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Hi,The thing I really hate about the XPro2 is the ISO dial.
Rand,Hi,
Not a fix for the dial, but a work-around
Rand
David,Rand,
Yes, those work-arounds work reasonably well outdoors.
I had to photograph a big (as in 800 people) awards dinner for a magazine and took my XPro2 and XE2. I had to keep adjusting ISO for crowd with just ambient/room light, speakers with video lights and spots on them, flash when I needed. It was a true ordeal with the XPro2 and a piece of cake for the XE2. With the XE2 I could change ISO with one hand without looking. With the XPRO2, it took two hands and sometimes screwed up the shutter speed.
Should there be an XE3 and it keeps that handy pop-up flash, has dual sd card slots and the new sensor, I'll sell the XPro2 as soon as the XE3 is available. Files from XPro2 are excellent and color is almost as good as the old XE1, but I rather have manual ISO than the hybrid viewfinder. Not one review mentioned the lack of manual ISO adjustment without using that ISO dial before I purchased the XPro2.
I set the Auto ISO settings with the minimum shutter speed in mind:The thing I really hate about the XPro2 is the ISO dial.
While I share most of your points, I completely disagree WRT high ISO usability. This is one of the best cameras out there today, especially in APSC sensor format - period!After using the X-Pro2 now for a little over 2 months, I found the following.
1. The ISO dial after you get used to it is not a bit problem for me.
2. The lack of a tilting LCD, is a big deal for me. At my age, the ability to bend down for certain perspectives just doesn't happen as easily as it did 20 or so years ago.
3. The new shutter is amazing, period
4. High ISO, is better, but still not that impressed much past 2000
5. Color, WB etc, seem way off to me on between the EVF and LCD, finally have gotten used to trusting the WB shown on the LCD as my EVF just shows way too much blue/green
6. Love the new bracketing features
7. Love the fact that the play button is on the right side (sure wish this had been added to the X-T2) as you can do everything with one hand during playback/review
8. Battery life, is not good, poor, and intelligence behind the batteries is very inaccurate at least on my camera, as mine will power off with 1/3 still showing on the camera LCD
9. No ability to add a grip for an extra battery, pushes me towards the X-T2
10. Look feel is very nice, well built camera, love the Weather resistance design
11. Bracketing with AF on, always seems to give me 1 of three images slight out of focus, thus have to move to MF mode
12. Instant AF (when in M mode) is not accurate and tend to miss focus forcing me to move to manual focus through the EVF or LCD if outdoor lighting allows (have brought this issue up with Fuji, no real positive response may just be my camera as same feature on X-T1 works)
13. AF to MF switch is fly by wire thus if you move from AF (with good focus) to MF, the lens will always drop out of focus, (thus the need for instant AF), true on all lenses with out a AF/MF switch on lens to my findings. So for a lot of field work, this causes a problem
14. If you have a good focus solution, and turn the camera off, when powered back up, focus is lost (unless you have a manual focus only lens like the Samyang 12mm) even lenses with the AF/MF switch seem to loose just a bit of focus accuracy. Big deal for me for night work,
or late evening work as camera will always have a bit of difficulty focusing in lower light. For Astro work, my process is to focus with good light, and turn off the camera (can't do this with any Fuji due to fly by wire AF) unless lens is totally manual
15 LR seems to have gotten a bit better on raw conversion (image dependent) but still could be better C1 is excellent but still has no lens profiles (WAY TO LONG FOR THIS TO BE ADDED)
More than likely I will sell the X-Pro2 once the X-T2 starts to ship as that camera fits my style of shooting, but it has been an excellent tool up to this point.
Paul C
COne release 9.2.1 picks up the manufacturer's profile for distortion correction on the 35/2.0, which really needed it. I discovered that by accident today while processing vacation snaps taken with the 35. I also have the 23/1.4 and the 56/1.2 which don't need any obvious corrections, but will see if there is evidence for COne looking for parameters with those as well. If someone who has other lenses needing correction would check, it would be nice to know if all Fuji XF lenses are now covered. Note: you only see the corrections being applied when you are in crop mode.After using the X-Pro2 now for a little over 2 months, I found the following.
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15 LR seems to have gotten a bit better on raw conversion (image dependent) but still could be better C1 is excellent but still has no lens profiles (WAY TO LONG FOR THIS TO BE ADDED)
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Paul C
In some other photographic times ISO setting were usually done that way on most cameras.Manually adjusting ISO is a two handed operation with the XPro2; one to hold the camera and one to reach over and pull the ISO wheel. With the XE1/XE2 you can manually change ISO with just your right hand. The Auto ISO options on the XPro2 are very good, but some of us like to manually focus, manually set exposure, manually set ISO or any combination of those things. It is harder to manually set ISO with the XPro2 than XE2.
I've found the higher ISO settings to be about one stop better than the XE2. High ISO settings have been excellent since the XPro1/XE1 and are just getting better.
These aren't "other photographic times." With the "ancient" XE1 and the XE2 you can manually adjust iso one handed, without looking. One generally sees a camera maker add features to a new model, not take away perfectly good features.In some other photographic times ISO setting were usually done that way on most cameras.
I do not get the constant complaints about this great implementation on the XPro2.
And on top of that why choose this camera if there are so many bad things about it and so many other and better choices :banghead:
David,These aren't "other photographic times." With the "ancient" XE1 and the XE2 you can manually adjust iso one handed, without looking. One generally sees a camera maker add features to a new model, not take away perfectly good features.
There is no perfect camera so one can always find some fault with any camera, don't you agree? Those faults don't necessarily make it a bad choice of cameras.
The dual slot is important to me as I was testing the XPro2 as my full time camera in my studio. Dual slots are a must for me in my studio. Also needed to test whether cramming more pixels into the same size sensor was positive. I've felt the color out of the XE1 was slightly superior to the XE2 so needed to see first hand (not reviews) if the new sensor was an improvement. Again, I don't like to rely on reviews. Any increase in auto focusing ability is welcomed in the entire X series so wanted to see that too.
The XPro2 is certainly a capable camera. It's the back-up camera in my studio to the Canon 5Dmk3. If the Canon goes down, I have no worries using the XPro2 (or the XE2 for that matter). I think the color from the XPro2 is just about as good as that of the XE1, which is a bit better than the XE2.David,
with all the features you tested, would you say finally that the XPro2 is a capable camera for you? Does it fulfill your requirements?
And if this is the case, what would you think about the XT2 (same sensor and even improved AF) but different ergonomics and definitely better EVF.
Thanks for your feedback
Peter