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    Oh sorry, didnt know, you dont want an essay but a fairytale
    Mark reduced to 3/10 for facetiousness...
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    A few more Sigma Merrill Dp2 images.
    This time without people.
    All in California.











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    Being stuck in the office despite the good weather, I thought I would suggest the following as the introduction for a short essay and wondered whether anyone might rise to the challenge

    "in my view, the Sigma DP [1,2 or 3] Merrill is the finest digital camera ever made for the following reasons..."
    It has the lure to discard the humdrum and find pleasures that will only be found under the Merlin's spell
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    I cannot give "likes", I click and nothing happens?
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    I cannot give "likes", I click and nothing happens?
    It's odd isn't it. I click like, and nothing appears to happen. But refresh the page some time later, and your like appears. Most of the time. And not with all browsers.....
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    Not sure the new format is working as well as the old. What is a "thank this post" supposed to be about? A "like" is enough, surely?
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    Not sure the new format is working as well as the old. What is a "thank this post" supposed to be about? A "like" is enough, surely?
    My thoughts, but maybe Thanks is to thank for finding a post helpful rather than enjoyment of say viewing an image . Yet I'd say the option is not necessary

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    Still traveling with the DP2M. Singapore, one is iso 1600.
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    It's raining elephants in Shoreditch, London

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    crops...photopro + lr5
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    From Singapore to Bangkok.
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    I really like the pictures posted in this thread and I'm tempted to buy a DP2M for myself. But I'm not a landscape photography enthusiast and I don't use tripod. My only opportunities to shoot pictures is during my early morning walks or late afternoon walks. I shoot both moving and non-moving subjects. In my country sunlight is plenty for most part of the year. I'm considering DP2M as a everyday walk-around camera. But I've read in almost every review of this camera that tripod use is advised for optimum sharpness. Is tripod an absolute necessity in your experience? For my kind of use does DP2M make sense? Your advice will be much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramana View Post
    I really like the pictures posted in this thread and I'm tempted to buy a DP2M for myself. But I'm not a landscape photography enthusiast and I don't use tripod. My only opportunities to shoot pictures is during my early morning walks or late afternoon walks. I shoot both moving and non-moving subjects. In my country sunlight is plenty for most part of the year. I'm considering DP2M as a everyday walk-around camera. But I've read in almost every review of this camera that tripod use is advised for optimum sharpness. Is tripod an absolute necessity in your experience? For my kind of use does DP2M make sense? Your advice will be much appreciated.
    If you pay attention to shutter speed a tripod is not needed to get perfectly sharp pictures. The DP3M is a little more demanding in this respect. The DP2M can also used for street with zone focusing. Sharpness at 200% magnification is not priority for this kind of shots imo. Zone focused shots from earlier today in Bangkok:
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    If you pay attention to shutter speed a tripod is not needed to get perfectly sharp pictures. The DP3M is a little more demanding in this respect. The DP2M can also used for street with zone focusing. Sharpness at 200% magnification is not priority for this kind of shots imo. Zone focused shots from earlier today in Bangkok:
    Thanks for your insightful response. I don't shoot slower than 1/40 on street and if the subject is human I don't shoot slower than 1/100. And I avoid shooting with ISO larger than 800. If I stick to this discipline I should be fine with DP2M?

    P.s. Your street pictures are nice! Thanks for sharing.

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    Wonderful advice from retow and beautiful photos to prove his point.

    Prior to purchasing the DP2M and DP3M I also was led to believe a tripod or monopod was useful if not a necessity. I've been shooting with these two Merrills for about a month now and I've only used a tripod once for a panorama. I will use a surface here and there occasionally for longer exposures but for the most part my shots are handheld.

    Here are a few photos (mostly street stuff) I've taken over the past month.

    http://www.thesmokingcamera.com/sigm...ork_california

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    Wonderful advice from retow and beautiful photos to prove his point.

    Prior to purchasing the DP2M and DP3M I also was led to believe a tripod or monopod was useful if not a necessity. I've been shooting with these two Merrills for about a month now and I've only used a tripod once for a panorama. I will use a surface here and there occasionally for longer exposures but for the most part my shots are handheld.

    Here are a few photos (mostly street stuff) I've taken over the past month.

    http://www.thesmokingcamera.com/sigm...ork_california

    Good luck.
    Good insight . I'd also add that if you wish to use raw's for B+W and using the blue channel in the SPP monochrome converter , there is no concern whatever for high iso's 3200 is as clean as clean if exposed correctly, enabling the shutter speed to be kept high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Smoking Camera View Post
    Wonderful advice from retow and beautiful photos to prove his point.

    Prior to purchasing the DP2M and DP3M I also was led to believe a tripod or monopod was useful if not a necessity. I've been shooting with these two Merrills for about a month now and I've only used a tripod once for a panorama. I will use a surface here and there occasionally for longer exposures but for the most part my shots are handheld.

    Here are a few photos (mostly street stuff) I've taken over the past month.

    Joe Marquez - The Smoking Camera | Sigma Merrill Dp2 Dp3 Photography

    Good luck.
    Those are lovely street pictures! And thanks for sharing your experience.
    When using zone focus perhaps an external viewfinder can help reduce shake since one can press the camera against the forehead. Shooting handheld using live view at an,arms distance is always prone to shake.
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    Good insight . I'd also add that if you wish to use raw's for B+W and using the blue channel in the SPP monochrome converter , there is no concern whatever for high iso's 3200 is as clean as clean if exposed correctly, enabling the shutter speed to be kept high.
    Great tip! Not a bad idea for me to switch to b&w when the lighting conditions demand high ISO, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramana View Post
    Those are lovely street pictures! And thanks for sharing your experience.
    When using zone focus perhaps an external viewfinder can help reduce shake since one can press the camera against the forehead. Shooting handheld using live view at an,arms distance is always prone to shake.
    Thanks. At slower shutter speeds I use my lightweight neckstrap and hold it taut around my neck and outstretched arms to reduce camera shake. My guess is it gives me an extra stop or so. And another great tip from adrewdecourcy. Some very talented and intelligent photographers using Merrills.
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    Thanks. At slower shutter speeds I use my lightweight neckstrap and hold it taut around my neck and outstretched arms to reduce camera shake. My guess is it gives me an extra stop or so. And another great tip from adrewdecourcy. Some very talented and intelligent photographers using Merrills.
    That's another great tip! Thanks for sharing.

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    DP2M, a few more street shots from Bangkok:
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    And a few more zone focused ones.
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    retow, how do you meter? Faces are all too dark

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    And a few more zone focused ones.
    These are quite sharp at least to my eyes. Did you prefocus and lock the focus? That's the method Joe recommended to me earlier, I was wondering if there are any other method of zone focusing?

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    retow, how do you meter? Faces are all too dark
    Thanks for your input. Mostly they are matrix metered, spot metering would have been better it seems. However, I started using Lightroom recently (Aperture before) and am still learning how best to tweak the Foveon tiff files. Most of my Sigma tiffs seem underexposed once imported into Lightroom. Not something I was used to when working with Aperture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramana View Post
    These are quite sharp at least to my eyes. Did you prefocus and lock the focus? That's the method Joe recommended to me earlier, I was wondering if there are any other method of zone focusing?
    Except the last one, these are all zone focused.

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    Thanks for your input. Mostly they are matrix metered, spot metering would have been better it seems. However, I started using Lightroom recently (Aperture before) and am still learning how best to tweak the Foveon tiff files. Most of my Sigma tiffs seem underexposed once imported into Lightroom. Not something I was used to when working with Aperture.
    Interesting this. I will always say to myself to treat every file as an individual file and treat it as is required. Yet of late I have been exporting from SPP with the Tiff 16bit files on the darker side. I have been finding in general it easier to bring the Tiff file and not lose detail colour etc in the shadows, this being slightly easier than bring back highlights. This is of course if the Raw has been exposed well in the shadows. I read someone else doing this with success and the way I work it suits as well.
    I do though have a preference for Cs6 over LR and start the Tiff in camera raw, but that's because I am more attuned to CS6

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    HELIGAN WOODS by Julian .., on Flickr
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    Part of marble dry fountain setup that is often used as a wedding venue at Bonnet House.
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    Mansion
    No Leica MM + whatever APO lens can touch the level of detail of the shots above.
    1920px wide is available for preview when clicked.
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    No Leica MM + whatever APO lens can touch the level of detail of the shots above.
    I've not tried it, but I expect the new Leica monochrome is very good, but is it any better than a DP2M mono converted image? I doubt it, and the disparity in cost is extreme.

    I would go so far as to say the DP2M is one of the finest mono cameras ever made. The Quattros are nearly as good, but with well know weaknesses.
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    That's true. I'm actually trying some fine and expensive camera systems but damn, the Merrill is far beyond in b&w. Only bokeh is a problem but for anything else it look the best b&w machine ever made (apart big films). I use a M9 actually with an utterly expensive 50 on it. It is good but not Merrill good (in B&W).
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    Slightly tweaked.

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    Astrantia Major

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    More street art appears regularly around Brick Lane



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    Quentin, great set of very Merrill-like color shots! You are on fire
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    Beach in a bottle
    Shot in B&W, developed in LR and Perfect Effects 9

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Bargate View Post
    I've not tried it, but I expect the new Leica monochrome is very good, but is it any better than a DP2M mono converted image? I doubt it, and the disparity in cost is extreme.

    I would go so far as to say the DP2M is one of the finest mono cameras ever made. The Quattros are nearly as good, but with well know weaknesses.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hulyss Bowman View Post
    That's true. I'm actually trying some fine and expensive camera systems but damn, the Merrill is far beyond in b&w. Only bokeh is a problem but for anything else it look the best b&w machine ever made (apart big films). I use a M9 actually with an utterly expensive 50 on it. It is good but not Merrill good (in B&W).
    Both in B&W and color, the DP2 M renders beautiful images. The images in this page are phenomenal. I have also captured very good images with my DP2-M and they might rival the Leica MM. I haven't tried one yet, but I do shoot with a M240 and various Leica lenses. I'd say that the Leica makes beautiful images as long as the photographer is good. same as the DP2-M.

    However, good as the DP2-M is for rendering colors and detail (including all this shades of grey), it is not IMHO, nearly as good as the Leica (and other cameras too), simply because is much more difficult to shoot with. Only if I shoot with my DP2-M almost exclusively, and often, I get lots of very bad pictures because it's so unforgiving. That's my only complaint about my DP2-M

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    Quentin, great set of very Merrill-like color shots! You are on fire
    I agree, but I wonder if the Rolex fits to the romantic look of the girl^^
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    I agree, but I wonder if the Rolex fits to the romantic look of the girl^^
    Many thanks. To answer the question, probably not but then again this was not set up as a portrait shot just a very casual shot that ended up a bit better than I had expected (well spotted by the way! I did try to lengthen the jumper sleever to cover it but ended up leaving as is).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malina DZ View Post
    Quentin, great set of very Merrill-like color shots! You are on fire
    Appreciated . The second of the two shots really shows the benefit of the Merrill sensor. I have rezzed it up to 36x24 inches, and it retains excellent acutance and detail. I reckon that printed at that size, it would be indistinguishable from 4x5 film. The sensor just feeds off the detail.
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