rollsman44
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I am in the process of buying a H1 with 80 f2.8 and P30+ back. Is there much of a difference between this hassey and Canon 5D MK2 with Good Glass?
Thank you, rollsman
Thank you, rollsman
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Yes there is a difference. The question is can you realize those gains at your intended output. Does the difference THEN matter to you?I am in the process of buying a H1 with 80 f2.8 and P30+ back. Is there much of a difference between this hassey and Canon 5D MK2 with Good Glass?
This is a slippery slope that I've been navigating for years...I am on a budget( $6000) Can you recommend a system with a digital back for this amout and still be better then the Canon 5D MK2? I see the Mamiya 645AFD is reasonable but not sure how much the DB will cost me and which one to get for my budget. Thank you very much, rollsman
Looking at the recent favorite portrait film thread reminds me that it really wasn't that long ago, that I was shooting weddings with a Mamiya 645AF and 645AFD with Portra and did just fine. Obviously the latest Mamiya/Phase bodies are much better and more capable yet with MFDBs (flexibility changing iso with a button instead of a filmback) It just goes to show you how far tech has come along, making the top-tier DSLRs the better choice for weddings and movement, and producing better wedding images than their film counterparts. DSLRs are just easier for weddings.As much as I like my AFD II, I would never shoot a full wedding with it. It is very limiting (speed, high ISO, file size, comfort ...). ....
Good points.Looking at the recent favorite portrait film thread reminds me that it really wasn't that long ago, that I was shooting weddings with a Mamiya 645AF and 645AFD with Portra and did just fine. Obviously the latest Mamiya/Phase bodies are much better and more capable yet with MFDBs (flexibility changing iso with a button instead of a filmback) It just goes to show you how far tech has come along, making the top-tier DSLRs the better choice for weddings and movement, and producing better wedding images than their film counterparts. DSLRs are just easier for weddings.
In your initial post you said you were in the process of buying a H1 and P30+ ... in this post you say you are looking for a $6,000 kit, and considering a Mamiya 645 and some less expensive back.I am on a budget( $6000) Can you recommend a system with a digital back for this amout and still be better then the Canon 5D MK2? I see the Mamiya 645AFD is reasonable but not sure how much the DB will cost me and which one to get for my budget. Thank you very much, rollsman
Logical if you want to compete with 100,000 housewives with Digital Rebels that shoot 2,000 images per wedding and employ zero editing skills ... all at minimum wage rates.Good points.
In the past when shooting film with MF, you were probably shooting far fewer shots than current wedding photographers shoot with dSLR which made it a little more manageable.
Considering current dSLR's offer resolution equal to or better than MF film, much faster capture rates, better autofocus, and much better high ISO noise performance than MFDB, and seeing how wedding shooters now tend to shoot hundreds (thousands) of images, dSLR seems the only logical choice when shooting weddings.
Amen, we hardly ever deliver more than 350. We usually average 300, and that's it. How can someone want more? I don't get it...Logical if you want to compete with 100,000 housewives with Digital Rebels that shoot 2,000 images per wedding and employ zero editing skills ... all at minimum wage rates.
It's a Mac Donald's mentality where quantity has replaced quality. Super-size me is the watchword of the day.
I liked Jeff Ascough's answer when asked how many images he provides ... around 200. "That's not very many, others give a lot more" ... at which point Jeff scatters 200 proofs on the floor ... end of conversation. (Yes, he shoots more than 200, but he edits well, and yes he currently uses a DSLR ... mostly on manual if I recall correctly).
What clients do with 1,000+ photos mystifies me ... they NEVER use them all. They just think they want them.
I think if you can expand your MFDB budget by $2K more you'd be a lot happier. Seriously. $8K puts you in Phase P30 territory---ideal for portraits, groups, et al. Lotsa bang for the buck.I want to explain my original thread: I want to get a MF with a DB for appr $6000. I will only be using it for my portraits and groups and some other wedding shots, I will use my Other Canon 5D for the majority of the work. It does not matter which system I get as long as its IQ is very good and in my budget. thanks, rollsman
Okay, given those restrictions and specific applications I'd highly recommend a simple solution which I've actually used for weddings and portraits while also using a Canon 5D as my DSLR ... and can therefore endorse it based on direct experience.I want to explain my original thread: I want to get a MF with a DB for appr $6000. I will only be using it for my portraits and groups and some other wedding shots, I will use my Other Canon 5D for the majority of the work. It does not matter which system I get as long as its IQ is very good and in my budget. thanks, rollsman