Guy Mancuso
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I meant the left side , my bad the Daylight setting ones.Hi Guy
I don't understand what you're saying here - the images on the right are all awful.
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I meant the left side , my bad the Daylight setting ones.Hi Guy
I don't understand what you're saying here - the images on the right are all awful.
Gotcha - I get my right and left completely screwed when driving on the continent.I meant the left side , my bad the Daylight setting ones.
I don't think any of Nikons or canons are incident based but reflected based but something we should check. Usually it is coming in from the lens and calculated there.HI Guy
A couple of points
1.
Does the D3 not have an incident white balance meter? (I know the Olympus E1 and E2 DO have one). I've been looking around and can't find out.
2.
The Daylight setting on the D3 is 4891 with a tint of -5 (FWIW) it comes up the same in ACR and Aperture.
Well frankly i don't care. If i've shot daylight pics i just choose the daylight setting or 5200 K in the raw converter for instance. Even if my in-camera settings were totally false, the pic will have 5200 K like other ones finally no? Again i have the feeling that i'm missing something here but i can't seem to see where sorry....why would you want to import a batch of photographs where not a single one had either correct, or the same white balance?...
Hi ThereWell frankly i don't care. If i've shot daylight pics i just choose the daylight setting or 5200 K in the raw converter for instance. Even if my in-camera settings were totally false, the pic will have 5200 K like other ones finally no? Again i have the feeling that i'm missing something here but i can't seem to see where sorry.
Hi GuyFor Aperture 4891 could be the case, some programs run daylight at different numerical values. So no hard and fast rule on 5500, that is just the standard value for daylight. LR is more like 5300. i have to check C1 but i think it is lower also
Well i don't see the point of choosing any in-camera setting to put it bluntly. I generally choose AWB to chimp more easily (when i chimp) but i know that this won't be good enough of course and i don't care because the 'serious' WB settings will be done in the raw conveter anyway. Well never mind i must be too tired (or stupid) tonight. Time to go to bed. Cheers...If you're going to set everything back to daylight, what's the point of having it on AWB in the first place?
Well frankly i don't care. If i've shot daylight pics i just choose the daylight setting or 5200 K in the raw converter for instance. Even if my in-camera settings were totally false, the pic will have 5200 K like other ones finally no? Again i have the feeling that i'm missing something here but i can't seem to see where sorry.
Well, that's fine - but it relies on you actually remembering what the light was actually like . . . so well that you can tweak the wb on individual shots until you have what you want. I'm pretty good on colour (and I have a good memory for it too) but not that good.Well i don't see the point of choosing any in-camera setting to put it bluntly. I generally choose AWB to chimp more easily (when i chimp) but i know that this won't be good enough of course and i don't care because the 'serious' WB settings will be done in the raw conveter anyway. Well never mind i must be too tired (or stupid) tonight. Time to go to bed. Cheers.
Not sure if i'm good on colors but yes i do work this way. Perhaps i'm wrong after all. Or perhaps i'm a genius hehe! Bye folks.Well, that's fine - but it relies on you actually remembering what the light was actually like . . . so well that you can tweak the wb on individual shots until you have what you want...
OHHHHHHHHH YES IT DOES!!!!!HI Maggie
No it hasn't - but that's quite different story
Exactly the camera has a daylight value built in it is a standard and won't change which will reside in the DNG or NEF etc. The Raw processors just may see it at a different value that the raw processors algorithm is set too. Reason I said 5500 is not Gospel different programs tend to place different values. And this comes down to way different raw processors see the same file different Adobe may like it like this or C1 may like it like that. It is what is built into there profiles for that particular cameraHi Guy
That brings up another interesting point - you have implied that the camera says 'daylight' and the program then picks up it's standard for daylight . . . but both ACR and Aperture use the 4891 and -5 value - isn't it more likely that when you set the camera to 'daylight' then it puts specific values into the raw file which is then picked up by the program?
Mind you, the Aperture value for the M8 is different from that in ACR, and both are quite different (much warmer) than the ones for the D3.
Good Question - I don't know what happens in Lightroom, but Aperture doesn't have a specific 'daylight' temperature (you can make up your own presets for it). If you change the colour temperature it doesn't change the tint automatically.Jono,
if you were to take one of the AWB shots and change it to daylight in Aperture, what does the program do with the tint? I am not experienced in dealing with the tint and how the RAW converters change the tint when you change the temperature. This will probably spawn some other questions from me but my brain is only working in little baby steps right now.
Soooo....Good Question - I don't know what happens in Lightroom, but Aperture doesn't have a specific 'daylight' temperature (you can make up your own presets for it). If you change the colour temperature it doesn't change the tint automatically.
HI ThereSoooo....
Before you made this change to using daylight had you been adjusting the tint or only the temps when you were trying to fix the yellow problems? It would be interesting to see if you took the AWB shots and changed the Temp and time to be exactly like the daylight shots and see if there are any exposure differences or if everything then looks exactly the same.
HI ThereGood stuff to know. I had always heard the AWB was pretty good in the D300, so I tried a few just to check. These were converted directly to JPEG from Capture NX with direct sunlight on the left and AWB on the right. I like the direct sunlight WB better as well.
C1 4i have to check C1 but i think it is lower also
Well now you know a good setting for your shots and if you are in AWB ever again you have a home base that you can adjust to that looks good to you.HI There
Yes - if you change the temp to 4981 and the tint to -5 then the shots are identical (phew!). I guess that's LCT's point - but if you're going to batch change all your pictures to daylight . . . . why not shoot them like that in the first place! (of course, until RobMac chipped in, I didn't even know what the standard settings for daylight were).