Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
I think they need to send Guy a P65 Plus. Who said that. LOL
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That could be the case, Guy, but that still does not answer the question about the posted shots looking so......um....uninspiring or convincingI think they need to send Guy a P65 Plus. Who said that. LOL
I agree completely and was shocked at how poor the 1600 ISO crops on the LL looked. And those were from 15mp files. In response to such criticism, Michael Reichman responded quite brusquely that he and several others who had tested the P65 considered it the finest imaging device in history, and critical comments about image quality from those who had not personally tested the P65 were "gratuitous." Of course, the imaging quality at 60mp was not the issue at all, and nobody questioned it. It was a straw man. The real issue framed by his "review" of the Sensor Plus Technology was the quality of the 15mp files from the P65 at 1600 ISO, and his assertion that the Sensor Plus Technology was a "game changer." From what I saw in that article, if you compare the quality of 15 mp ISO 1600 files from the P65 with 25mp files from the D3X at 1600 ISO, the Nikon will blow them away. If that is a game changer, it is a very sad commentary on the state of technological innovation in the medium format digital marketplace.Not sure if it is just me or what, but the posted results are not terribly impressive. And if one goes into the discussion forum on LL, they will read a lot of the same sort of impressions....not a great showing, or results (after binning down to 15MP) that pale in comparison to almost any 16-25MP DSLR today.
I think we need some more looks at things, but the stuff MR posted is not really all that impressive. Actually, Guy's "pushed" shots with his P25+ look more acceptable than the P65+ with Sensor+ technology engaged at the higher ISO. I remain unconvinced at this point that Sensor+ is doing all that much. What do others see and think at this point?
LJ
This is exactly the test I personally ran last Friday.This is a more realistic test -- photographing something at night, lit by either artificial light, the moon, or the last bits of daylight. In these situations the light source will be blown out, your shadows will be completely black, and the main area of the photo will be on the dark side, but must contain good detail. This is what I would like from medium format digital, but I have not seen it yet. It is what the D3 does so well. What you need is a sensor that can render clipped blacks with unobtrusive noise, no banding, while maintaining good color saturation, details in the midtones, and pure whites.
Anyway, those are the sorts of tests I would be interested in seeing -- I am not as interested in shooting at 1/500th and f/8 in moderate light levels, I am interested in getting a great image from the sensor when you are shooting at 1/4th and f/2.8 at ISO 3200.
You pass on the back upgrade and get one? :thumbup: Or, you pick jobs that work better with the MF gear you have and shoot now?I know I know but what IF . LOL You don't have one. LOL