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This is a pretty simple three light setup with the fresnel again as the main light on the left, gridded head as a kicker on the right and a snooted head on the backdrop
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OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!
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Landshark
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here is another 4 light setup the main light is a Profoto Magnum reflector outside the window and up high, the city scape straight head, the chair and fruit are lit by a grided spot, the whole set is filled with a Broncolor 220 slightly left of camera
Masterful.This is a pretty simple three light setup with the fresnel again as the main light on the left, gridded head as a kicker on the right and a snooted head on the backdrop
If you have a moment, could you expound on the use of the Fresnel ... your thoughts on the quality and control of light compared to other choices ... like say a Profoto 9' gridded reflector with barn-doors.
BTW, your participation is much appreciated
-Marc
David Schneider
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Marc,Masterful.
If you have a moment, could you expound on the use of the Fresnel ... your thoughts on the quality and control of light compared to other choices ... like say a Profoto 9' gridded reflector with barn-doors.
BTW, your participation is much appreciated
-Marc
I added a Larson 18" Fresnel to my modifiers. It's all set-up and ready to test, but probably won't get to it for a few weeks. I just love the way the light falls of with these things, just have to see if I can get the results I want. I'll let you know how it goes.
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Landshark
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For me a lot of lighting is seeing and feeling the light, so for the differences in the look of light shapers is not easy to put in words for me but here goes. The most common Fresnel I use are a couple of older Multiblitz Fresnel permanently mounted flashtube heads that were converted to work with Profoto power packs. What I like most about them it that are basically 10” DeSisti Fresnels with custom flash tubes that pretty faithfully reproduce the light one would get with a hot light or HMI light, they have a sort of sharp focused softened light with a very distinctive falloff, the addition of a large set of barn doors, helps to make for a very accurate falloff. The more common Fresnel is one in which you just insert a normal strobe head inside or in the back, while I still like using these, they seem softer and have a s defined fall off. Gridded heads with doors have there place too but you cannot get the same control with the barn doors, the falloff is wider and softer, you have to control them by the moving them closer or further from the subject. I hope this helps.
Here is a shot I did this summer with a mixture of Fresnels and gridded spots, a Broncolor 330 provides the basic fill as well a as a large strip box, the tent is lit from behind with 4 heads, the star lights are ac slave heads, fyi the tiger was added and there are a couple of head strips
Here is a shot I did this summer with a mixture of Fresnels and gridded spots, a Broncolor 330 provides the basic fill as well a as a large strip box, the tent is lit from behind with 4 heads, the star lights are ac slave heads, fyi the tiger was added and there are a couple of head strips
Ben Rubinstein
Active member
Wow.
Irakly, Great!I haven't posted for quite some time. Just was too busy doing nothing
Shot this last month in Siberia. Tree-light set-up. The most pleasant part was lighting the string
:thumbs:Tell us how you pulled this off with lighting.
-Marc
irakly
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Marc, it is a relatively simple setup, really. Three lights: The main light was a 6x9' softbox on the left, the fill: a 6' white umbrella next to the camera, 1:2 ratio to the main, and a 5' tall strip on the right, which was there mainly to light the string. The light from it bounced from a rod prepping the grand piano lid (I am sure, it has its name unknown to me) and lit the string. On a 100% close-up you can see that the string is vibrating. The shutter speed was slow enough to let ambient light fill the room. I hate those new energy efficient bulbs, but this time they did well in terms of adding a nasty color castIrakly, Great!
Tell us how you pulled this off with lighting.
-Marc
No, we didn't pull the tooth.
irakly
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Great job man. Both lighting and propping.here is another 4 light setup the main light is a Profoto Magnum reflector outside the window and up high, the city scape straight head, the chair and fruit are lit by a grided spot, the whole set is filled with a Broncolor 220 slightly left of camera
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Landshark
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Thanks, I will post some other images when I get the chance
Ben Rubinstein
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Yeah, that would be great David ... and post a shot of Fresnel unit itself ... 18" is pretty good sized. Do you use a strobe head in it or is it self contained? If a strobe head, which one?
After seeing these in action and discussing them, it looks to be a worthwhile addition to the lighting kit. I looked on the Mutiblitz sight, but I can't tell if they are just for their heads, or if they can be adapted to my Profotos. The Profoto ones are a LOT more expensive ... especially the one I like (of course
-Marc
Update, went to the Larson site and those look pretty good ... they are a bit skimpy on the details ... can't figure out how to use them with the Profoto heads, but I'm sure there's a way. I wonder how small the beam can get with the 18" version (which is a 14" lens) ... have you tried that from say 5' away from subject David? Did you get the barn doors also?
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Sorry I forgot to mention that i have owned these Multiblitz units for years, I pretty sure they were discontinued quite a while ago, these days we are buying some Profoto ones
ARRRRRGH!
I was afraid you'd say that, the Profoto one with built-in flash @ $7K is waaaaaaaay out of my price range. The ones you add to an existing head are much more doable ... but still really expensive (as are all the excellent Profoto items)
There is the 11.8" lens for $2,042:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/141180-REG/Profoto_100706_ProFresnel_Spotlight.html
Or the smaller 6" lens for $1,361:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/633104-REG/Profoto_100789_Fresnel_Small_Lens.html
The one that really interests me is this one which @ $3,793 is a lot more, but seems a much more versatile "kit":
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/783083-REG/Profoto_901176_Cine_Reflector_Video_Production.html
Any thoughts anyone ?????????????????????
-Marc
David Schneider
New member
Marc,Yeah, that would be great David ... and post a shot of Fresnel unit itself ... 18" is pretty good sized. Do you use a strobe head in it or is it self contained? If a strobe head, which one?
After seeing these in action and discussing them, it looks to be a worthwhile addition to the lighting kit. I looked on the Mutiblitz sight, but I can't tell if they are just for their heads, or if they can be adapted to my Profotos. The Profoto ones are a LOT more expensive ... especially the one I like (of course
-Marc
Update, went to the Larson site and those look pretty good ... they are a bit skimpy on the details ... can't figure out how to use them with the Profoto heads, but I'm sure there's a way. I wonder how small the beam can get with the 18" version (which is a 14" lens) ... have you tried that from say 5' away from subject David? Did you get the barn doors also?
I've got a Photogenic 1250dr attached to it. You just order the correct back plate for the strobe you'll use in it. You can move the strobe assembly forward or back to narrow the light beam. I don't believe the 18" model can take the barn doors, but the 14" does. If you are interested in it, ask for Jen, tell her you know me, and price will be substantially lower.
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Landshark
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I have used the first one, it is okay but will not give that hard and edge with doors, never used the second one, and the the third one I got one or two with my new HMIs and have not had much time with them yet.
you also my consider talking to a strobe repair man and see if they can convert one of these models from Hensel, They look they come in three different models with different plugs, it should not be that hard to either make pig tails or just rewire the plugs to what power packs you have, but check with someone first and see how much it would cost.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/585824-REG/Hensel_3390_F_Spot_Fresnel_Flash_Head.html
this model too
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/481963-REG/Hensel_190_Starspot_3000_3000.html
or
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/217067-REG/Speedotron_12343_10_Fresnel_Spot_W_S.html
you also my consider talking to a strobe repair man and see if they can convert one of these models from Hensel, They look they come in three different models with different plugs, it should not be that hard to either make pig tails or just rewire the plugs to what power packs you have, but check with someone first and see how much it would cost.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/585824-REG/Hensel_3390_F_Spot_Fresnel_Flash_Head.html
this model too
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/481963-REG/Hensel_190_Starspot_3000_3000.html
or
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/217067-REG/Speedotron_12343_10_Fresnel_Spot_W_S.html