Yeahhhhh

    PS: please no comments, I know what I am ..... but it is a lot of fun!
    Welcome to the A900club! Together with Zeiss lenses this is really a wonderful camera and I am definitely going to stay with this setup, however, the fact that I have several very good Contax Zeiss lenses makes me think of also buying a 5dII (with a happypageHK adapter) to be able to continue using them. Would you care to elaborate on why you abandoned the 5dII? Any particular problems? Thanks, cheers, Bob.

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    This is a good thread..learned a lot. Terry I'm interested to hear your take with side by side shots with the d700 and see if you came up with the same conclusions I did. Its a great camera and you'll make it sing. Mine laid down on me last week, Sony said they would try to do a three day turn around but missed that last Friday. That may have been to much to ask so I'm hoping for this week. Graduation is this weekend and I need it desperately. We'll see how they do.
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    Re: New A900

    Bob, you may want to consider mount conversions for your Contax lenses, and then you get stabilization with them on the A900....not to mention good skin tones.

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    Douglas, what contax lenses can accept a mount change?. Are you talking about the MF contax or C/Y or Contax N mount?.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mwalker View Post
    This is a good thread..learned a lot. Terry I'm interested to hear your take with side by side shots with the d700 and see if you came up with the same conclusions I did. Its a great camera and you'll make it sing. Mine laid down on me last week, Sony said they would try to do a three day turn around but missed that last Friday. That may have been to much to ask so I'm hoping for this week. Graduation is this weekend and I need it desperately. We'll see how they do.
    LOL- I never got around to anything side by side as I was seduced right away by the files from the A900. I haven't jacked up the ISO yet....although I rationalized away my high ISO saying I would normally use those in small sizes.

    Just from feel vs Nikon is the color change. I was always messing around with the colors and WB on the D700 whereas these new files felt so right straight away.

    It did give me pause that yours went down the day I ordered mine. Would love to hear the diagnosis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    Outing myself here as well:

    Just made a change from my Canon 5D2 and some lenses to the Alpha900 and ZEISS lenses: 16-35, 24-70 and the only non Zeiss lens 70-200. Actually almost no costs for this change!

    Hope to get this by next week, so should be available for the AZ workshop in June - Yeahhhhh

    PS: please no comments, I know what I am ..... but it is a lot of fun!
    Congrats Peter. I hope you enjoy it and don't curse this thread!

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    Eoin, I was referring C/Y contax. I believe the guy that I posted about last month, who does leica r conversions for Sony, is considering offering a c/y service, too. I've seen other conversions here and there as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by picman View Post
    Welcome to the A900club! Together with Zeiss lenses this is really a wonderful camera and I am definitely going to stay with this setup, however, the fact that I have several very good Contax Zeiss lenses makes me think of also buying a 5dII (with a happypageHK adapter) to be able to continue using them. Would you care to elaborate on why you abandoned the 5dII? Any particular problems? Thanks, cheers, Bob.
    No problems with that camera, very good and very satisfying!

    Only thing I wanted to have AF Zeiss glass and full automatic control and I also believe that Sony/Alpha is a brand to trust for the future. At least they are big enough and also committed enough.

    I was on the edge to buy more C lenses or do the move right now and so I did it because of Zeiss mainly. Talked also in length to my local dealer here and he has (only) 2 customers with Alpha 900, but both are very demanding (M8, DMR, MFDBs etc) and they like this setup.

    So I am in good hope

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Congrats Peter. I hope you enjoy it and don't curse this thread!
    Thanks Terry,

    I am sure it will be ok!

    As I maybe mentioned already, it is for sure a great combo together with Zeiss lenses and it buys me some additional time (hopefully) before I get into digital MF.

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    Sounds like another A900 on the workshop. Nice to hear and a nice chance for me to see the files and cam first hand and anyone else going, bonus Doug and I can fine tune the A900 for C1. We have a nice diverse set of gear MF Phase products P40 , P45+, P30+ and maybe P65+ and also H3 . Nikon D3x, Leica M8's, Sony A900 and Canon 5DII. Folks I still have room for 2 more.
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    Re: New A900

    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    Outing myself here as well:

    Just made a change from my Canon 5D2 and some lenses to the Alpha900 and ZEISS lenses: 16-35, 24-70 and the only non Zeiss lens 70-200. Actually almost no costs for this change!

    Hope to get this by next week, so should be available for the AZ workshop in June - Yeahhhhh

    PS: please no comments, I know what I am ..... but it is a lot of fun!
    Congratulations Peter - I hope that you find it as much a breath of fresh air as I have moving from Nikon - and Terry seems to have as well.

    Good Luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    I hope that you find it as much a breath of fresh air as I have moving from Nikon .

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    Quote Originally Posted by douglasf13 View Post
    Bob, you may want to consider mount conversions for your Contax lenses, and then you get stabilization with them on the A900....not to mention good skin tones.
    Douglas that would be just wonderful. I've been in contact with David Llado from Leitax who apparently was planning a mount conversion too. However, I have not heard from him recently. I'll verify that other address you mentioned.

    Cheers, Bob.

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    As shown in your new Avatar !!!!
    Absolutely - I suddenly realised that looking like a grumpy old man was turning me into one!
    Now I'm scruffy and cheerful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    ...Now I'm scruffy and cheerful!

    But you've gotten awful thin!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Congratulations Peter - I hope that you find it as much a breath of fresh air as I have moving from Nikon - and Terry seems to have as well.

    Good Luck
    Thanks,

    I did not find so much air when I had my 5D2, so I am hoping on this one!

    But I am pretty confident as there is Zeiss glass, which I trust!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Sounds like another A900 on the workshop. Nice to hear and a nice chance for me to see the files and cam first hand and anyone else going, bonus Doug and I can fine tune the A900 for C1. We have a nice diverse set of gear MF Phase products P40 , P45+, P30+ and maybe P65+ and also H3 . Nikon D3x, Leica M8's, Sony A900 and Canon 5DII. Folks I still have room for 2 more.
    Looking forward to how the A900 and C1 perform together

    Just a minor comment - if you are referring to my 5DII then I must say that this one will not come to the workshop. Already sold for the A900

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    We still have one coming I am pretty sure. You moved fast on the A900 .
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    We still have one coming I am pretty sure. You moved fast on the A900 .
    Well,

    I got first a great offer and second I know Zeiss glass since many years and trust it's quality and third I could crosscheck a lot of the findings I made about the A900 in other places and discussions here in this forum.

    So I am pretty sure that I did the right move

    BTW I still keep my Nikon glass for a while, so just in case they wake up and really shake the market with their next product

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    But you've gotten awful thin!
    Ah Eoin
    I always WAS awful thin (although I have to work on it since I gave up smoking 3 years ago).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Ah Eoin
    I always WAS awful thin (although I have to work on it since I gave up smoking 3 years ago).
    Why would you give up one of the pleasures of life, Jono?

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    Quote Originally Posted by edwardkaraa View Post
    Why would you give up one of the pleasures of life, Jono?

    Despite worldwide persecution, I am still a keen smoker
    HI Edward
    well, I did smoke from 14-54, and I did really enjoy it. I haven't had a puff for over 3 years now (and I do go to lots of smokey places).

    You will be pleased to hear that:

    1. I still like the smell of fresh smoke and stand close to people who do smoke
    2. when we have dinner parties at home, smokers are allowed to smoke, if others don't like it they're invited to sit near the big open fire, and the smoke goes up there.

    So, I'm in no way a born-again anti smoker . . . but, when doing anything strenuous I certainly do feel better and less breathy.

    I felt I'd had a good innings, and that getting out then might just save me from nasty things later on (hopefully I didn't leave it too late).

    Now to give up the Sauvignon blank

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    Re: New A900

    I was once, a long time ago, a medical underwriter for a life insurance company. The stats are clear - on average smokers can expect, as a group, to live 8-12 years less than non-smokers.

    Wine drinkers, on the other hand, if they do not exceed a couple of glasses a day, live slightly longer than teetotalers.

    Take your choice. Mine is a good Shiraz or Chardonnay. Seems we've been here before, in another thread....

    Bill

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    Re: New A900

    ...and if you exceed two glasses a day?.
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    ... and how about if you smoke but drink only a couple of glasses of wine a day?

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