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    Peter Lik 6.5 million $ Antelope canyon picture

    Congratulations to Peter Lik for his world record sale of "Phantom" black & white Antelope canyon picture.

    Blog - Peter Lik Sets World Record

    I've had the opportunity to photograph in the same location and am in awe of his success, given the content is available for any one to capture.

    Well done Sir.
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    If ever proof were needed that the business of art is the art of business, this is it.
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    Re: Peter Lik 6.5 million $ Antelope canyon picture

    Kid: Oh, daddy... look at that cloud. It looks like a man!

    Dad: I think you're right son. Let's snap a photo and show your mum when we get home. I'm sure she'll buy you an ice-cream.

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    I went to Peter Lik's website and watched a couple of the videos he's made about himself. Kind of makes me understand how totally out of rhythm with the current commercial world of art I am. Oh well... sometimes, I'm happy to be left behind

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    Re: Peter Lik 6.5 million $ Antelope canyon picture

    Didn't realize this was a private sale. You know what, I just sold a photograph for $10m, so I guess that makes me the world's most collectible photographer. And my cat sold one for $8m, so I guess that makes her the second. Who to? Private collectors of course! Details? No way, they're private. Better get on Wikipedia and bump PL down a couple of spots.

    You do wonder how such a consummate businessman as Peter Lik, with his huge output, could ever become collectible in the sense that he's going to beat out the likes of Gursky, Cindy Sherman, Weston etc. There's just too much stuff out there. No wonder that every time I watch 'Pawn Stars' on TV they still have that Peter Lik photo hanging on the wall...

    Would be nice to see one his 'masterworks' go to auction and see what the fine art market buying crowd really think it's worth (all Lik's sales over $1m have been to *ahem* private buyers).

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    P.S. Pearson - your first post, and it sends us to Peter Lik's gallery (not a news agency) - you're not Peter Lik are you?

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    Re: Peter Lik 6.5 million $ Antelope canyon picture

    Quote Originally Posted by f8orbust View Post

    P.S. Pearson - your first post, and it sends us to Peter Lik's gallery (not a news agency) - you're not Peter Lik are you?
    That is even more awesome (if that is the case), I would say!

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    Re: Peter Lik 6.5 million $ Antelope canyon picture

    oh my god, now thousands more versions of antelope canyon will be deluging us
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    Re: Peter Lik 6.5 million $ Antelope canyon picture

    I know many of you enjoy landscape photography but years ago I gave up doing it because in my view if you simply waited long enough in any particular spot for the right light or weather, you could capture an image nearly identical to the most famous landscape photos in the world. At that point I stopped doing landscapes.

    This is purely a personal view and I do enjoy looking at beautiful landscape photos.

    It's not true that if you wait long enough you can reproduce portraits, street, candid or formal. I love human faces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bradhusick View Post
    It's not true that if you wait long enough you can reproduce portraits, street, candid or formal.
    I don't think it is true for landscapes either nor is there any obligation to reproduce the work of others, in any genre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    oh my god, now thousands more versions of antelope canyon will be deluging us
    And a ton of us on this forum have pretty much the same image too. MARKETING and honestly as a working Pro not a bad lesson for me. Im sitting on great images that are not making me money. I slap myself for that.
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    Re: Peter Lik 6.5 million $ Antelope canyon picture

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    And a ton of us on this forum have pretty much the same image too. MARKETING and honestly as a working Pro not a bad lesson for me. Im sitting on great images that are not making me money. I slap myself for that.
    Agree. I find it amazing that there are so many negative posts including even trashing a whole photography genre altogether.

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    Re: Peter Lik 6.5 million $ Antelope canyon picture

    Yea I read some on another forum. Even accusing him of lying about the sale. Who cares the point being he is a marketing genius and makes a great living selling his work. That my friends is a lesson outside of being a shooter we can learn from, not denounce him for. Look every damn working pro sold there soul to make a living at being a photographer. We sold out our Art to do that, get used to its our job. There is nothing holy and molly out of that, we need to eat and support our families like anything else.
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    Re: Peter Lik 6.5 million $ Antelope canyon picture

    my point was that we have seen on this forum alone many, many of almost the same Antelope canyon shot. same with Mesa Arch, Horseshoe Bend, etc.

    to where there are even tripod holes to use in the "best" shooting locations.

    there must be many who want to get that same shot, but doesn't it get over worked to the point of cliche?
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    Agree John I know I don't want to copy others stuff. Why I mostly don't sell some of this stuff. Rather find other shots when I'm out there. This is why I stay away from photography books. I don't want others images sticking in my brain.
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    Re: Peter Lik 6.5 million $ Antelope canyon picture

    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    there must be many who want to get that same shot, but doesn't it get over worked to the point of cliche?
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    Re: Peter Lik 6.5 million $ Antelope canyon picture

    How pathetic is that. Just lost any respect for him.
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    Re: Peter Lik 6.5 million $ Antelope canyon picture

    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    my point was that we have seen on this forum alone many, many of almost the same Antelope canyon shot. same with Mesa Arch, Horseshoe Bend, etc.

    to where there are even tripod holes to use in the "best" shooting locations.

    there must be many who want to get that same shot, but doesn't it get over worked to the point of cliche?
    I was in Monument Valley the other week and at Wind Arch there is literally an X etched into the rock where you stand to shoot the perfect shot of Wind Arch framed within the limbs of the silhouette tree.

    I'm on the road for work at the moment otherwise I'd post a copy of the shoot and X mark
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    Re: Peter Lik 6.5 million $ Antelope canyon picture

    Unfortunately I am not affiliated with Peter Lik.
    Linked to Lik's site because it seems to be the source for all others, and quite amusing when read from the hater point of view.
    I've been on a Death Valley workshop with Guy, and a Monument Valley workshop with Jack.
    Been a lurker over here ever since.
    Had to Join up and get the community's view on this.
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    Re: Peter Lik 6.5 million $ Antelope canyon picture

    Here is how I look at this. I go out with either myself or on our workshops and hold nothing back to those folks. There with me and I want to help, teach and share like I do here on the forum. That's my call and I love doing it. But in a world of competition as a working Pro or selling your Art these things like exact locations should be held close to your vest as this is your source of income. All these folks are doing selling a app like that is just cheapening the landscape industry to make money. Okay I get that but in the process great stock images that many of us enjoyed selling are going for free or or worse 25 bucks a image. It's not good for the industry. I have to think industry at large because it's my market. Hobbyists do not but most of the good hobbyists do care very much about the industry and thank you for that. It's like the iPhone is killing it bad enough do we really need to tell people where to stand and completely avoid teaching them how to be creative. It galls me to death as a instructor because that's what I do on workshops is teach people to learn how to see on there own, be creative and go home with something unique. Frankly Rodney is doing a huge deservice to the industry and shame on him doing it for a buck. Most Pros take far more pride in there work over money. So if I sound negative your right and I would tell him to his face, I don't need a keyboard to hide behind.
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    Re: Peter Lik 6.5 million $ Antelope canyon picture

    mea culpa

    i shot zabriskie point, probably close to Ansel's viewpoint ;(
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    Re: Peter Lik 6.5 million $ Antelope canyon picture

    Here is the question one has to ask. Is that even the right spot to begin with. Art is Art and a different composition or angle could even be better regardless of how many images or cost have been sold. We have our own eyes to see and what feels best to us.

    I know I'm being a little rough here but as soon as you give up doing things on your own or without guidance on site and even if you agree or disagree you don't want to give up your vision. You never learn from copying. Period
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    Re: Peter Lik 6.5 million $ Antelope canyon picture

    When I was there I skipped that shot, because I believed giving it up to get more space away from the other photographers would be worth more.
    It is an amazing location, before I had been, every picture I saw of it was stunning to me.
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    Re: Peter Lik 6.5 million $ Antelope canyon picture

    I think that shooting the cliche shots is perfectly ok, although as a pro you probably have to add it to your portfolio for the masses. However, once that's out of your system, the real artistic value is shooting something unique that might just be somewhere in your backyard and not at all shot by the masses. Get the main shot out of your system and then get creative on a personal level elsewhere.

    I love the images of the likes of Christopher Burkett and Charlie Cramer because they show the beauty of locations that are NOT the spectacular light/weather at well known locations. They are absolutely beautiful and could have been shot in your own local woodland or even backyard. That's where the art and value is - not the spectacular cliched locations.

    However, if I were running workshops, I'd be taking my clients to the prime locations at the best times so that they can get their portfolio images, even if not at all unique. That's what would pay that bill and is expected. However, as an artist I'd go back on my own trip and look for something 'mine' and unique. I might fail, I might end up shooting a fern in the car park, but I'd want my own images.
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    Re: Peter Lik 6.5 million $ Antelope canyon picture

    Well said Graham and even though we do that on our workshops we certainly scout other locations that great images can be made from. As a instructor myself giving your participants as many good locations to shoot from Is first why they are there in the first place. We all want to go home with something special be it one it a hundred that is the end goal. Honestly Tunnel View in Yosinte is not even where Ansel shot his famous half whatever view. It's up in a hill behind the parking lot but the trees have grown. See my point is you can take folks to the iconic spots but let them get there own .

    I'm sure I'll be getting hate mail but photography is about creating art and having fun. Don't copy others do your own thing it actually maybe far better and usually is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    However, as an artist I'd go back on my own trip and look for something 'mine' and unique. I might fail, I might end up shooting a fern in the car park, but I'd want my own images.
    That's how I approach places like Yosemite (the valley and high country). It's one of my favorite places on Earth (I was a climber there for years), whether in photo-mode or just taking it in. I have some of the "cliche' " images, and some which are not at all like others I've seen captured there. The latter examples are my favorites by far, some of which I've never shared, but simply printed for my own pleasure. Such places offer inspiration (to me) and beautiful scenes abound without even including the classic monolithic cliffs which, to many, define the valley.

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    Re: Peter Lik 6.5 million $ Antelope canyon picture

    Many years ago, while still living in Norway, yacht racing was my favourite pastime. At one particular race, we were in the middle of the field and one of the crew suggested that we sail on the opposite side of the course. I was against it, saying that nobody else had gone that way. He then answered: "That's why we should go there. Either we win, or we'll be so far behind that nobody will notice if we return home."

    We did as he said, were later overtaken by a plastic mug, and returned home for an early dinner without anybody noticing. I still sail on the opposite side, particularly when taking photos. There have been many early dinners, but now and then, I get images that others don't
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    I think that shooting the cliche shots is perfectly ok, although as a pro you probably have to add it to your portfolio for the masses.
    I completely agree. Earlier this year, I licensed 29 images for a book (including cover) on Washington, DC. As well as licensing images for gallery wraps sold thru Walmart, Kmart, Sears, Amazon, ex. If you don't have the images taken, you're out of luck on some relatively easy income streams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GregMO View Post
    I completely agree. Earlier this year, I licensed 29 images for a book (including cover) on Washington, DC. As well as licensing images for gallery wraps sold thru Walmart, Kmart, Sears, Amazon, ex. If you don't have the images taken, you're out of luck on some relatively easy income streams.
    Oh, but absolutely. When I look at my stock portfolio, it's the "boring" photos that have been taken by zillions of other photographers too that sell in volume. "Interesting" photos that get "Likes" on forums like this don't sell much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hosermage View Post
    Thanks for that link. I can definitely understand why that would make some photographers mad. I used to hate it in school when other photographers would steal my locations after I had scouted them.

    We have to understand that there is a difference between landscape photography and "landscape photography." If a person can use GPS to find an exact location of a point-of-view that has already been discovered by a previous photographer, then he's just a tourist visiting a location and taking a souvenir photo for solemnization. It's no different than taking a picture of the Eiffel tower when visiting Paris or the pyramids when visiting Egypt.

    A lot of what passes for landscape photography today is nothing but photo tourism. Real landscape photography never stops being a mode of discovery.
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    Re: Peter Lik 6.5 million $ Antelope canyon picture

    Well. I have no objection to Peter Lik (or anyone else) making lots of money, good luck to him.
    I have a real problem with Beautiful Places for photography, because often there is nothing to add. But unlike Brad, I haven't given up, but I go to ordinary places and hope for extraordinary moments.

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    Re: Peter Lik 6.5 million $ Antelope canyon picture

    it really is all about the moment, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    it really is all about the moment, eh?
    That's what I think. Modern cameras with IBIS and decent high ISO are so great, because it means you can travel light when looking for that moment. Tripods are real moment killers for me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Tripods are real moment killers for me!
    But they can be very useful too, like if you need to protect yourself against a gang of old ladies. Here's what may happen if you do not carry a tripod:

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    But there aren't any old ladies around here Jorgen

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    But there aren't any old ladies around here Jorgen
    Here they come in hordes

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