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    G1 vs E-P1: why the difference in price?

    well obviously because

    but unless there is something I'm missing, why is it that the E-P1 seems to be at least 50% dearer used than a G1 (sometimes even a New G1)?

    just wondering ...

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    Re: G1 vs E-P1: why the difference in price?

    Metal body, no pop up flash, readily accessible custom skins, need I go on?

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    Re: G1 vs E-P1: why the difference in price?

    The E-P1 is a newer camera and hasn't been superceded while the G1's replacement has been announced.

    From a styling perspective, the E-P1 cashes in on the mirrorless theme while the G1 is styled like a mini dSLR.

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    Re: G1 vs E-P1: why the difference in price?

    I have the Pen 1. I bought a G1 as a backup and different form.
    I have sold the G1 this week and am getting a nice used Pen 2.
    I'll never sell the Pens. I never bonded with the G1 even if it's a better camera and it is.
    The form turns me off and I think that is the reason it doesn't hold value like the Pens.
    Aside from the mechanics of the cameras, aestheticaly the Pen wins.

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    Re: G1 vs E-P1: why the difference in price?

    camera fetish...*

    Quote Originally Posted by Streetshooter View Post
    I have the Pen 1. I bought a G1 as a backup and different form.
    I have sold the G1 this week and am getting a nice used Pen 2.
    I'll never sell the Pens. I never bonded with the G1 even if it's a better camera and it is.
    The form turns me off and I think that is the reason it doesn't hold value like the Pens.
    Aside from the mechanics of the cameras, aestheticaly the Pen wins.
    * :sleep006:

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    Re: G1 vs E-P1: why the difference in price?

    Some people prefer the form--and it has a 'nostalgic' look. I have both the GF1 and G1--and while I enjoy shooting with the smaller form, for times marked for shooting (as opposed to carrying a camera 'in case') I always choose the G1 for better ergonomics, tilt screen, big bright EVF. I can see me carrying the GF1 (similar form to EP1) as second camera to my 5D sometimes, and it always goes as second body to my G1, but I wouldn't choose that 'form' as my one and only m4/3rds.

    So--I do think its the form/style that captures people mostly--some just don't like that 'mini DSLR' look--though its functional--MORE functional IMO. And still--with the EP1--NO chance for an EVF. I looked and shot with one when they came out and waited for the GF1/EVF. But--I knew even then it would not be the 'main' m4/3rds. I'm not as caught up with looks of a camera--though I still have some 'old' film cams sitting on my shelf (unused LOL).

    Edit: I also think people know the G2 and G10 are coming--but if you like the EP1 style and don't care about an EVF--and can get it cheaper (not much other differences to EP2 as I understand it--and EP1L is below it), then it seems a good choice in an OLy m4/3rds. I think we are all expecting 'some' changes to the G2 and so people are willing to wait--and pay more for it as opposed to the older G1. At least this is what I 'think' LOL.

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    Re: G1 vs E-P1: why the difference in price?

    I'm no specialist in manufacturing and marketing photoigraphic equipment but I think both of them (like nearly every gadget) have their pros and cons. G1 looks and feels cheaper but it has some qualities that EP-1 lacks, like big articulated screen and electronic viewfinder.

    I've got one of each -- and I think they complement each other in a very practical way. On G1 I mostly use micro- and tele lenses and oin EP-1 wideangles and normals. Whatever the price is, I think they both are well worth of it.

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    Re: G1 vs E-P1: why the difference in price?

    I too have both, the G1 and EP1. The G1 is a mini-DSLR (nothing special in terms of body style and/or functions). However, the EVF is a must (for me) when it comes to using MF lenses. It makes it much much easier to focus than using the EP1 LCD. The built in flash is also a big plus. The EP1 on the other hand, has style. It's a solid little camera that feels and looks good. Add to that the fact that it comes packed with innovative features and produces excellent images, and there's the answer as to why the EP1 is so dear to so many of us. If I had to sell one of the two, probably it would be the EP1 simply because of the lack of EVF. I really enjoy shooting with those legacy lenses.
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    Re: G1 vs E-P1: why the difference in price?

    Diane, Tikkis and Tullio...I couldn't agree more.

    The EP's are nice. And if you want that nostalgic look that's certainly the way to go. But as far as utility goes, they're simply no match for the faux DSLR like quality of the G's.

    For all the reasons you've all cited: Fabulous AF (which, ironically, the EP can't seem to match), decent optics (three great lenses: 20mm f1.7 and the two zooms encompassing 7-140mm an amazing kit not to mention the adapters that allow manual focusing some of the finest optics ever made), the articulating screen (which has come in handy more times than I care to remember..it's great for close-ups, great for low, high and off angle shooting and when shooting portraits it makes the camera feel like the old twin-lens reflex cameras when you're looking down at the bright clear screen), the fabulous EVF which, after living with the Leica D2 for many years is literally an eye-opening experience (plus, if I got the EP-1 or the GF1 I'd probably want the EVF anyway so I may as well stick with the G1 or GH1). Anything else? Oh yeah, reasonably low noise at the low ISO's that rival the best out there (and, as I've recently discovered) even more fine-tuned with Lightroom 3) and accurate color also rivaling the best out there.

    All in a very compact, very hold-able and far from bulky package.
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    Re: G1 vs E-P1: why the difference in price?

    The G1 really is a great value, which is why I bought one as my first M4/3 body. (Purchased refurbished from Amazon's Warehouse Deals site.)

    The articulated LCD and the very nice EVF make manual focusing very easy. And when you're using a heavy lens with an adapter the large grip is reassuringly solid.

    But it really is like a DSLR. I've come to think of it as a slightly smaller Rebel than can use a somewhat wider selection of vintage glass. Which is very nice in its way, but not quite what I was hoping for.

    And, of course, it doesn't have in-body image stabilization. That's something I miss more than I expected. Especially since Panasonic chose to have the G1 automatically use a very dubious 1/30 of a second minimum shutter speed if a third-party lens is attached.

    I've been seriously considering buying a body-only E-P1, new or used. Or even a E-PL1 for cost and the more convenient focus assist feature.

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