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    A brief outing this morning trying out a newly-arrived Leitz Wetzlar orange filter on my equally old 35mm Summaron f2.8. M10 Monochrom.







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    After taking the church photos (above) I went on a small walkabout in town with M10M fitted with a newly arrived Visoflex and one of my R lenses (35mm Elmarit-R f2.8 in this case).

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    And two of the local allotments:-



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    "Winter's Dwindling Light" Greenspring Nature Trail. Jamestown, Virginia

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    Amusing myself today with a quartet of close-up photos, testing my 60mm Macro Elmarit-R f2.8 on my Leica M10 Monochrom + EVF. All hand-held. 1,2 & 3 @ ISO 12500; #4 @ ISO 6400.







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    Nice tones Keith
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    Original Leica MM, a really fantastic tool. I forgot what lens was used.
    I know my phOtOs are a bit strange for this thread but thats how I see





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    A wet Sunday morning in suburbia. M10 Monochrom, 50mm Summilux-M ASPH.

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    Randolph Street Napa, California. M10 Monochrom 50mm APO
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    This morning at a local retail park. M10 Monochrom, 50mm Summilux-M ASPH @ f1.4.



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    Before and after a downpour. M10 Monochrom, 50mm Summilux-M ASPH.




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    Original Leica MM mOnOchrOm





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    Playing with some olive wood bowl. M246, Zeiss 85/4 at 5.6
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    Two test photos taken after drop-testing my fortnight-old M10 Monochrome (a sorry tale related in the M10 Monochrome thread).

    1) 28mm Elmarit-M ASPH.



    2) Keen house buyer? 135mm APO Telyt-M

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    " Vanishing Point". Cap to Cap Trail. Charles City, Virginia.

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    Out & about in Malmesbury in Wiltshire this afternoon. M10 Monochrom, ZM 50mm C-Sonnar, orange filter.

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    A trio of images taken Saturday in Malmesbury Abbey. M10 Monochrom, 28mm Elmarit-M ASPH.

    PS - ref the Old Bell Hotel photo posted yesterday, I just made a 16" x 12" print on my Pixma Pro 100 - very pleased with the result!





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    Wonderful posts that show the importance of matching the right lens with the light to create a desired aesthetic . Sean Reid used to say lenses are like paint brushes and variety is useful .

    What I found with the MM1 was that on good light days ...I preferred the classic version 1 summicrons . Before the shift to slide film the lenses were designed for maximum resolution and micro contrast but with only medium overall contrast . With B&W film you rarely needed MORE contrast . Slide film was different you sought the highest possible saturation and contrast ...the result was baked in at capture . Version 2 of the Summicrons were higher contrast .

    So on a bright day a version 1 Summicron with an Orange filter produced a great file straight out of the MM ....apply the contrast curve you desire and you will received a well balanced spread of tones .

    On a rainy day ..I found the need for more contrast ...so here the current summiluxes were best ..even without a filter they produce enough contrast in flat light to get a great file . My favorite here is the 35 asph summilux

    Keith s examples are excellent in demonstrating what the files will look like under different lenses and light levels .
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    " Vanishing Point". Cap to Cap Trail. Charles City, Virginia.

    Leica MM1; 7Artisans 28mm f1.4

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    Well done .....notice how a lower contrast lens preserved the full range of tones . To my eye appears as a flawless black and white file .
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    Out & about in Malmesbury in Wiltshire this afternoon. M10 Monochrom, ZM 50mm C-Sonnar, orange filter.

    Excellent example of a “classic zeiss” rendering using a modern sensor . You could fool me and tell me this was film and 50 years old .
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    Excellent example of a “classic zeiss” rendering using a modern sensor . You could fool me and tell me this was film and 50 years old .
    Thanks. Interesting that you write that as I've just been thinking along similar lines. In just over two weeks with the M10M I have mostly used my 50mm Summilux-M ASPH - until I damaged it last Thursday. Since then 50mm-wise I have been using the C-Sonnar (normally a fixture on my M7) and the results have me mulling over the idea that somehow the C-Sonnar suits the sensor better than the Summilux. Can't help but think that the combination results in a more 'filmic' appearance.

    Would be interested in thoughts on the subject from others.

    Sluice gates on the River Avon. Same camera/lens combination.

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    Keith

    Wonderful posts that show the importance of matching the right lens with the light to create a desired aesthetic . Sean Reid used to say lenses are like paint brushes and variety is useful .

    What I found with the MM1 was that on good light days ...I preferred the classic version 1 summicrons . Before the shift to slide film the lenses were designed for maximum resolution and micro contrast but with only medium overall contrast . With B&W film you rarely needed MORE contrast . Slide film was different you sought the highest possible saturation and contrast ...the result was baked in at capture . Version 2 of the Summicrons were higher contrast .

    So on a bright day a version 1 Summicron with an Orange filter produced a great file straight out of the MM ....apply the contrast curve you desire and you will received a well balanced spread of tones .

    On a rainy day ..I found the need for more contrast ...so here the current summiluxes were best ..even without a filter they produce enough contrast in flat light to get a great file . My favorite here is the 35 asph summilux

    Keith s examples are excellent in demonstrating what the files will look like under different lenses and light levels .
    Absolutely superb advice and observations, especially as it applies to the MM1. The example you provided of use of the version 1 summicrons such as the rigid cron is spot on, observing this with the somewhat limited (but trying to expand) experience I have in using mine. This is especially so as you pointed out on somewhat higher contrast days, as the lower contrast lens balances things out along with flattening the contrast curve (to start with) when a orange filter is employed with those early crons. This is something I need to employ more often. I suspect all Roger stated would also apply with a bit differing degrees to all the Leica monochroms (MM1, M and M10M).

    It's interesting (and a learning curve) to try and achieve a B&W file and subsequent print with the monochrome that emulates the look and feel of some of our favorite film emulsions we employed along with the accompanied by the choice of paper chosen for printing those negatives. As Roger pointed out regarding Sean's statement, the lens then becomes the artists paint brush. It may be why for myself but I'm sure many others, I always from my earliest days in photography, had a fascination with optics in the way a lens draws and what characteristics it contributes to an image, maybe more so than any camera body, including high end digital.

    Thanks very much Roger for your thoughtful insight. Greatly appreciated!

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    Thanks. Interesting that you write that as I've just been thinking along similar lines. In just over two weeks with the M10M I have mostly used my 50mm Summilux-M ASPH - until I damaged it last Thursday. Since then 50mm-wise I have been using the C-Sonnar (normally a fixture on my M7) and the results have me mulling over the idea that somehow the C-Sonnar suits the sensor better than the Summilux. Can't help but think that the combination results in a more 'filmic' appearance.

    Would be interested in thoughts on the subject from others.

    Sluice gates on the River Avon. Same camera/lens combination.

    Keith my own personal thoughts to your question is "it depends", on the subject matter, lighting conditions and the look you are going for with a particular image. I like the B&W image(s) you've posted with the C-Sonnar (which I used to shoot with) and in some ways, resembles some of the characteristics of the Ver 1 crons as Roger described but again it depends. As Roger quoted Sean Reid, think of the lens as a paint brush or maybe even the tonality of the paint and choose one (say the C-Sonnar or the Lux asph) depending on the lighting that day and possibly what you may shoot, especially if you decide to take only one of those two lenses. Just my thoughts.

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    Ready to make a clean sweep... M10 Monochrom, ZM 50mm C-Sonnar.

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    Original Leica MM mOnOchrOm





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