rollsman44
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I am now semi retired and shoot mainly for pleasure with some portraits and Group shots. I would only need a prime and a Portrait lens for what I do. Anyone can give me their experience with either. Thank you
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This is a pretty broad question. Without previous preferences for portrait and group work on your part, it could be almost anything. Do you shoot more candidly and/or more spontaneously? Or do you work with the subjects to get what you want? Do you use lighting, or at least bounce reflectors?I am now semi retired and shoot mainly for pleasure with some portraits and Group shots. I would only need a prime and a Portrait lens for what I do. Anyone can give me their experience with either. Thank you
I appreciate the great feedback. I agree about the lenses. I am going to stay with the Pentax 645Z . You all have made my decision Much easier. Thank you.
I don't own a Leica SL, and probably never will. But I find your statement a bunch of hogwash, no need to generalize, there's plenty of people who own a Leica to use it just like any other camera.The Leica SL is a luxury camera for enthusiasts who want to be able to say that they own a Leica.
I mean it's a 7 thousand dollar camera with sensor performance lagging behind the original A7. Sure anyone could buy it and make great use of it but why on earth would they? To get the best out of those two equally overpriced and oversized variable aperture zooms? Wow, exciting. Then as we all know from the long thread on this site about Leica service horror stories if the thing breaks down your personal hell has only just begun. The M is one thing and I am glad it exists, I loved mine and was forced to sell it recently because I need a car for a relocation from NYC. But the SL? It's an inferior copy of better cameras wrapped in some nice metals and paint. Hard pass. At least when Hasselblad announced the X1D they were smart enough to make two lenses available AT LAUNCH. And the X1D with a lens is cheaper to boot. Do I have to spell this out or something? What does not compute? Even if you want the best 35mm mirrorless can offer an A7RII with Batis lenses is as good as it gets. But why does that not work? Oh yeah because it's so scary to be driving with a Sony instead of the red-dot fever. Even though Sony sensors are the best in the business and the BSI sensor in the A7RII is state of the art bar none, no way, you can pay 3 times as much and say you have a Leica!!! I would never talk anyone out of buying the M or the Q, but every other camera they make (or fake) has some fatal flaw even beyond the absurd prices.I don't own a Leica SL, and probably never will. But I find your statement a bunch of hogwash, no need to generalize, there's plenty of people who own a Leica to use it just like any other camera.
I don't own a Leica SL, and probably never will. But I find your statement a bunch of hogwash, no need to generalize, there's plenty of people who own a Leica to use it just like any other camera.
You're welcome, I'm glad to help out for what little I can.First, let me thank you all for contributing your experience. I have the 645Z but was considering buying the Leica SL and see which was better for me then sell one of them. I decided to Keep the 645Z. I do like the S1 but I was fortunate enough to handle it at B&H a few months ago. ITS HEAVY and without the lens. Way too heavy for me. The 645Z is really not that bad in terms of weight and handles very well. So, for now I wii hold on to it. I have several Prime lenses which I like very much. Over the years of buying and selling different cameras and lenses I realize that I still have to Post Process the images so why spend a fortune . Thanks again. The forum members are Super people.
I have no problem with your opinion on the technical capabilities of the SL camera (although you forgot to mention weather sealing), but I remain with my point that it's bad form to take a dig at the owners of that camera in general. In my mind that's not the spirit of GetDPI. We should come here to discuss technical aspects of systems and enjoy photographs, and not to stereotype owners of certain equipment.I mean it's a 7 thousand dollar camera with sensor performance lagging behind the original A7. Sure anyone could buy it and make great use of it but why on earth would they? To get the best out of those two equally overpriced and oversized variable aperture zooms? Wow, exciting. Then as we all know from the long thread on this site about Leica service horror stories if the thing breaks down your personal hell has only just begun. The M is one thing and I am glad it exists, I loved mine and was forced to sell it recently because I need a car for a relocation from NYC. But the SL? It's an inferior copy of better cameras wrapped in some nice metals and paint. Hard pass. At least when Hasselblad announced the X1D they were smart enough to make two lenses available AT LAUNCH. And the X1D with a lens is cheaper to boot. Do I have to spell this out or something? What does not compute? Even if you want the best 35mm mirrorless can offer an A7RII with Batis lenses is as good as it gets. But why does that not work? Oh yeah because it's so scary to be driving with a Sony instead of the red-dot fever. Even though Sony sensors are the best in the business and the BSI sensor in the A7RII is state of the art bar none, no way, you can pay 3 times as much and say you have a Leica!!! I would never talk anyone out of buying the M or the Q, but every other camera they make (or fake) has some fatal flaw even beyond the absurd prices.
While I may also question why someone may choose to use a specific brand of camera, and am a passionate advocate of the 645Z, I also value the tone and culture of this site and would be very sad to see that eroded. We generally seem to have a gentle, supportive mood...I have no problem with your opinion on the technical capabilities of the SL camera (although you forgot to mention weather sealing), but I remain with my point that it's bad form to take a dig at the owners of that camera in general. In my mind that's not the spirit of GetDPI. We should come here to discuss technical aspects of systems and enjoy photographs, and not to stereotype owners of certain equipment.
Why? It is not a medium format camera. Perhaps, the fabulous price is in that area but the sensor size would indicate otherwise.Without further thinking - there is only one choice - Leica SL