When is a picture / post NSFW or just an environmental picture?

[JoelM]

What I believe might've sent Ben packing was the VERY unnecessary political comment by Annna T, " not wanting to see more of the plight of the people in Gaza.. ". That appears to be a direct dig at Ben and there is no room for a political jab on this thread. While I have no problem with the posted picture, I really liked it, a personal attack was rude.

Joel

 

[iiiNelson]

And all because Ben just requested if a posted picture could be moved to another
section...

wow. great going folks.

Yeah it was ZoranC who originally requested it be moved to NSFW because of common American business policies for zero tolerance when it comes to nudity. Art or not it all gets lumped with porn when there's naked bodies on the screen. Ben echoed his concern for religious reasons. Again they're both rational and respectable reason even if you don't practice that religion or don't view from work when a NSFW section is available.

Whether him leaving was warranted or not is an example of how we all have acceptable limits. One persons touchy subject is another's art.

 

[iiiNelson]

I find ironic that most of those opposed to public nudity belong to one of the religions that have a "God" character at the peak of their hierarchy. That same God is supposed to have created man, and he created him nude. How then can nudity be offensive?

I do btw. find it weird that people imprison cats, dogs and other animals in their homes for no other reason than their own enjoyment, and although I don't enjoy looking at photos of those captives, I understand that others have opinions that differ from mine, so I mostly just skip those photos, and I don't complain about them, but maybe I should start doing that

And to those mentioning "nudity" and "violence" in the same sentence... how on earth can those to words be mentioned together as they often are (not least in news media)? The act of hurting another person (or a dog or cat for that matter), is basically a crime in almost any country on earth, as opposed to the beauty of the human body, God's own creation if you are so inclined?

Really!?! I'm sure there have been war torn photos and photos of utter devastation that have won artistic awards just the same as nude ones...

 

[Godfrey]

Ahem.

According to the official guidelines at both my place of business and my partner's place of business, looking at GetDPI on any system owned by the company is already verboten, obviating the need for a "NSFW" tag ...

When I look at this or any other photo site while I'm at work, I'm looking at it privately, on my own time during breaks or lunch, using my personal iPad mini.

I'm sorry to see Ben leave, I enjoyed discussing things with him, but leaving a forum is a participant's personal decision for whatever reason. There are other means to get around having to read people who annoy you on this and other forums.

G
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Back to the rocks, cats, flowers, and kitchen utensils for me, for the moment.

 

[alajuela]

Really!?! I'm sure there have been war torn photos and photos of utter devastation that have won artistic awards just the same as nude ones...

+1
Probably more at least more come to mind.

 

[iiiNelson]

Ahem.

According to the official guidelines at both my place of business and my partner's place of business, looking at GetDPI on any system owned by the company is already verboten, obviating the need for a "NSFW" tag ...

When I look at this or any other photo site while I'm at work, I'm looking at it privately, on my own time during breaks or lunch, using my personal iPad mini.

I'm sorry to see Ben leave, I enjoyed discussing things with him, but leaving a forum is a participant's personal decision for whatever reason. There are other means to get around having to read people who annoy you on this and other forums.

G
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Back to the rocks, cats, flowers, and kitchen utensils for me, for the moment.

Yeah and that's your and their policy. My job doesn't really have that policy because I log into our VPN when I'm working either from my own personal computer or my company provided one.

The point is we all have separate policies and maybe at his company it's okay to do personal browsing provided it's not excessive and it's not a site displaying nude bodies. No it's not GetDPI's responsibility to know each companies policy. Yes it's in the best interest of the community to be respectful to all members and reasonable requests.

 

[Leigh]

So why do we have a special NSFW forum in the first place?

Why not an SFW forum?

It seems rather odd to stigmatize and compartmentalize one aspect of art that has been around throughout human history.

Yet there's no compartmentalization of dead bodies.

- Leigh

 

[Godfrey]

Yeah and that's your and their policy. My job doesn't really have that policy because I log into our VPN when I'm working either from my own personal computer or my company provided one.
...

But it begs the underlying question: should you be surfing the photo forums when you're being paid to get your work done?

I work at home frequently too. My work is always on their equipment, not mine, for security and liability reasons. So when I'm working, I use my equipment when I'm taking a break (like now).

 

[Guy Mancuso]

Leigh remember this we don't need any special anything to just go ahead and delete images posted. We delete any offending image we feel necessary . Let's be clear on this. Where counting on your better judgement but your not the final word either. Welcome to our rules.
Something all should read.

 

[Guy Mancuso]

But it begs the underlying question: should you be surfing the photo forums when you're being paid to get your work done?

I work at home frequently too. My work is always on their equipment, not mine, for security and liability reasons. So when I'm working, I use my equipment when I'm taking a break (like now).

The answer is basically no you should not be surfing the net on company time, regardless of site or content. Most companies feel your on the clock being paid to do what they hired you for. Is there latitude there sure to some degree. Now my wife and I just ran into this with someones company iPhone and the time on it during business hours that are not related to our company but Facebook and hundreds of text. That alone would be enough cause for dismissal. For us that was not the sole reason but a factor.

 

[iiiNelson]

But it begs the underlying question: should you be surfing the photo forums when you're being paid to get your work done?

I work at home frequently too. My work is always on their equipment, not mine, for security and liability reasons. So when I'm working, I use my equipment when I'm taking a break (like now).

Fair enough but I rarely work from home. Most of my work is international. Whether or not people should or shouldn't surf the Internet at work was never really the issue though. Content of what was being surfed was. For instance Ben was not at work as far as we know. Furthermore the fact that companies have policies of what's fair game to look at on company time provides gray area of whether or not personal surfing is allowed.

People seem to miss that one fact in hopes of validating their "sound arguments" against the rational requests made.

 

[Leigh]

Welcome to our rules. Something all should read.

Hi Guy,

I did, as I mentioned about 50 posts back, and there's no reference to nudity anywhere.

- Leigh

 

[Guy Mancuso]

Well there is no reference to dead bodies either. I think when Bob and Jack installed the NSFW forum it would cover most of these issues. Reading rules which we all know no one does so it was kept fairly simply but with the overriding power of the mods to delete any content it felt necessary. Thats our job to decide that . But writing all that out is frankly a waste of time. Your all adults here with morals and logical thinking. Now if you can't do that than we moderate. Honestly I hate to moderate anything and all of the mods feel the same way. Its a huge time suck from our real jobs. I'm on vacation and I'm dealing with this crap, do you honestly think this is time well spent for me. LOL

All this did for me was go spend money at B&H this morning. I'm blaming all of you for that one. ROTFLMAO

I lie I did go and shoot in La Jolla this morning too. LOL

 

[Godfrey]

Fair enough but I rarely work from home. Most of my work is international. Whether or not people should or shouldn't surf the Internet at work was never really the issue though. Content of what was being surfed was. For instance Ben was not at work as far as we know. Furthermore the fact that companies have policies of what's fair game to look at on company time provides gray area of whether or not personal surfing is allowed.

People seem to miss that one fact in hopes of validating their "sound arguments" against the rational requests made.

Sounds like you're indicting me and you think I'm trying to "support my position."

Frankly, I missed the kerfuffle (and haven't gone back to read through the thread in detail) because I am too busy to keep up with the thread, but I have no issue with Ben or ZoranC's requests, as long as they were made in a civil and sensible fashion. Whether I would chose to take down the photo, move it, tag it, or otherwise change it, if it were my photo, would depend on my opinion enlightened by their statements, the forum rules, and I'm always of the opinion that the Moderators' judgment is the last call in case I disagree.

I see little to get so worked up about in this case, not in the photo anyway and I haven't looked at all of the (likely hasty) debate to judge that.

Calm down.

G

A cat picture to help everyone smile:
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[mjr]

I find that image offensive Godfrey, I hate cats and I shouldn't be forced to look at it! Hehe.

 

[rayyan]

And all because one person requested a post to be moved to a specific place...not a new place, but one already there.

Wow...unreal. So much bandwidth consumed when a simple yes/no would have
sufficed.

Happy image making folks.

 

[Guy Mancuso]

I find that image offensive Godfrey, I hate cats and I shouldn't be forced to look at it! Hehe.

Lol I actually do not like cats at all nor the photos of them. But I hold my tongue

 

[iiiNelson]

Sounds like you're indicting me and you think I'm trying to "support my position."

Frankly, I missed the kerfuffle (and haven't gone back to read through the thread in detail) because I am too busy to keep up with the thread, but I have no issue with Ben or ZoranC's requests, as long as they were made in a civil and sensible fashion. Whether I would chose to take down the photo, move it, tag it, or otherwise change it, if it were my photo, would depend on my opinion enlightened by their statements, the forum rules, and I'm always of the opinion that the Moderators' judgment is the last call in case I disagree.

I see little to get so worked up about in this case, not in the photo anyway and I haven't looked at all of the (likely hasty) debate to judge that.

Calm down.

G

A cat picture to help everyone smile:
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Not I'm not indicting you personally at all so I apologize if you took it that way. I was actually making a general statement towards all of the anecdotal arguments wrapped in a heap of cynicism (mostly directed at Ben and his beliefs it seems) that really don't address what the original argument and issue was. It was not meant to appear to be personally directed at you but rather the languid arguments of many.

Calm is the one thing people always accuse me of being too much of in most instances. Never really needed help there but if ever I did my girlfriend is a clinical psychologist. Cats are horrible and evil creatures for the record... There I said it for myself and Guy.

 

[Leigh]

Lol I actually do not like cats at all nor the photos of them.

Cats are horrible and evil creatures for the record...

Cats are far nicer than most people I've met... and smarter.

- Leigh

 

[Godfrey]

... Cats are horrible and evil creatures for the record... There I said it for myself and Guy.

Such a wellspring of anti-Feline sentiment on this forum! Watch out or the Society Of Automatic Censure Towards Cat Haters will be after you all!

Note:
I neither like nor dislike cats. They believe they're the master race, and I know they're wrong, but otherwise we get along. Although I don't invite them to live with me.

A squad of Polar Bears has taken up residence. They keep the cats away... ]

onwards,
G