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On the one hand; I quite agree that it would be crazy to criticise a camera based on assessment using the 'wrong' lensesMy issue was with the guy who gave clear reasons why you should buy one camera over the other, it feels absurd to me that any assumption should be made on a camera based on how it handles lenses it wasn't designed to work with, from a different era, a different manufacturer and for a different style of camera.
I'd like to do my best to take these pictures . . . .but unfortunately there isn't a single lens I can buy which is designed for the camera!As it is, I'd be happy to see this thread full of fantastic images, taken with the best lenses possible for the camera, taking full advantage of the technology at hand, processed to the users best artistic vision and displayed here to wow and amaze and inspire.
Jono, please excuse my obtuseness, thanks for posting your shots, they show clearly how great images can be produced by the camera, even with lenses that are designed for rangefinders!Hi Mat
Perhaps there is a little bit of difference in concept here.
On the one hand; I quite agree that it would be crazy to criticise a camera based on assessment using the 'wrong' lenses
However, and on the other hand. It might quite reasonably be a crucial factor in deciding whether or not to buy it.
I'd like to do my best to take these pictures . . . .but unfortunately there isn't a single lens I can buy which is designed for the camera!
One can make pretty reasonable assumptions about which lenses will work well and which won't. I've tried a 50 summilux M, a WATE, a 28-85 vario sonnar and a 60mm macro elmarit R. I expected these to work okay, and it seems that they do!
I certainly certainly wasn't accusing you of being obtuse (or anyone else). It just seemed like an argument at cross purposes, that's all.Jono, please excuse my obtuseness, thanks for posting your shots, they show clearly how great images can be produced by the camera, even with lenses that are designed for rangefinders!
Enjoy, I look forward to seeing more as you get chance to shoot.
Mat
Hi TimHere's one from today, one of my favourite subjects for exploring separation of planes. The 35 Lux FLE may have colour issues on the A7R but it is a very articulate lens and I like the results from the combination…
F2.8 old chap. I also posted a Cornerfixed version, which shows that the colour shift is quite strong but gets partially lost in the possibility of a bruised sky colour. Vignetting is strong but actually the picture looks better with at least some, I think!Hi Tim
Was that wide open? The vignetting is pretty obvious, but the colour shift doesn't look too bad (and of course, that's the tough bit)
HI TimAnd here's the same file Cornerfixed (Lord I vowed that I wasn't going to get into Cornerfixing images from this camera but I do like the lens…
F2.8 old chap. I also posted a Cornerfixed version, which shows that the colour shift is quite strong but gets partially lost in the possibility of a bruised sky colour. Vignetting is strong but actually the picture looks better with at least some, I think!
. . . . or use a different lens! I've made a vow that I'm not going to use any lens which requires this sort of work doing to it. . . . . .really! dh2Really better off shooting a LCC to fix the magenta and vignetting of these lenses. Its the most accurate way to clean it up.