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    Good luck Jack and get well soon!!!

    Jack just wanted to wish you good luck today on your surgery for sleep apnea and hope for a speedy recovery. May you be able to count Lux's in your sleep again soon.
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    Re: Good luck Jack and get well soon!!!

    Best wishes Jack and a very speedy recovery. All the best to you.

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    Re: Good luck Jack and get well soon!!!

    Jack,

    Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

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    Re: Good luck Jack and get well soon!!!

    My understanding is most of the optional surgery for sleep apena includes a painful recovery - hope yours isn't one of them!

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    Re: Good luck Jack and get well soon!!!

    I had this done several years ago and it IS a nasty recovery. By the time Jack reads this hopefully that part will be over but my wife was NOT a happy camper taking care of me and i admit i was not a very nice patient. It hurt like hell
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    Re: Good luck Jack and get well soon!!!

    Best wishes for an easy recovery, Jack.

    When you're feeling all better and ready to go out again, drop me a line and we'll plan another coffee hour!

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    Re: Good luck Jack and get well soon!!!

    Best of luck, Jack
    I'm headed for that process too I am afraid.
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    Every time I've asked my sleep doc's about the various surgery options they all tell me the surgery is 50% effective on most all who try… What did you guys have done (or are considering having done in Bob's case)?

    --M.

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    Re: Good luck Jack and get well soon!!!

    If i could spell it i would tell ya. LOL

    I had my throat lasered they cut the uvula ,. Description here

    Sometimes the uvula (that soft tissue hovering from the soft palate over the back of your tongue) and throat muscles become swollen, causing an obstruction when you breathe. The swelling is often resultant from nasal blockage. People suffering from nasal polyps often breathe through their mouth, pressing the uvula against the palate, causing it to swell.

    Than they did a Deviated nasal septum and fixed that . Description to fix

    Corrective surgery may consist of reconstruction of the nasal septum by repositioning the nasal septal cartilage, thus relieving the nasal obstruction. Other surgical procedures include rhinoplasty to correct nasal structure deformity and septoplasty to relieve nasal obstruction and enhance cosmetic appearance.

    Jack is having the same as i did several years ago but i was outpatient and he is spending the night, lucky him.

    I had liquid pain killers that was supposed to last 3 days, i had it gone in 12 hours. That is how much pain I was in. My wife had to beg the doctor for more. Hopefully spending the night Jack will have it much better , i certainly hope so.
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    I've had three sinus surgeries - which casued my sleep apena. One of those had me using the liquid painkiller; powerful stuff - but like you it went quick with me. My ENT doc suggested a uvulaectomy (sp?) to help with both the sleep apena and some of my sinus issues. But the value of multiple opnions had the sleep doctor over rulling the ENT on the grounds that it would not be effective for me on the sleep side of things. >sigh<

    Thanks Guy, this was helpful...

    -- M.
    Last edited by MrSlezak; 27th December 2007 at 18:59.

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    Ahhh the pain of sleeping with someone else. Hey what's a little snoring?

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    Well it helped cure the sleep apnea but i still snore and wake up during the night but that is me with other issues of insomnia. My issues are most likely weight and i still smoke although I have cut down a great deal still trying to quit this STUPID habit.

    But sleep apnea is very dangerous because your heart actually stops and your body wakes up to kick start it. Basic description but a sleep test is something that should be done to see how bad you are. Not a doctor but that test does help figure out your issues.
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    I have both sleep apnea & insomnia so I live life like I'm in jet lag... It does have its advantages but they are few and very far between...

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    Jack I truly hope the surgery relieves all your symptoms but in my case the ENT said the use of a CPAP machine is the "gold standard" in treatment and that was the method I chose. It has been the best thing I ever did for my sleep and it is painless. For all you fellas still having issues please consider trying it, it does work as advertised! My machine was covered by insurance and it travels with me on road trips for work as needed. It can be carried on any plane as it is considered medical equipment and does not count against your carry on limit. Good luck to all.

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    Not to turn this in to a medical thread or CPAP support forum, but I got my first CPAP in 1992, after one of my sinus surgeries and here’s a quick upside/downside of my CPAP usage

    Upsides of CPAP
    - Get sleep needed and can function
    - Whoever sleeps with you doesn't have to hear you snore/shake bed/etc

    Downsides
    - Requires you to sleep near power
    -- CPAPs do not work when there is no power (e.g. backpacking/camping, power outage) and the battery pack options are not great
    - Traveling with a CPAP is a hassle
    -- Hotels do not always have power near the bed, so I travel with an extension cord
    -- While CPAPs continue to get smaller and more compact, even the smallest of them still the size of a stack of paperback books (better than the phone book size my first one was for sure!)
    -- The mask and tubing takes requires luggage space as well
    -- Traveling with CPAP in suitcase runs risk of lost luggage traveling with this in carry-on in addition to juggling a carry-on for camera, lenses and laptop

    - Sleeping with someone vs. alone
    -- Whoever sleeps with you, sleeps with your back to them - unless they like a breeze from the outflow

    The upsides outweigh the downsides by far, and I hope this doesn’t come across as an anti-CPAP endorsement but if I could move forward without needing a CPAP life would be much different for travel (personal and business,) sleeping for my wife, etc…

    -- M.

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    Re: Good luck Jack and get well soon!!!

    Good news just got a e-mail from Jack he is home and resting up. Seems everything went well but was uncomfortable last night. He should be on tomorrow when feeling a little more chipper.
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    Re: Good luck Jack and get well soon!!!

    Jack,

    Best wishes for a speedy (and painless!) recovery.


    My first long term GF in college told me I had sleep apnea. She was sleeping with her head on my chest, and I stopped breathing; which woke her up. Within 20 (?) seconds or so, I started breathing again, and everything seemed okay, so she went back to sleep and told me the next morning.

    I've done an O2 sat. monitor and the levels came back okay; so here is hoping!

    The worst part for me about sleep apnea is just the lack of deep sleep I get because of it; and the resulting fatigue associated with the lack of a good nights sleep.

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    Hi Guys, and thanks for all the good wishes. I had the surgery yesterday morning and wish I could say the recovery has been easy --- unfortunatley it's about the worst thing I've ever had done to me and really painful. The problem is the pain is great and your nasal passages are totally swollen shut and your throat is so swollen that it actually causes more severe apnea. Because of that, they can't give you strong enough meds to kill the pain, lest you'd also fall into a deep sleep and NOT wake yourself out of an apnea spasm and you'd die. So bottom line is you get liquid tylenol for the worst sore throat you can possibly imagine. And since your nose is swollen shut you can only breath through your mouth, which gets dry and you have to sip water to keep it moist and swallowing those sips is major pain... I have not been asleep for more than about a one hour stretch in the past 36 hours. But, already now is a lot better --- still cannot breathe though my nose, but swallowing pain is down.

    Re the C-PAP. My doc is one of the leading sleep specialists in the country --- Dr Kasey Li in Palo Alto. Anyway, he likes the C-PAP but knows most men will not use it, so the best course of attack is this surgery plus a relatively new dental device you wear at night --- basically invisiline braces that are hinged in such a way that it holds your lower jaw forward. This device coupled with the surgery opens up enough room (at least in my case) that it should alleviate the apnea. The other considerable factor for apnea is weight --- I did not have the problem to my knowledge 25 pounds ago, so it may be that my case is less severe than others.

    I'll keep you all posted and thanks again for the kind thoughts!
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    Ouch, sounds like quite an ordeal... Here's to a speedy recovery!

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    Jack,

    Just read this thread and wanted to give you my best for a speedy recovery and while I'm at it, a happy and healthier NEW YEAR ! Hope we can hook up somewhere in 2008, but if not, I'll certainly be lurking here.

    Best Wishes,

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    I also am just reading the thread.

    Best wishes to you and a hopes for a speedy recovery.

    Best,

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    What a trooper! I tried to register last night and had some issues doing it. Finally this morning the administrator emailed me back and was going to manually load all my stuff to get me going. That person was Jack. That kind of dedication puts the postman to shame. Rain, snow,sleet, or sleep apnea surgery will keep Jack from his post. Thanks alot Jack. Steve

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    Thanks you all for your outstanding support! I am just amazed at how an online forum has become like a second family --- this is truly a special group and I am honored to be part of it with you Quick update, I am doing *MUCH* better today. Pain is finally way down, nose is clearing and I actually slept some real sleep last night! I am going to try and eat some solid (soft solid) food today and am looking forward to that!

    thanks again for the support!
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    Good news bud , give me a call when you get a chance and can actually talk . BIG football day and I have been real lazy watching football lately.
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    I hope you get well soon Jack..happy new year. My father had this problem, he said fixing it was liberating. Good luck.
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    Hi Jack:
    Here's wishing you a speedy recovery as well. I've had two friends who had the throat surgery and both noticed a world of difference quickly. (I've been using a CPAP for about a year but I spent so much time snorkeling as a kid that I didn't have an issue with the mask at all.)

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    Wow.. Jack.. sorry to hear about that. I had no idea you were having that done. Good luck and a speedy recovery.

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    Re: Good luck Jack and get well soon!!!

    Just found this thread- Jack, I hope you're on the mend and feeling better!

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    Re: Good luck Jack and get well soon!!!

    Hi guys, and thanks for all the kind thoughts! I am definitely on the mend, but it is a slow process. My throat is still sore, but only about like a normal bad sore throat with a cold, so I can swallow liquids almost normally, but still avoid rough or crunchy foods. I am optimistic that by this time next week, I'll back to normal

    As far as sleep progress, swelling is down and I'm back to sleeping normally for me --- and my wife tells me my snoring is less often and light when I do, so a big improvement at least on that front. It will be a few more weeks before I'm able to use the new dental device and report in its effectiveness.

    Thanks again!
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