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    E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    As of 2016.02.04 and according to

    Joint update service for OLYMPUS E-SYSTEM - OLYMPUS Digital Camera

    these are the latest firmware updates:

    E-M1 .............. 4.1 Feb. 04, 2016
    E-M5 Mark II ... 2.2 Feb. 04, 2016
    E-M5 .............. 2.2 Jan. 28, 2016
    E-M10 Mark II . 1.1 Jan. 28, 2016
    E-M10 ............ 1.3 Jan. 28, 2016
    With best regards, K-H.
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    The new stuff in this release seems to be image stabilization improvements (plus the usual unacknowledged bugfixes). Has anyone seen evidence for it?

    scott

    edit: E-P5 and E-PL5,6,7 are also offered updates. All affect image stabilization. I didn't see any lens updates since last year.
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    wow, thanks for the info. did not know there was a 4.1 update for the E-M1 already! Still getting uesd to the new silent electronic shutter feature
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Many thanks for the info! Updated EM1 to 4.1 and works perfectly!

    Kudos to Olympus for following that firmware update trend like Fuji does!

    Will also see the PenF on next Sunday in person to try it out - keep fingers crossed I do not get infected, but there is not much hope
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    I've also updated my EM1 from 4.0 to 4.1 and the result is .....







    ..... that it's not a brick

    Thanks for the heads up .

    I've also updated my 12-40 Pro as somehow I missed last November's update
    for this lens .

    and Viewer 3.
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    I just updated OLYMPUS Viewer 3 to version 2.0.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elderly View Post
    I've also updated my EM1 from 4.0 to 4.1 and the result is .....







    ..... that it's not a brick

    Thanks for the heads up .

    I've also updated my 12-40 Pro as somehow I missed last November's update
    for this lens .

    and Viewer 3.
    I too wasn't aware that the 12-40 had an update I missed. Luckily I had the lens mounted when I did the update. From now on I'll start checking Olympus Update Service on all my lenses Firmware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zensu View Post
    I too wasn't aware that the 12-40 had an update I missed. Luckily I had the lens mounted when I did the update. From now on I'll start checking Olympus Update Service on all my lenses Firmware.
    Bobby
    Strange - I too had the lens attached (I think) when I did the update to 4.0,
    but this time (4.1) I definitely had the lens attached, however I had to do separate updates for both the body and the lens. Could it be because I updated via Viewer 3 ?
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Quote Originally Posted by Elderly View Post
    Strange - I too had the lens attached (I think) when I did the update to 4.0,
    but this time (4.1) I definitely had the lens attached, however I had to do separate updates for both the body and the lens. Could it be because I updated via Viewer 3 ?

    Thanks Ian. No, I don't think so. I am using the Updater or Viewer 3 with camera and lens attsched. It lists what needs to be updated. Then I choose one item at a time that then is updated. On to the next. I had also missed updating a lens and Viewer 3. So I updated those as well.

    My 3 cameras E-M1, E-M5, and E-M5.2 now have the latest FW versions, as well as my Olympus lenses and the one Panasonic/Leica lens that I have, the Nocticron 42.5/1.2. However, my 2 Sigma lenses 19 and 30 mm never seem to get updated. My guess those 2 are not considered by the Olympus/Panasonic MFT eco system.
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    Playing catch up. Almost everything in my m43 set got its update last weekend...


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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    As of 2016.02.04 and according to

    Joint update service for OLYMPUS E-SYSTEM - OLYMPUS Digital Camera

    these are the latest firmware updates:

    E-M1 .............. 4.1 Feb. 04, 2016
    E-M5 Mark II ... 2.2 Feb. 04, 2016
    E-M5 .............. 2.2 Jan. 28, 2016
    E-M10 Mark II . 1.1 Jan. 28, 2016
    E-M10 ............ 1.3 Jan. 28, 2016
    Thanks for that. The settings appear not being zero'd this time

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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Recently there has been some discussion about peculiarities of 4/3 systems in general and Olympus gear in particular.

    Life without IBIS on halfway release. Life without IBIS on halfway release.: Micro Four Thirds Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review
    IBIS v. OIS - a quick comparison. IBIS v. OIS - a quick comparison: Micro Four Thirds Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review
    E-M1 transformed by the new C-AF. E-M1 transformed by the new C-AF: Micro Four Thirds Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review
    Olympus OMD E-M5 Focus Peaking Trick. Olympus OMD E-M5 Focus Peaking Trick: Micro Four Thirds Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review
    Hidden Secrets of the E-M1.... Hidden Secrets of the E-M1....: Micro Four Thirds Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review
    Olympus E-M5 MK II Tips and Tricks Review. http://www.dpreview.com/forums/threa...-post-55564166
    One thing that makes me chuckle about the Oly f4 300mm… http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3947700?page=4
    Dual IS. http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3948494

    I thought it might be useful to have a closer look at some of these topics.
    Let's start with Menu items that deal with image stabilization, be it of the camera body or of the lens.
    (Note to myself: Of interest e.g. for my Lumix Leica DG Nocticron 42.5/1.2 ASPH. O.I.S. or the new Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 300mm F4 IS Pro with lens I.S.)

    Here are the menu image stabilization settings of E-M1, E-M5, and E-M5.2 that impact the camera body and lens.

    .......,E-M5,.......... Shooting Menu 2/Image Stabilizer/:..................................... Image Stabilizer mode for still S-IS, Image Stabilizer Focal Length.
    E-M1,.......,E-M5.2 Custom Menu/C Release/Image Stabilizer/:......................... Image Stabilizer mode for still and movie S-IS and M-IS.

    E-M1,E-M5,E-M5.2 Custom Menu/C Release/Image Stabilization or + IS Off/:.. Continuous shooting image stabilization mode On or Off.
    E-M1,E-M5,E-M5.2 Custom Menu/C Release/Half Way Rls With IS/:.................. Image stabilizer will work while shutter button is being pressed On or Off.
    E-M1,E-M5,E-M5.2 Custom Menu/C Release/Lens I.S. Priority/:........................ Select On to use lens I.S, On or Off.

    We see for the E-M5 still image stabilization is set in Shooting Menu 2 while for the E-M1 and E-M5.2 still and movie image stabilization is set in Custom Menu/C Release. The other 3 settings are in the same menu location for all 3 cameras, namely those for • activating IBIS for continuous shooting, • activating IBIS when pressing shutter button, and • activating lens I.S.

    Some of the issues, being discussed in the references above, deal with:

    • when to use IBIS or not,
    • use IBIS in continuous shooting mode or not,
    • have IBIS active while shutter button is half way pressed or not, and finally
    • how to use IBIS and lens I.S., differences for different cameras.
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Another peculiarity, indeed a nice feature, is having shutter speeds of up to 16,000.
    To find out what that could do, I went out in bright New Mexico sunlight with the Lumix Leica DG Nocticron 42.5/1.2 ASPH. O.I.S. and shot it at F/1.2!
    Two views of the same power pole structure.





    Olympus E-M1 + LEICA DG NOCTICRON 42.5/F1.2 @ F/1.2, 1/16000 s, ISO=160. Using Aperture priority mode and Auto ISO took care of the exposure.
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    To find out what that could do, I went out in bright New Mexico sunlight with the Lumix Leica DG Nocticron 42.5/1.2 ASPH. O.I.S. and shot it at F/1.2!
    Two views of the same power pole structure.
    s://winklers.smugmug.com/KHW/Pics-by-Date/2016-02-07-E-M1425f12/i-4GB28VL/0/O/_2070045_1401x1401.jpg[/IMG]

    Olympus E-M1 + LEICA DG NOCTICRON 42.5/F1.2 @ F/1.2, 1/16000 s, ISO=160. Using Aperture priority mode and Auto ISO took care of the exposure.[/QUOTE]

    Interesting points but what I find even more remarkable is the performance of this lens @f1.2.
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Quote Originally Posted by retow View Post
    Interesting points but what I find even more remarkable is the performance of this lens @f1.2.
    Thanks, I agree, pretty incredible IQ indeed IMHO.
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    The Sandhill Cranes are circling here already pretty high to gain even more height.
    The camera is shooting this picture from way below but from the side at about a 50 to 60 angle with respect to the ground.



    Olympus E-M5.2 + M.Zuiko Digital 40-150/2.8 PRO, @ 150 mm, F/2.8, 1/1000 s, ISO=100, IBIS On or Auto, handheld.

    I am really curious what image I can get with the 300/4 lens for this scenario.
    The lens will likely show up too late for the current crane migration.
    Oh well, there are plenty of other opportunities in the Spring when migratory birds return from south of the border!
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    Two musicians found a spot at the edge of town to practice their craft, just a short walk from the canyon rim.



    Olympus E-M5.2 + M.Zuiko Digital 40-150/2.8 PRO, @ 40 mm, F/2.8, 1/2000 s, ISO=2000, IBIS On or Auto.
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    A little while later the Sunset produces these gorgeous colors in a very narrow area of the sky.



    Olympus E-M5.2 + M.Zuiko Digital 40-150/2.8 PRO, @ 40 mm, F/2.8, 1/100 s, ISO=200.
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Delivery Update from Amazon for Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 300mm f4.0 PRO Lens (Black):

    Your new estimated delivery date is: Friday, March 18, 2016 - Wednesday, May 4, 2016
    With best regards, K-H.

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    That's quite an estimate, K-H ...

    - - - Updated - - -

    Luckily it is this year ...
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Yup Bart, it actually says 2016! That's sort of reassuring.
    I don't mind waiting a little bit in the hope that the new lens design has been thoroughly vetted by then.
    It's in stock here though: http://www.focuscamera.com/olympus-m..._term=11436057
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    K-H, don't forget to fill the fridge with food and drinks for the 7 weeks you will have to stay inside to receive the parcel !


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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Quote Originally Posted by f6cvalkyrie View Post
    K-H, don't forget to fill the fridge with food and drinks for the 7 weeks you will have to stay inside to receive the parcel !


    Have fun,
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    Rafael, you are so funny!
    I got this update today from Amazon: Your new estimated delivery date is: Friday, March 4, 2016

    And wonder what's going on?

    Looking forward to Friday though!
    With best regards, K-H.
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    "Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED..." has shipped. Arriving: Thursday, March 3
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    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    "Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED..." has shipped. Arriving: Thursday, March 3
    It's Friday March 4 now, or at least where I live ... , so what about it, K-H ?

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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    It's Friday March 4 now, or at least where I live ... , so what about it, K-H ?

    Well Bart, the Olympus 300/4 PRO lens was delivered shortly after 5 PM on March 3 and before the promised 8 PM deadline.
    I took a few shots when it was already getting darker.

    The first example is a 100% crop of 2100x1181 pixels shot at f/4.
    Distance to the mountains with the small fire look out station on top about 10 miles.
    Turbulence in the air had already died down and the lens delivers quite a bit of detail.




    Next is a shot of a telephone pole about 100 yards away. Distance to the mountains in the background again about 10 miles. Shot at f/4, no sharpening applied.




    And finally a 100% crop.



    I noticed two things when handling the lens.

    • The hood mechanism is slightly different from the one of the 40-150/2.8 PRO lens. There I actually can easily remove the retracted hood. I have not found a way to do that for the 300/4 lens.
    • The gap between the lens and the tripod foot isn't quite large enough so that I can stick my fingers in to hold the lens. However, the lens comes with an extra short ring segment so that one can swap out the tripod foot segment.

    Other than that the lens handles pretty well on my E-M1 with PBH and a peakdesignltd.com clutch (camera hand strap).

    Next I will add the Olympus MC-14 1.4x Teleconverter and EE-1 Dot Sight.
    It seems the Spring Sandhill Crane migration is already mostly over so I have to find some other photographic subjects.
    With best regards, K-H.
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    That's looking pretty good, K-H.
    Hope you still manage to catch some of the crane migration.
    Or when will it be time again for the hummingbirds ?

    Anyway, congrats and happy shooting !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    That's looking pretty good, K-H.
    Hope you still manage to catch some of the crane migration.
    Or when will it be time again for the hummingbirds ?

    Anyway, congrats and happy shooting !

    Many thanks Bart. No cranes today. Hummingbirds and Turkey Vultures should be back by mid April.
    Here is a 100% crop from today, 1988x1988 pixels.



    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/8, ISO=200, 1/160 s
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    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/11, ISO=200, 1/60 s
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    Thanks for the posts K-H.

    It looks that this lens in combo with the upcoming 20MP sensors in Olympus m43 cameras would allow for a killer combo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    Thanks for the posts K-H.

    It looks that this lens in combo with the upcoming 20MP sensors in Olympus m43 cameras would allow for a killer combo.

    Peter
    Yep, it sure is a killer lens !
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    I noticed two things when handling the lens.

    The hood mechanism is slightly different from the one of the 40-150/2.8 PRO lens. There I actually can easily remove the retracted hood. I have not found a way to do that for the 300/4 lens.
    The gap between the lens and the tripod foot isn't quite large enough so that I can stick my fingers in to hold the lens. However, the lens comes with an extra short ring segment so that one can swap out the tripod foot segment.

    Hi K-H, apparently the lens hood is fixed to the lens.
    From the manual:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    Hi K-H, apparently the lens hood is fixed to the lens.
    From the manual:
    Many thanks Bart. That's good to know.
    With best regards, K-H.

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    E-M5.2 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/5.6, ISO=1000, 1/640 s
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    E-M5.2 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/5.6, ISO=800, 1/500 s
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    E-M5.2 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/5.6, ISO=1250, 1/1250 s
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    E-M5.2 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/5.6, ISO=800, 1/1000 s
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    E-M5.2 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/5.6, ISO=1600, 1/1250 s
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    E-M5.2 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/5.6, ISO=100, 1/800 s
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Orion



    E-M5.2 + M.300mm F4.0 @ FL=300 mm, F/4, ISO=6,400, 1/25 s, hand held, manual exposure, IS set to On.

    In Menu Panel D the Live View Boost parameters are set to On1 so that one can see the above image in the EVF.
    Also I believe I used S-AF with focus on any point, Rls Priority Off and Silent Shutter.
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    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/5.6, ISO=3,200, 1/1000 s, Reposition in CS6.
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Great samples from your new lens, K-H !
    Thanks for sharing !

    CU,
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    E-M1/GH2/G1 Full Spectrum & lots of lenses
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/f6cvalk...th/9226689839/
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    Quote Originally Posted by f6cvalkyrie View Post
    Great samples from your new lens, K-H !
    Thanks for sharing !

    CU,
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    Thank you Rafael. Here is an image of Truchas Peak, NM, 13,100′. Line of sight about 20 miles.



    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/5.6, ISO=100, 1/1000 s
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    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/5.6, ISO=2000, 1/1000 s
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Mmm, you seem to have scared the birds ...

    The Oly 300 is a great lens and honestly I'm start doubting that PL 100-400 as to me most of the sample images are rather underwhelming.
    Oh well, we'll see.

    Kind regards.
    Bart ...
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Bart, I am having similar concerns!
    Cheers, Dave
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Many thanks Bart and Dave for your feedback.

    At this point I have been concentrating on my gear, namely E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2 and primarily Olympus lenses.
    Once the PL 100-400 is actually available and more or less a community consensus has been formed I will pay more or less attention to that lens.
    So, I have no opinion to offer about the IQ of the PL 100-400 at this time, but think the 100-400 range would be very useful.

    Back to my 6 MFT tele lenses that all get used on E-M1, E-M5, and E-M5.2.
    I would divide those near to far tele lenses into 4 groups, all very useful to me.

    1.) M.40-150/4-5.6 R, M.75-300/4.8-6.7 II

    2.) M.40-150/2.8 PRO, M.300/4 PRO and the 1.4x Teleconverter MC-14

    3.) M.60/2.8 MACRO

    4.) Leica DG NOCTICRON 42.5/1.2 ASPH

    The first group of lenses has been and still is pretty useful as walk around lenses.
    But now that I have the lenses of the second group, the lenses in the first group will see less use.
    The lenses in group 3.) and 4.) are really specialty lenses and a lot of fun.

    Back to group 2.)

    The image quality of those 2 lenses, even in combination with the MC-14, is remarkable IMHO. Please, note the examples above.
    The M.300/4 PRO can be used effectively with all 3 cameras, E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2 - provided they have been updated to the latest FW.
    On the E-M1 and E-M5.2 Lens IS of the 300/4 contributes Pitch and Yaw, whereas IBIS provides Roll, X and Y image stabilization.
    On the E-M5 X and Y image stabilization are missing, but the others are supported.
    Please note when focusing at infinity the X and Y image stabilization contributions vanish.
    Therefore for close up shots I prefer using the 300/4 lens on either the E-M1 or the E-M5.2.

    These two tele lenses have convinced me of the usefulness of MFT gear so that I prefer it over, for example, my Nikon D800E and AF-S 80-400/4.5-5.6 lens - unless focusing speed is paramount.
    However, I find the focusing accuracy of my mirrorless cameras superior to that of my DSLRs. Also, I find the MFT IQ competitive with FF systems - provided there is enough light.

    So, having multiple lenses ready on the 3 cameras, I don't see the need to add additional MFT tele lenses at this time.
    With best regards, K-H.
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Cruising at 40,000 feet - or BIF



    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/5.6, ISO=320, 1/1000 s, shot from ~ 6000 feet
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    Sandhill Cranes on 2016.02.28 - This was a few days before the M.300mm F4.0 arrived!

    Here they come ...




    And here they go.



    E-M5.2 + M.75-300/4.8-6.7 II @ FL=300 mm, F/6.7, ISO=100/160, 1/640 s
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