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this one?That was the price quoted on the Leica forum at Photo.net (via some website).
http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00ODJx
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this one?That was the price quoted on the Leica forum at Photo.net (via some website).
i hope the price is over-stated because i think it's unreasonably steep.Yes, if you follow the link in that thread, the website lists the price as 1200 euro. The website looks a little dubious, but they did break the story before the email was sent out, and all their information was correct.
Guy, another thought is that we should ask for clarification that ongoing firmware development will not be necessarily tied to the latest upgrade, thereby stranding those of us who do not commit to an upgrade. I realize that in some cases part of a firmware upgrade may be specific to newer hardware, but original owners who elect not to upgrade shouldn't be left behind on more generic firmware upgradability.
I mention this as the announcement specifically states that the upgrade includes:
"Installation of the newest relevant firmware."
Since this upgrade will be available to everyone, I do not see why anyone should pay in March. Where does it say that? It only says "as of March" in the Leica email I got.Also, it says they are not even going to start until August 2008...but they want you to buy the upgrade in March. So you shell out your 1200 euros in March or April and conceivably don't get an upgraded camera until October or November of 2008 (given how long the turnaround is for their normal repairs). Sounds like a great deal for Leica and a very bad one for the consumer.
Carsten, in the US email it says the following:Since this upgrade will be available to everyone, I do not see why anyone should pay in March. Where does it say that? It only says "as of March" in the Leica email I got.
Hi Carsten,Since this upgrade will be available to everyone, I do not see why anyone should pay in March. Where does it say that? It only says "as of March" in the Leica email I got.
Where did I get the impression the upgrade included door to door shipping? I don't know if anybody has shipped somthing as valuable as an M8, but the shipping one way can be hundreds of dollars including insurance. If Leica's price includes shipping, the upgrade may not be as expensive as we think.
Their original suggested price was in Euros and may have already included VAT. The US price may be cheaper. Leica may also just have a different price for different regions, like they do for everything else they sell.
I'm in the US (but I keep them confused, with an Israeli address as well), and saw the same. They have said that your credit cards will be charged in EUR. They have not said anything about VAT. I expect it is included, but one might ask for it to be reduced or removed in countries where it does not exist.HI There - my email had the following:
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• If so desired, the camera will be picked up at your home and sent directly back to you, without any intermediary stage in the process.
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But I'm in the UK, so maybe it's different here?
Sean, when your NDA deadline expires today or tomorrow, would you mind explaining whether the order for an upgrade must be accompanied by payment, or is simply a signed committment to pay for the upgrade when your turn comes?Hi Carsten,
The advantage, in theory, would be having a place closer to the front of the line. The upgrades are, says Leica, being done on a "first come, first served" basis.
Cheers,
Sean
Oops, "purchasing the upgrade certificate" sound like words chosen carefully, making it clear that you are purchasing something concrete, the "certificate," and not just signing up for a place in line. I guess they are factoring the 3+ month loan into their business case this time.Carsten, in the US email it says the following:
" • The fact that you are registered as a M8 owner will give you guaranteed access to an exclusive online area where you will be able to purchase your upgrade certificate.
• Purchasing the upgrade certificates will be possible as of March 2008 - the actual upgrading will commence as of August 2008.
• The upgrades will be fullfiled in the same order as the upgrade certificates were purchased. It is therefore advisable to acquire the certificate as quickly as possible."
The last point suggests that you better purchase it as soon as it is available or your camera will have a long wait.