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Not much discussion about the 5Ds, despite deliveries ramping up slowly.
I played with one at my local photo store. It felt quite nice, the new LCD-type viewfinder (showing 1.6 and 1.3 crops directly in the viewfinder) was pretty cool.
The dynamic range of the files is the main reason. I have grown accustomed to the EVF (which will be even better in the A7r ll) and how I can manually focus with live view and nail the focus every time.Hi, what did you prefer about the files from the A7R and dislike about the 5DS files?
Mal...I've just had it for few days. I don't have anything to prove to you but the 5DS has blown me away with my 17mm T/S, 24mm T/S II and 300mm f/4. It is definitely a worthwhile upgrade from 5D Mark III. I tried sony A7R. IQ was great but the handling was not for me.
This is the best 35mm-DSLR I've ever used, including Nikon D810 and Sony A7R, for landscape photography and it's getting closer to MFD. It took my breath away the first time I looked @ the JPEG (at that time I didn't update my PS). If the 5DSR is slightly better, I don't care. The 5DS has already met my standard, same as IQ180 meeting my standard for MFDB. It may not look good on paper for ISO capability but I am a landscape photographer and use the camera on tripod most of the time. Compared to the 5D Mark III, it's significant better though.
I've chosen the 5DS because my previous experience with the D800 and D800e which I didn't see difference in IQ after the processing and on the print. I've got this one from the FM Forum in brand new condition with $500 discount.
Best regards,
Pramote
Like I have always stated , I want to like this camera - so any reservations I express are just that reservations not criticisms.Mal...I've just had it for few days. I don't have anything to prove to you but the 5DS has blown me away with my 17mm T/S, 24mm T/S II and 300mm f/4. It is definitely a worthwhile upgrade from 5D Mark III. I tried sony A7R. IQ was great but the handling was not for me.
This is the best 35mm-DSLR I've ever used, including Nikon D810 and Sony A7R, for landscape photography and it's getting closer to MFD. It took my breath away the first time I looked @ the JPEG (at that time I didn't update my PS). If the 5DSR is slightly better, I don't care. The 5DS has already met my standard, same as IQ180 meeting my standard for MFDB. It may not look good on paper for ISO capability but I am a landscape photographer and use the camera on tripod most of the time. Compared to the 5D Mark III, it's significant better though.
I've chosen the 5DS because my previous experience with the D800 and D800e which I didn't see difference in IQ after the processing and on the print. I've got this one from the FM Forum in brand new condition with $500 discount.
Best regards,
Pramote
Like I have always stated , I want to like this camera - so any reservations I express are just that reservations not criticisms.
It is good to know you are using this camera back to back with an IQ180 because that would be my situation exactly.
I have already purchased the new 11-24mm Canon super wide lens - but now having cold feet about the 5Ds/sr - just want to avoid the disappointment if I find the files not to my liking.
The camera would be my easy to go to camera when we travel - I have some really nice Canon lenses and all I am lacking for the Canon family is a good high res camera body - as I will keep my 1D mk4 -
So if at some stage you could share some RAW files for me to examine on my computer that would be fantastic. I will be away from my desk for the next seven or eight weeks on a field trip so there is no hurry.
So glad you are loving your camera.
Mal
Good read Chris! I like unabashed, real world reviews devoid of the herd mentality.
Thanks Marc. The AF is certainly much improved over the 5D3 and 1DX, speed is around the same yet the accuracy is better. Something has changed with this body in regards the AF.Good read Chris! I like unabashed, real world reviews devoid of the herd mentality.
As wedding shooter for decades, I can relate to how you are evaluating this new camera. However, I think that it could also fit many other photographic categories that have similar demands or lesser demands. Point being that wedding work is something of an acid test.
I tend to agree with you regarding the latest internet buzz words … DR. While I get it for certain applications where you are selectively shooting a few images and can spend the time in post to optimize them, 1,000 flat-toned, high DR images from a wedding is another matter altogether. Like you, I subscribe to the notion that "if the tonal range is that wide", break out the lighting to bring it back into balance … Duh!
Frankly, in retrospect, moving to Sony turned out to be a mistake for me. While the A900 was a decent wedding camera in need of some improvement (like dual parallel shooting to two cards), Sony abandoned the whole A900 philosophy in favor of EVF and lots of consumerist oriented stuff with the A99 replacement. The A99 and A7R both suffer from a delay that impacts deceive moment images so important to wedding work as well as other similar applications. The dog's breakfast Sony controls on their cameras may satisfy gamers and those inclined to love mastering and remastering cameras every year or so, but it is a real headache when it requires a degree from MIT to future out some simple setting.
I do not consider any still camera Sony makes as Pro level … not that a Pro can't make one work … Sony just misses on so many levels. Another disappointment is Sony's failure to influence third party makers of Pro accessories. A perfect example of this is Profoto's move to TTL control and HSS abilities with their B1 and B2 lighting … only possible with Canon or Nikon cameras.
As an aside, my hat is off to you for doing upwards of 50 weddings a year. OMG!
- Marc