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    Adobe, "All your images are ours."

    Not that bad but here's the current Photo Express EULA.

    "Use of Your Content. Adobe does not claim ownership of Your Content. However, with respect to Your Content that you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Services, you grant Adobe a worldwide, royalty-free, nonexclusive, perpetual, irrevocable, and fully sublicensable license to use, distribute, derive revenue or other remuneration from, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, publicly perform and publicly display such Content (in whole or in part) and to incorporate such Content into other Materials or works in any format or medium now known or later developed."

    Full details here:

    Adobe joins list of companies not reading own EULAs

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    Re: Adobe, "All your images are ours."

    John,
    People complained to Adobe and they relooked at the agreement and realized it was not acceptable. On both DPReview and Luminous Landscape it has been reported that Adobe is completely reworking the wording.

    Terry

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    Re: Adobe, "All your images are ours."

    They need to big time.
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    Re: Adobe, "All your images are ours."

    Though not quite as strongly worded as this, I decided against putting a page up on Uber (...and you thought there couldn't be _another_ social networking/blogging/photo sharing site...) because of this sort of cr*p. It wouldn't bother me if it was limited to internal self-promotion (Uber uses screengrabs of different profiles as part of their home page), as it is a free service, but they include language to the effect that they can assign these rights to others.

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    Re: Adobe, "All your images are ours."

    It has been this way for eons... artists scrambling for pigment/minerals workable to paint... Adobe's always been data-bound(cf. the PSD variant of the Open TIFF[Sam Leffler] format) since "Post-Script". Ellison's "Oracle", and "Quark" are simlar: "Sure, you MAY store your (raw, not RAW) data with us, BUT... we OWN the WAY it is stored.

    Time was, I'd jump up on the Open Source(now diliuted) box to say "Keep It Free". Fact is, as was, even Kodak/Ilford/Agfa knew--was it said?--"The Medium is the Message"--oh, yes, Marshall McLuhan... I digress...

    From the timber(music) of the OP: yes, Adobe has "a stake" in works produced with their software... it's legit: you would not be able to "make" the image without "thier help". Does your (truely) raw data have an out? Yes. Can(as in, are you able) you make an image from your camera's data with software that makes no ownership claims? (Hint: it's not your computer, but the software you use.)

    Nothing wrong with Adobe staking a claim, IF they are involved in the making of said work.

    Oh, and you thought "paying for their software packaging(e.g. CD)" meant you were "free" of their license? Heh... yes, "All your bases are belong to us": that is, you've been played.

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    Re: Adobe, "All your images are ours."

    Adobe has updated the language....

    "Adobe’s Rights – Adobe has retained only those limited rights that allow us to operate the service and to enable you to do all the things the service offers. If you decide to terminate your Photoshop Express account, Adobe’s rights also will be terminated. Adobe doesn’t claim ownership of your content and won’t sell your images".

    http://www.luminous-landscape.com/whatsnew/

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