Dale Allyn
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Willem, can you post some photos of your Multiflex? They don't need to be catalogue quality shots, just shots that show us a production sample, as opposed to product shots on a company website.
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Following is the email they sent to me...probably confusion in communicating in engrish, but it sounded like Really Big Cameras woud distribute the Multiflex too....but final language looks more like a direct sale. In retrospect, I'm going to hold off from considering either product and buy other toys....As I wrote earlier, ReallyBigCameras does not carry the PhotoClam MultiFlex, though they do carry the ballheads...
Cheers,
Kumar
He doesn't have the MultiFlex in stock, because he doesn't carry it.Following is the email they sent to me...probably confusion in communicating in engrish, but it sounded like Really Big Cameras woud distribute the Multiflex too....but final language looks more like a direct sale. In retrospect, I'm going to hold off from considering either product and buy other toys.... ken
Dear Ken, * I reply your email few times but your mail box can't accept ours so i try to send the reply with this email. i hope it works this time.
Thank you for your interest our MultiFlex head.
We have a distributor for our ballheads and camera plate in US but he doesn't have MultiFlex in stock.
Sukue
Greed, Greed, Greed.I don't get all the assumptions about fair markup or value here. Should any company only be allowed to charge a 30% over cost markup on products? This is not how the world works.
How much does it cost to mine and polish a one carrot diamond? How much do they sell it for?
How much does it cost to make an ipod?
Do the $400.00 jeans everyone here in L.A. wears everyday cost more to make than the $50.00 jeans people in Lincoln Nebraska wear?
It's a little astonishing to me that here we have photographers selling fine art prints and images for advertising who have no notion about pricing, branding, value. Why should one landscape photographer here be selling prints for $200.00 while another sells them for $2,000.00. Does it cost the second photographer that much more to make the print and take the image? Is this discussion really happening?
In the film industry you spend $500,000.00 on a set of prime lenses for your camera.
Here is a $1300.00 lens shade: http://www.filmtools.com/arri-lmb-5-matte-box.html
I think this is a $3000.00 quick release plate: http://www.filmtools.com/arri-338350-338352-digi-cine-baseplate.html
I found this tripod head used on the internet for $25,000.00... the same price as my Prius: http://www.arri.de/camera/accessories/support_systems/arrihead_2.html
Would anyone like to argue how fair pricing is with so many other things in life? T-shirts? Housing prices? $130.00 a month cell phone bill for the iPhone?
Actually, that's just a matte box. you need to spend a few thousand more on accessories. :ROTFL:Here is a $1300.00 lens shade: http://www.filmtools.com/arri-lmb-5-matte-box.html
It is possible that the MultiClam may only be sold in certain parts of the world, due to licensing or patent issues. In that case the offer to sell to Ken would not be something they would want public. This theory would support some comments made about this situation on LL, in an earlier Cube thread.Admin note: Ken requested I remove the Photo Clam email because he got an email from them requesting that. This is an extremely weird situation, but I have complied with the request(s)...
I don't get all the assumptions about fair markup or value here. Should any company only be allowed to charge a 30% over cost markup on products? This is not how the world works.
How much does it cost to mine and polish a one carrot diamond? How much do they sell it for?
How much does it cost to make an ipod?
Do the $400.00 jeans everyone here in L.A. wears everyday cost more to make than the $50.00 jeans people in Lincoln Nebraska wear?
It's a little astonishing to me that here we have photographers selling fine art prints and images for advertising who have no notion about pricing, branding, value. Why should one landscape photographer here be selling prints for $200.00 while another sells them for $2,000.00. Does it cost the second photographer that much more to make the print and take the image? Is this discussion really happening?
In the film industry you spend $500,000.00 on a set of prime lenses for your camera.
Here is a $1300.00 lens shade: http://www.filmtools.com/arri-lmb-5-matte-box.html
I think this is a $3000.00 quick release plate: http://www.filmtools.com/arri-338350-338352-digi-cine-baseplate.html
I found this tripod head used on the internet for $25,000.00... the same price as my Prius: http://www.arri.de/camera/accessories/support_systems/arrihead_2.html
Would anyone like to argue how fair pricing is with so many other things in life? T-shirts? Housing prices? $130.00 a month cell phone bill for the iPhone?
+1Gah, it just gets worse and worse. On that second page, I see a Wembley Sidekick, and Arca-Swiss B1 and the Cube. Do they do *anything* original??? Gawd, that bothers me to threads!
Hi :angel:You're joking, right?
Paying 1000$ for a COPY? I wouldn't even pay 10$ for a Rolex-copy, just because the Chinese "are very well know for their tooling and craftsmanship"... Okay, that was a bit unfair, South-Korea is not China, but it's not Switzerland, either... And this company has clearly copied 1:1 just to damage Arca-Swiss. Do we really need more (not so) cheap stuff? When I would work for Arca, I would be outrageous! The company I work for also has trouble with these copies, it lost the Swiss (and German and...) many thousand jobs of high-quality!
Do you think that you pay 1400$ extra for the name, they invest into their huge marketing-campaigns (and website... ;-) and building up their brand name... No, Arca is not Adidas, it's pure Swiss-quality with employees who work for generations in the precision industry.
Sorry, I work too hard for my money to spend 1000$ for a copy.
In software we do this all the time it's called "shameless copy". If you can't protect your ideas they are up for grabs that's how innovation proceeds.The Koreans copied it(Cbe) and made it even better for less money?
You do have to remember that not everyone is an engineer and 'quality' is subjective. No offense meant Anders, your observations may be 100% accurate - I have no experience of any of the items being discussed - but not everyone sees things the same way.Anders has an interesting point here - the new Ebony 6x17 model sells for 7175 pounds at Robert White. The corresponding Shen Hao sells at the same dealer for 1350 pounds. Though I really appreciate the build quality of my Ebony cameras, this price difference is too large to ignore. It's easy to dismiss the Shen Hao by assuming that the price difference is related to quality - Anders' statement about Shen Hao tells otherwise.