I really did enjoy the CL, aside from the 23mm f/2. Leica even chose one of mine as a "Leica Master Shot", using the CL and 23mm lens combo, so it's not without merit that I speak from some experience with this camera. I am always amazed at how some react to comments that are intended to be useful and practical. I expect pushback from the usual suspects, but not you Peter, considering you don't even own the CL. My best to all who use this camera that you'll find it to your liking and have wonderful photographs taken with it.
Kind regards
I have nothing against your thoughts and opinions - read my answers carefully! I only expressed my thoughts about certain kind of photos (photography) that I found I do not like so much at least anymore - has nothing to do WRT your capabilities as photographer etc.
With that out of the way I used the CL occasionally and with more than 50 years experience in photography and almost all camera systems having been available and still available - both analog and digital - I evolved a good opinion what works for me, what type of photography (and recently videography) I like and what I don't - and I like the CL and the results I am seeing and getting from it.
If I don't like a specific style does not mean this is a bad style or whatsoever but it means I don't like it and I take the freedom to express this if asked or pointed too often at. And this exactly was happening IMHO with your repeated posts about how bad the CL performs in the circumstances of direct sun through the 23 on the CL sensor etc, and then adding your photo sample ... sorry but I had to speak up. If I offended you this was not my intention - sorry again for that!
Coming back to the thread and the facts about the CL - even if I like the results and the way of shooting it allows I am still missing several things on the CL and the Leica APSC system overall. First there should be IBIS and I do hope Leica will start introducing this soon and second I am missing several lenses in the Leica APSC lens lineup, especially a longer tele zoom, say 100-400 or similar. But then again that's me and how I want to use a camera (system). Other than that I find the CL very appealing and applaud Leica for finally coming up with it and adding the EVF (a very good EVF) to this camera. I only hope they also bring what was rumoured to be their FF CM - and hope this finally is a camera that can take M lenses, has a great built in EVF and takes also FF AF lenses (that either are from the SL or specifically designed for this camera). But again these are my wishes and they might differ from the wishes and needs of others - and that is fine with me! If such a camera doers not materialise I maybe will not get back into shooting Leica anymore and start selling off my M lenses and R lenses I still own. But then again I am fully aware this will not change anything in Leica's development decisions
So I hope we can bring that discussion to a good end now and continue in a friendly manner while each understanding our different but always good motivations.
Best regards
Peter