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    Re: When is a picture / post NSFW or just an environmental picture?

    Quote Originally Posted by alajuela View Post
    I have done a search of this page and the first reference I saw to the word orthodox was from Anna T - Nowhere else
    If I am not mistaken, earlier Ben was referring to betrayal of beliefs and ethics when "being forced" to look at nudes. Right? Wrong?

    That was how I understood him, and that is undoubtly part of the orthodox, but also sometimes within views of conservative Judaism.

    That being said, of course I have no objections whatsoever against anyone practising such concept of, as they would describe it, "modesty", be it orthodox or conservative in origin.

    My point was that in my opinion this is a strictly private matter and can not be expected to be accommodated on an international stage as such for the above explained reasons.

    Any form of content censorship or content handling remains the perogative of the keepers of the house of course, and last time I looked, everyone is welcomed here as Guy said rightly. In my understanding GetDPI is about photography, a thriving and truly friendly community.

    I think when entering and participating in such an international public place it would be helpful to lay down consecrated views and/or underlying supernatural punishment concepts, and again, they are private views, and this privateness btw. is the very same concept of that "modesty" that demands not to be confronted with nudity of any sorts.

    Otherwise "you" - as in the forum keepers - find yourself in a position where you are expected to accomodate for many of such beliefs and demands.

    Taboo is the term that might best describe such demand. So what is Taboo on GetDPI and what is not? I am not the Kepper of the house here, and I can only share with you what my understanding and experience on GetDPI so far would consist of.

    Nothing is taboo here so far, except clear cut and interdenominational red lines we all would accept such as child abuse, violence on purpose to glorify such, etc.

    My case still rests.
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    Was trying not get in this but let's see if I can at least answer on behave of the staff. Even though we are US based as owners, mods and such we are a global community as members. So we view this as a open forum on a global level and keep a very open mind on culture, people, views , religion, politics and frankly common decency on a global level. We have in place a NSFW forum in place for those artist and viewers to participate. This is also upon registration a adult site as well, so we don't expect kids on here to begin with. With that in mind we avoid any type of censorship for a global community. We do avoid and not allow anything we feel is illegal but more important we go by what's logical and what makes the most sense to us on what is posted on a Global level. Now running a forum based on logic, common sense does ultimately include some form of censorship. There is just not getting around it, for example if it even resembles porno it's deleted immediately. These are judgement , common sense and logical calls that we have to make regardless of censorship. There is just no way of getting around it. If something is posted that someone feels they don't like or against there culture than you simply turn the channel on it. We are not trying to be a dictatorship on content as that is not global viewing of this site and its content. Almost always this is never been a issue with members as I feel we do a good job of keeping the place friendly and content safe for our global community.

    Now when we are dealing with ART in almost any form of it than in most cases it's almost anything goes as ART is by definition a form of expressing ones artistic endeavors. No one here for instance will tell you what to shoot but we will tell you if it fits the guidelines of the community. No porn for example. I'm not trying to play the ART card here just like I'm not trying to play the Religious or Politics card either but if we feel it's not in the best interest we discuss it , decide on it and make the call. That is our right as owners and mods. But it always will be based on what's best for the community. Bottom line that's GetDPI
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Almost always this is never been a issue with members as I feel we do a good job of keeping the place friendly and content safe for our global community.
    Very much so Guy, to me personally, in this crazy internet realm of photography fora, GetDPI is the only photography forum left that I visit regulary, and where I "feel home" and where even friendships developed over time. So yes, stellar job in deed and btw., off topic, thanks for your Canon T/S thread, you have me contemplating now which bank to rob! Arghhh.

    Hmm, here is a better idea, I just open a bank.

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    If you do I can than burn my ski mask and go legal and borrow money. ROTFLMAO

    My big concern here is not having people leave. We are supposed to be having fun with our art and our photography. I hate religious, political topics as they just never turn out well at all.


    On another note I'm having fun with the 17 TSE . When I get back home I'll continue with some images from it. It's early here in California and I may just run out and shoot some more this morning. I did yesterday and I love having the control of the lens.
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    Re: When is a picture / post NSFW or just an environmental picture?

    Fair enough Guy.

    It is inevitable that a community like this ones in a while stumbles into a sudden problem with discussions heating up.
    The moment you -the moderators- stated the picture can stay, it was set for me and I thought we could just go on with the thread.
    It is good that you opened up a Sunset Bar, which is not always romance as we all know, to let people debate on the occured problem. And then politics, religion an culture start to play a role, but as we can see, things do cool down.
    We are grown ups and this is a great place to be!
    I am glad the moderators acted the way they did. Thanks!
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    Re: When is a picture / post NSFW or just an environmental picture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Georg Baumann View Post
    Very much so Guy, to me personally, in this crazy internet realm of photography fora, GetDPI is the only photography forum left that I visit regulary, and where I "feel home" and where even friendships developed over time. So yes, stellar job in deed and btw., off topic, thanks for your Canon T/S thread, you have me contemplating now which bank to rob! Arghhh.

    Hmm, here is a better idea, I just open a bank.
    Georg, I do want that TS lens as well and I know this little bank in........

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    I do hope I am speaking for Jack and Bob but they can add or not to what I posted for sure . This was not a easy one for all concerned to be honest. Nothing about it was black and white but a lot of grey area.
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    And all because Ben just requested if a posted picture could be moved to another
    section...

    wow. great going folks.
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    Re: When is a picture / post NSFW or just an environmental picture?

    Quote Originally Posted by rayyan View Post
    And all because Ben just requested if a posted picture could be moved to another
    section...

    wow. great going folks.

    Exactly

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    Re: When is a picture / post NSFW or just an environmental picture?

    Quote Originally Posted by rayyan View Post
    And all because Ben just requested if a posted picture could be moved to another
    section...

    wow. great going folks.
    It was his own decision to leave, nobody forced him too.
    The discussion was fierce for sure but it should not have to be a reason to leave.
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    What I believe might've sent Ben packing was the VERY unnecessary political comment by Annna T, " not wanting to see more of the plight of the people in Gaza.. ". That appears to be a direct dig at Ben and there is no room for a political jab on this thread. While I have no problem with the posted picture, I really liked it, a personal attack was rude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rayyan View Post
    And all because Ben just requested if a posted picture could be moved to another
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    wow. great going folks.
    Yeah it was ZoranC who originally requested it be moved to NSFW because of common American business policies for zero tolerance when it comes to nudity. Art or not it all gets lumped with porn when there's naked bodies on the screen. Ben echoed his concern for religious reasons. Again they're both rational and respectable reason even if you don't practice that religion or don't view from work when a NSFW section is available.

    Whether him leaving was warranted or not is an example of how we all have acceptable limits. One persons touchy subject is another's art.
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    Re: When is a picture / post NSFW or just an environmental picture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    I find ironic that most of those opposed to public nudity belong to one of the religions that have a "God" character at the peak of their hierarchy. That same God is supposed to have created man, and he created him nude. How then can nudity be offensive?

    I do btw. find it weird that people imprison cats, dogs and other animals in their homes for no other reason than their own enjoyment, and although I don't enjoy looking at photos of those captives, I understand that others have opinions that differ from mine, so I mostly just skip those photos, and I don't complain about them, but maybe I should start doing that

    And to those mentioning "nudity" and "violence" in the same sentence... how on earth can those to words be mentioned together as they often are (not least in news media)? The act of hurting another person (or a dog or cat for that matter), is basically a crime in almost any country on earth, as opposed to the beauty of the human body, God's own creation if you are so inclined?
    Really!?! I'm sure there have been war torn photos and photos of utter devastation that have won artistic awards just the same as nude ones...
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    Re: When is a picture / post NSFW or just an environmental picture?

    Ahem.

    According to the official guidelines at both my place of business and my partner's place of business, looking at GetDPI on any system owned by the company is already verboten, obviating the need for a "NSFW" tag ...

    When I look at this or any other photo site while I'm at work, I'm looking at it privately, on my own time during breaks or lunch, using my personal iPad mini.

    I'm sorry to see Ben leave, I enjoyed discussing things with him, but leaving a forum is a participant's personal decision for whatever reason. There are other means to get around having to read people who annoy you on this and other forums.

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    Re: When is a picture / post NSFW or just an environmental picture?

    Quote Originally Posted by HiredArm View Post
    Really!?! I'm sure there have been war torn photos and photos of utter devastation that have won artistic awards just the same as nude ones...
    +1
    Probably more at least more come to mind.
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    Re: When is a picture / post NSFW or just an environmental picture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    Ahem.

    According to the official guidelines at both my place of business and my partner's place of business, looking at GetDPI on any system owned by the company is already verboten, obviating the need for a "NSFW" tag ...

    When I look at this or any other photo site while I'm at work, I'm looking at it privately, on my own time during breaks or lunch, using my personal iPad mini.

    I'm sorry to see Ben leave, I enjoyed discussing things with him, but leaving a forum is a participant's personal decision for whatever reason. There are other means to get around having to read people who annoy you on this and other forums.

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    Yeah and that's your and their policy. My job doesn't really have that policy because I log into our VPN when I'm working either from my own personal computer or my company provided one.

    The point is we all have separate policies and maybe at his company it's okay to do personal browsing provided it's not excessive and it's not a site displaying nude bodies. No it's not GetDPI's responsibility to know each companies policy. Yes it's in the best interest of the community to be respectful to all members and reasonable requests.
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    Re: When is a picture / post NSFW or just an environmental picture?

    So why do we have a special NSFW forum in the first place?

    Why not an SFW forum?

    It seems rather odd to stigmatize and compartmentalize one aspect of art that has been around throughout human history.

    Yet there's no compartmentalization of dead bodies.

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    Re: When is a picture / post NSFW or just an environmental picture?

    Quote Originally Posted by HiredArm View Post
    Yeah and that's your and their policy. My job doesn't really have that policy because I log into our VPN when I'm working either from my own personal computer or my company provided one.
    ...
    But it begs the underlying question: should you be surfing the photo forums when you're being paid to get your work done?

    I work at home frequently too. My work is always on their equipment, not mine, for security and liability reasons. So when I'm working, I use my equipment when I'm taking a break (like now).

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    Re: When is a picture / post NSFW or just an environmental picture?

    Leigh remember this we don't need any special anything to just go ahead and delete images posted. We delete any offending image we feel necessary . Let's be clear on this. Where counting on your better judgement but your not the final word either. Welcome to our rules.
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    Re: When is a picture / post NSFW or just an environmental picture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    But it begs the underlying question: should you be surfing the photo forums when you're being paid to get your work done?

    I work at home frequently too. My work is always on their equipment, not mine, for security and liability reasons. So when I'm working, I use my equipment when I'm taking a break (like now).
    The answer is basically no you should not be surfing the net on company time, regardless of site or content. Most companies feel your on the clock being paid to do what they hired you for. Is there latitude there sure to some degree. Now my wife and I just ran into this with someones company iPhone and the time on it during business hours that are not related to our company but Facebook and hundreds of text. That alone would be enough cause for dismissal. For us that was not the sole reason but a factor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    But it begs the underlying question: should you be surfing the photo forums when you're being paid to get your work done?

    I work at home frequently too. My work is always on their equipment, not mine, for security and liability reasons. So when I'm working, I use my equipment when I'm taking a break (like now).
    Fair enough but I rarely work from home. Most of my work is international. Whether or not people should or shouldn't surf the Internet at work was never really the issue though. Content of what was being surfed was. For instance Ben was not at work as far as we know. Furthermore the fact that companies have policies of what's fair game to look at on company time provides gray area of whether or not personal surfing is allowed.

    People seem to miss that one fact in hopes of validating their "sound arguments" against the rational requests made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Welcome to our rules. Something all should read.
    Hi Guy,

    I did, as I mentioned about 50 posts back, and there's no reference to nudity anywhere.

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    Re: When is a picture / post NSFW or just an environmental picture?

    Well there is no reference to dead bodies either. I think when Bob and Jack installed the NSFW forum it would cover most of these issues. Reading rules which we all know no one does so it was kept fairly simply but with the overriding power of the mods to delete any content it felt necessary. Thats our job to decide that . But writing all that out is frankly a waste of time. Your all adults here with morals and logical thinking. Now if you can't do that than we moderate. Honestly I hate to moderate anything and all of the mods feel the same way. Its a huge time suck from our real jobs. I'm on vacation and I'm dealing with this crap, do you honestly think this is time well spent for me. LOL

    All this did for me was go spend money at B&H this morning. I'm blaming all of you for that one. ROTFLMAO

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiredArm View Post
    Fair enough but I rarely work from home. Most of my work is international. Whether or not people should or shouldn't surf the Internet at work was never really the issue though. Content of what was being surfed was. For instance Ben was not at work as far as we know. Furthermore the fact that companies have policies of what's fair game to look at on company time provides gray area of whether or not personal surfing is allowed.

    People seem to miss that one fact in hopes of validating their "sound arguments" against the rational requests made.
    Sounds like you're indicting me and you think I'm trying to "support my position."

    Frankly, I missed the kerfuffle (and haven't gone back to read through the thread in detail) because I am too busy to keep up with the thread, but I have no issue with Ben or ZoranC's requests, as long as they were made in a civil and sensible fashion. Whether I would chose to take down the photo, move it, tag it, or otherwise change it, if it were my photo, would depend on my opinion enlightened by their statements, the forum rules, and I'm always of the opinion that the Moderators' judgment is the last call in case I disagree.

    I see little to get so worked up about in this case, not in the photo anyway and I haven't looked at all of the (likely hasty) debate to judge that.

    Calm down. :-)

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    I find that image offensive Godfrey, I hate cats and I shouldn't be forced to look at it! Hehe.
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    Re: When is a picture / post NSFW or just an environmental picture?

    And all because one person requested a post to be moved to a specific place...not a new place, but one already there.

    Wow...unreal. So much bandwidth consumed when a simple yes/no would have
    sufficed.

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    Re: When is a picture / post NSFW or just an environmental picture?

    Quote Originally Posted by mjr View Post
    I find that image offensive Godfrey, I hate cats and I shouldn't be forced to look at it! Hehe.
    Lol I actually do not like cats at all nor the photos of them. But I hold my tongue
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    Sounds like you're indicting me and you think I'm trying to "support my position."

    Frankly, I missed the kerfuffle (and haven't gone back to read through the thread in detail) because I am too busy to keep up with the thread, but I have no issue with Ben or ZoranC's requests, as long as they were made in a civil and sensible fashion. Whether I would chose to take down the photo, move it, tag it, or otherwise change it, if it were my photo, would depend on my opinion enlightened by their statements, the forum rules, and I'm always of the opinion that the Moderators' judgment is the last call in case I disagree.

    I see little to get so worked up about in this case, not in the photo anyway and I haven't looked at all of the (likely hasty) debate to judge that.

    Calm down. :-)

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    Not I'm not indicting you personally at all so I apologize if you took it that way. I was actually making a general statement towards all of the anecdotal arguments wrapped in a heap of cynicism (mostly directed at Ben and his beliefs it seems) that really don't address what the original argument and issue was. It was not meant to appear to be personally directed at you but rather the languid arguments of many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Lol I actually do not like cats at all nor the photos of them.
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    Cats are far nicer than most people I've met... and smarter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiredArm View Post
    ... Cats are horrible and evil creatures for the record... There I said it for myself and Guy.
    Such a wellspring of anti-Feline sentiment on this forum! Watch out or the Society Of Automatic Censure Towards Cat Haters will be after you all!

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    Re: When is a picture / post NSFW or just an environmental picture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    Such a wellspring of anti-Feline sentiment on this forum! Watch out or the Society Of Automatic Censure Towards Cat Haters will be after you all!

    Note:
    I neither like nor dislike cats. They believe they're the master race, and I know they're wrong, but otherwise we get along. Although I don't invite them to live with me.

    A squad of Polar Bears has taken up residence. They keep the cats away... ]:-)

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    Haha...Fair enough.

    I guess my flaw (or my gift depending on who you ask) is I don't care THAT much what people think about me. It's probably not my business to know anyway otherwise they'd express it verbally or through action.
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    Cats are far nicer than most people I've met.

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    I hear people say that and I hear people say that their cat is kinda like a dog but I haven't met one that actually was.

    The thing is cats usually like me... I can't reciprocate that love towards them. I'm just more of a dog person when it comes to pets. The personality of a dog is more agreeable with mine and they are infinitely more useful for me.
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    The personality of a dog is more agreeable with mine and they are infinitely more useful for me.
    I certainly will agree with the "usefulness" attribute.

    And dogs can be excellent companions. I had a Shelty (miniature Collie) when I was growing up. Wonderful dog.

    I'm just much more comfortable with cats now. They're as affectionate as anyone could wish... but on their terms and their timing.

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    I certainly will agree with the "usefulness" attribute.

    And dogs can be excellent companions. I had a Shelty (miniature Collie) when I was growing up. Wonderful dog.

    I'm just much more comfortable with cats now.

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    Fair enough. I don't even own a pet right now. Just no time for one with my schedule. I'd like a larger dog (more than likely something wolf like in appearance or a mastiff) once things slow down with work and travel but who knows when that'll be. My woman wants a "lap dog" which I wouldn't mind provided it's not too yappy.
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    Admittedly I'm a serious dog lover. We lost our Big English pointer a couple months ago a favorite postings of Drake hit the forum numerous times best dog on the Mancuso planet and my 17 year old is determined to get a new dog as soon as we get home from vacation. As far as cats they just seem sneaky to me although very bright animals I just never warmed up to them. Guess the big things with dogs is they live me more than my spouse. I don't mean my spouse does not but dogs love having a master, not sure cats really do. As a family man I thoroughly enjoy the dedication of dogs to there masters.
    Now maybe that's true with cats not sure but they don't like me much. I always am able to go up to any dog and have a moment to enjoy each other. Always
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    Damn iPhone spelling seriously they can't get love correctly.

    Okay happy hour has started and a party on the beach patio is about to brew. Anything I say from this point on is subject to conjecture. Dang is that the right word. Lol

    My 2 favorite places to reside the beach and New York. So one may ask WTF you doing in the desert. Not sure I really have a answer. Lol
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    ... dogs love having a master, not sure cats really do.
    Nope.

    Cats ARE the masters.

    They tolerate the presence of humans because we provide food, shelter, toys, and amusement for them.

    As if that's not already obvious, cats are the smartest creatures on the planet.

    If you throw a ball and tell a dog to fetch it, he will do so.

    If you throw a ball and tell a cat to fetch it, he'll ask why you threw away something you wanted.

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    Okay I do want Ben to come back but we need to understand one thing here we are individuals that are not always responsible for our race, religion, country and/
    or politics. We simply cannot not blame anyone on what's going on in there neck of the woods and hold them responsible for it. Period
    We all have our own views, opinions and beliefs and we can't hold a individual responsible for something they can't control. We are a very diverse group here and we need to embrace those differences. That's all I'm going to say but we need to love and respect each other. We need to rise above the rift of the world and be friends.
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    Okay I'm hitting the bar that was far to deep. Lol
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    Okay I'm hitting the bar that was far to deep. Lol
    I suspect you're going to a different bar, or I'd buy you a drink. ;-)

    OMG - a long weekend and NO plans at all! Woo hoo! :-)

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    To try to cheer you all up with a bit of levity.
    Here is what happens when you do a 180, the subject is clothed... but... not the photographer

    Read the text and have a look at the images.

    I do hope this is SFW - Utah Photojournalist - yeah, it should be.

    I think image #2 is gold. I just love her expression.
    #4 actually made me laugh looking at him.

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    Admittedly I'm a serious dog lover. We lost our Big English pointer a couple months ago a favorite postings of Drake hit the forum numerous times best dog on the Mancuso planet and my 17 year old is determined to get a new dog as soon as we get home from vacation. As far as cats they just seem sneaky to me although very bright animals I just never warmed up to them. Guess the big things with dogs is they live me more than my spouse. I don't mean my spouse does not but dogs love having a master, not sure cats really do. As a family man I thoroughly enjoy the dedication of dogs to there masters.
    Now maybe that's true with cats not sure but they don't like me much. I always am able to go up to any dog and have a moment to enjoy each other. Always
    Hmmm, I think my dog is actually a cat disguised as a dog in order to get more treats.

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    If you throw a ball and tell a dog to fetch it, he will do so.

    If you throw a ball and tell a cat to fetch it, he'll ask why you threw away something you wanted.

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    Our dogs have always been adaptable to us. They got 5-10 minutes of playtime then it was time to relax and chill out. Outside of that they had to entertain themselves without being destructive.
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    Georg, I do want that TS lens as well and I know this little bank in........
    Two ski masked people, stupidly both having sony camera's dangling from their neck enter this little bank in........ ...

    Michiel: "Listen up everyone, give us all your money!"
    Georg: "Hurry up now, we took Angela Merkel as a hostage, and if you don't give us all your money.... we will set her free again!

    A few moments later, two very rich people leave this little bank in........

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    "Hey you there with that big ugly Canon camera with that silly hump on it, put it here on the desk for me."

    "But I have to photograph this bank and get the perpective straight"

    "You can go straight to *#@^ if you don't put it right in front of me here on the desk and take Angela with you when you leave"
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    Ohhh, folks please not ME AGAIN, i have an ugly Canon (not used to much anymore) and a TSE (24) and we have Angela...

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    Yes Werner, you have been naughty , you can give that TSE lens to Georg and keep the C

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    As pushiment , wouldn't that be enough: I give the "ugly one" and keep the TSE ????
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    Oké Werner, you can give the Canon to me because I am still without a FF camera, the rep said it can take another 14 days before my A7r is repared that will be one month's in total.

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    Sh..(Beep), bad speculation, thought nobody will take the ugly one, have still the beauty Angela to offer....

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