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    Bought my first Zeiss lens /Biogon35 2.
    so this thread open to ALL Zeiss lenses
    A test out & about in Chinatown-NYC
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    oops /forgot to post pixs

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    OK I will take the bait. This is my new zeiss 18/4 on the M8 . With a Leica UV/IR 55mm filter and set on UV/IR hand coded as a WATE. Look how even the exposure is into the corners and the overall sharpness. Contrast was a little high for a mid day on the water shoot. This lens is a keeper ..off to DAG for coding .

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    Glenerroird / Wonderful shot
    Thank you for taking the Bait

    to my Eye....
    Some Zeiss lenses seem to have a Lovely Glow & Airiness about them
    They seem to transcend a flatness which some lenses have

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    Quote Originally Posted by helenhill View Post
    Glenerroird / Wonderful shot
    Thank you for taking the Bait

    to my Eye....
    Some Zeiss lenses seem to have a Lovely Glow & Airiness about them
    They seem to transcend a flatness which some lenses have
    I have several zeiss lenses both for the M and what I used on my 5D . Across the board they have outstanding sharpness....almost anything you view at 100% has substantial detail. They are generally higher contrast than the comparable Leica M lens although there are some exceptions. The color is a notch behind the Leica equivalent with less microcontrast. ( what I still call tone separation). I use both the WATE and the ZM18 primarily for street photography..the 18 is sharper but the WATE color is better. Huge different in price. I have the 21/2.8 which is supposed to be the" pick of the litter " out for coding and the 50/2 planar. Both are high contrast tools and great lenses. Here are a few more. sorry about my signiture ..GlenErrolRd is my street address....name is Roger

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    Roger
    I agree their sharpness is Outstanding
    but i beg to differ on Color
    I prefer the Zeiss color to Leica
    particularly when seeing it coupled w/film....WOW

    Cheers ! Helen

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    Quote Originally Posted by helenhill View Post
    Roger
    I agree their sharpness is Outstanding
    but i beg to differ on Color
    I prefer the Zeiss color to Leica
    particularly when seeing it coupled w/film....WOW

    Cheers ! Helen
    Who can quarrel with the way a zeiss lens renders ? When I compare them head to head in situations relevant to my shooting(yours may differ) . Sometimes I prefer the leica M and others the Zeiss ZM . One you should try is the 50/2 planar ...if you are looking for resolution,contrast and color saturation....its right there with the very best lenses regardless of costs. At $6-700 what a deal. The only downside I have identified is that its a pain to get them coded. For many of the wide angles you have to change out the mount and then address the 6bit .

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    Roger
    I will look into the Planar/50 ....THANK YOU for the Tip
    Today i bought the summarit 50/1.5
    its lovely the oof (will post a pix under the thread 'lenses w/character' , I think YOU started )
    BUT i do think I'm a real Zeiss gal

    There is a fellow on RFF / goes by the name 'Avotius' aka Colin
    His work with Zeiss lenses /Zeiss IIkon Body or M body & Film
    is Outstanding......Check out his thread & critique on"More Zeiss 50 Planar' and his shots of a trip to China with that lens...Breathtaking and he's only 23 yrs old

    Best-H

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    Quote Originally Posted by helenhill View Post
    Roger
    I will look into the Planar/50 ....THANK YOU for the Tip
    Today i bought the summarit 50/1.5
    its lovely the oof (will post a pix under the thread 'lenses w/character' , I think YOU started )
    BUT i do think I'm a real Zeiss gal

    There is a fellow on RFF / goes by the name 'Avotius' aka Colin
    His work with Zeiss lenses /Zeiss IIkon Body or M body & Film
    is Outstanding......Check out his thread & critique on"More Zeiss 50 Planar' and his shots of a trip to China with that lens...Breathtaking and he's only 23 yrs old

    Best-H
    Helen I think sean reid writes about this in each of his lens tests..."its about how the lens draws". The summitar and the planar are just about the opposite ends of whats available. I look at the summitar examples and see highlights that glow and smooth OF areas ..the planar is the opposite....no flare , incredible sharpness,contrast and saturation. Having lenses that draw differently (even with the same FOV) just gives you options.

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    at heart
    its sharpness & high contrast / saturation I want
    particularly in the Modern Day World

    BUT yes on some occasion I may want the draw to be dreamy & moody
    Best to You-H

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    Zeiss & the Street.....

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    Zeiss and the tug. Hasselbald Zeiss 50mm CFi Distagon (and 503CWD-II). This tug was several hundred yards away from me and it's a small section of the total image.

    I love Zeiss glass. They made exceptional lenses for telescopes too. I've had some incredible views of star clusters, planets, galaxies etc with a friend's 5 inch aperture Zeiss telescope...which compares very well with much larger telescopes we've used.

    Gary Benson
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    They really do have an incredible 3D rendition, that kid in helen's shot looks like she's jumping out off the picture.
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    Gary
    Great shot BUT what are they pumping into that water...its GREY!!!

    Do Love ZEISS GLASS
    in Greenwich Connecticut today

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    Re: Zeiss Lenses.......

    Quote Originally Posted by helenhill View Post
    Gary
    Great shot BUT what are they pumping into that water...its GREY!!!

    Do Love ZEISS GLASS
    in Greenwich Connecticut today
    I love your Zeiss glass photos Helen. I'm not familiar with the Zeiss Biogon lens you bought...what camera are you using it on?

    That grey water....well, that's we've got up here in southcentral Alaska (Cook Inlet, to be precise). The entire inlet is like that....it's glacial silt flowing down from the Matanuska, Knik and other rivers that flow into the inlet....from the glaciers up in the mountains to the east of Anchorage. That's why our "beaches" are really just huge mud flats. So those boats aren't pumping anything nasty into the water (at least, they'd better not be!)....that's the water nature has brought us.....filled with silt.

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    Hi All,

    Well I dont own any Zeiss lenses but that is not because I have any quibbes with them. There are some wonderful shots here.

    Helen,

    I love the bokeh in the last shot you posted, which lens was that with please?

    And talking of contrast, the country scence is quite a change from Midtown! Looks nice.

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    Thank you Gary& Ed

    I'm using my RD1s
    and LUSTING for the ZEISS IIKON /film camera

    I am having a SERIOUS debate in my Mind to shoot Film /I do realize the hassle
    but when i look at B&W and Color ...FILM is Absolutely Rich,Lush & Beautiful.....

    Check out at RFF OR Flickr, a young man whose avatar is 'Avotius' aka Colin
    His work is so Magnificent...be it Leica M film or Zeiss IIkon
    His photographs of China are utterly Mod, Hip & breathtaking
    be it w/ the 35 Cron 3rd Edt, OR Zeiss Glass /all film / an occasional GRD shot too
    To Die For !! He has two threads critiques on zeiss 28 lens & the 50 planar

    Love to All
    H.

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    I've used Zeiss optics on anything I can bolt them onto. Had more Zeiss glass than any other over the years. First with film on a Contax, and Hasselbald ... then adapted them my Canons ... and one of the REAL reasons I swapped from Canon to a Nikon D3/D700 was to take advantage of the Zeiss ZF optics ... 25/2,8, 28/2, 50/2 Macro, 100/2 Macro, and now the 35/2 plus 85/1.4 are on order.

    For the high ISO cameras, the flair suppression is nice with most Zeiss glass. Here are a couple of Zeiss shots done a very high ISOs on a Canon 1DsMKII.
    The Pub shot was Zeiss 85/1.4 @ ISO 3200. The Zeiss 28/2 interior shot was the very last Sunday Brunch at the Plaza, NYC before it went private
    Last edited by fotografz; 20th October 2008 at 01:20.

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    Fotografz / is it aka 'Mark'

    I am Totally hooked on Zeiss Glass.....great Shots for pusjhing the limit /iso wise
    Your Pix at the Plaza was in the Palm Court / It was a Lovely spot to have Tea & Sweets or a Cocktail

    At present I'm considering an old rolleiflex w/ the 80 planar...I'm whacking out

    best- h

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    Gotta laugh Helen .... "I am having a SERIOUS debate in my Mind to shoot Film /I do realize the hassle
    but when i look at B&W and Color ...FILM is Absolutely Rich,Lush & Beautiful....."

    I was having the same debate...choosing between a Nikon D700 or a Plaubel Makina 670..... The Plaubel won my heart.... Now my bathroom is turning into a darkroom ... Enlarger and all the stuff that goes with it ...... and there is plenty of stuff ... Could of been so simple ...Mac Book pro a printer and the Nikon D 700 lol ; ) ...... I am understanding now the hassle of which you spoke....... Whacking out for sure ; )

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    Quote Originally Posted by helenhill View Post
    Fotografz / is it aka 'Mark'

    I am Totally hooked on Zeiss Glass.....great Shots for pusjhing the limit /iso wise
    Your Pix at the Plaza was in the Palm Court / It was a Lovely spot to have Tea & Sweets or a Cocktail

    At present I'm considering an old rolleiflex w/ the 80 planar...I'm whacking out

    best- h
    Yes Helen, Fotografz = Marc.

    I used that Zeiss 35/2 on a chrome Leica MP3 before swapping the film camera for a M8. Lovely lens

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    Zeiss ZF 50 macro @ f/2.8:



    This is one of my favorite fifties for sure.

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    Beautiful....Little Man at his Best - HAPPY!
    Crisp Foreground /Delicate dreamy background

    H

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    2 from the zm 50/1.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShiroKuro View Post
    Gotta laugh Helen .... "I am having a SERIOUS debate in my Mind to shoot Film /I do realize the hassle
    but when i look at B&W and Color ...FILM is Absolutely Rich,Lush & Beautiful....."

    I was having the same debate...choosing between a Nikon D700 or a Plaubel Makina 670..... The Plaubel won my heart.... Now my bathroom is turning into a darkroom ... Enlarger and all the stuff that goes with it ...... and there is plenty of stuff ... Could of been so simple ...Mac Book pro a printer and the Nikon D 700 lol ; ) ...... I am understanding now the hassle of which you spoke....... Whacking out for sure ; )
    WOW!! I looked up that camera
    Quite Fab & PURRfect for the Pocket
    but is it hard to find this Jewel ?
    would love to see your pixs with this cam
    i can see how ir Won your heart....I Want,I Want

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    Quote Originally Posted by helenhill View Post
    Beautiful....Little Man at his Best - HAPPY!
    Crisp Foreground /Delicate dreamy background

    H
    Thanks Helen!

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    Back Alley
    Stunning.... The Tones are Fab
    The sonnar is DIVINE
    Do you prefer it to the Planar? (aside from speed)
    Cheers! H

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    i do prefer it to the planar, i'm not a big user of the 50 mm focal length but i think of the sonnar as a 'specialty' lens. i love the look of the images it produces. i had the planar and it is an incredibly sharp lens but i kept the sonnar.

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    Helen -- the Sonnar can be tricky on the R-D1 but i'm about to be the guinea pig to see if it's doable (i only played with it at the very beginning so maybe it's much less tricky that i remember). IMO, it's a very special lens! but it's got an older style draw (which i love!) and you've been talking about wanting a very modern look. in that case, the Planar is more what you're looking for and the focusing seems spot on.

    btw, saw this review on the 18mm Zeiss and thought of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cam View Post
    Helen -- the Sonnar can be tricky on the R-D1 but i'm about to be the guinea pig to see if it's doable (i only played with it at the very beginning so maybe it's much less tricky that i remember). IMO, it's a very special lens! but it's got an older style draw (which i love!) and you've been talking about wanting a very modern look. in that case, the Planar is more what you're looking for and the focusing seems spot on.

    btw, saw this review on the 18mm Zeiss and thought of you.
    R

    Thanxs Cam for your Thoughts & Review

    It is True, overall pixs for myself I LUV Mod and then for Tres Cool & Moody I LUV Old lenses......
    whereas when I look at other people's work I adore Old World/lenses

    Just got the Canon 35 /1.8 & its Charming ....the way it draws B&W is Stunning /alot more midtones of greys coupled w/the B&W
    whereas I Absolutely Adre Color w/Zeiss
    I can see why Sean recommended the Old canon lenses

    Best- H

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    Quote Originally Posted by helenhill View Post
    R
    It is True, overall pixs for myself I LUV Mod and then for Tres Cool & Moody I LUV Old lenses......
    whereas when I look at other people's work I adore Old World/lenses

    Just got the Canon 35 /1.8 & its Charming ....the way it draws B&W is Stunning /alot more midtones of greys coupled w/the B&W
    whereas I Absolutely Adre Color w/Zeiss
    I can see why Sean recommended the Old canon lenses
    oooooooooooooooh -- i am jealous beyond words! i've only found really slow ones here...

    take a look at this flickr set as it gives the "look" of the Sonnar at different apertures. it will give you a good idea about the draw. (btw, Jono was the first person to gush about this lens so you might want to search some back threads here.)

    the best set of photos taken with this lens, IMO, is by Salmonpink. his shots are just stunning, both colour and black and white.

    the more i look at, the more i think it combines the old (wider apertures) with the mod (stopped down). it is most definitely a distinctive lens!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cam View Post
    Helen -- the Sonnar can be tricky on the R-D1 but i'm about to be the guinea pig to see if it's doable (i only played with it at the very beginning so maybe it's much less tricky that i remember). IMO, it's a very special lens! but it's got an older style draw (which i love!) and you've been talking about wanting a very modern look. in that case, the Planar is more what you're looking for and the focusing seems spot on.

    btw, saw this review on the 18mm Zeiss and thought of you.
    I had the Zeiss 18mm with the M8 and it is a brilliant lens. Extremely sharp and with the RD-1 might be a great choice also. Helen do a search here on the Zeiss 18mm . I have a thread that i started awhile back on it.

    Hope all is well Cam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by helenhill View Post
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    Thanxs Cam for your Thoughts & Review

    It is True, overall pixs for myself I LUV Mod and then for Tres Cool & Moody I LUV Old lenses......
    whereas when I look at other people's work I adore Old World/lenses

    Just got the Canon 35 /1.8 & its Charming ....the way it draws B&W is Stunning /alot more midtones of greys coupled w/the B&W
    whereas I Absolutely Adre Color w/Zeiss
    I can see why Sean recommended the Old canon lenses

    Best- H
    Hi Helen
    What I love about the 1.5 sonnar (probably my most used lens on the M8) is that it is both an old fashioned AND a modern lens.

    At f1.5 it's dreamy and soft, with veiling flare, and not unlike the Leica 50 f1. By f2.8 it's sharper, and by f5.6 it's just what you expect from a modern Zeiss lens.

    and it's small. . . . . . and it isn't too expensive . . . . . just buy one

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    i agree with jano, the sonnar 1.5 is like 2 lenses in one.

    have you tried a canon 35/2.8 on your drf? it is a lovely old lens, makes the 35/1.8 look 'modern'.

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    hey Joe
    Funny enough I did just buy a Canon
    the 35 / 1.8
    its Lovely .....center crisp ,soft on the edges,quick to focus, beautiful color although NOT as Divine as the Zeiss color wise, & B&W beautiful range in tonality
    Is the 2.8 soooo much more ????
    I will have to LOOK at flickr
    You've got me in a Tizzy
    Lenses can drive you MAD

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    Does anyone have some images from the ZF 85mm f1.4 or the 35mm f2 to share?

    I'm thinking about picking up one or the other of these.......trying to fill a couple of glaring gaps in my lineup of manual focus Nikon mount lenses. I still enjoy shooting with the F3HP from time to time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bensonga View Post
    Does anyone have some images from the ZF 85mm f1.4 or the 35mm f2 to share?

    I'm thinking about picking up one or the other of these.......trying to fill a couple of glaring gaps in my lineup of manual focus Nikon mount lenses. I still enjoy shooting with the F3HP from time to time.

    Gary Benson
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    hi Gary
    here are a few FUN pixs I shot at Coney Island
    'ZEISS GOES TO CONEY ISLAND' : the 35/2 Biogon on RD1s.....

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    Couldn't resist with one more ....35/2 Zeiss biogon
    Best -H

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    Wonderful images Helen! Thanks so much for posting these. Is this the Zeiss ZM 35/f2 Biogon lens? The one that fits on cameras with a Leica M-type rangerfinder mount? I noticed that the 35/f2 Zeiss SLR lenses, like the ZF/Nikon mount, are called Distagons, not Biogons. I suppose this must be a different lens design or something. In any case, I really like the 35mm focal length and it's one I would use alot, so this will be the top of my list....before the 85mm.

    Thanks again!

    Gary

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