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I'm sure folks would LIKE one but I don't think that they've thought through what that means to actually make such a super wide MF lens ...That's about a 16mm in FF35mm terms, are you landscape guys really wanting something that wide???
This *is* getDPI... :argue:Wow, can't we agree on something?
Joe
The Leica S 24 is very unusual for an MF SLR lens. It's about a 19mm FF FoV. I want one! I've never been much of a 35mm FF shooter (45mm here), so my S lens lineup would be 24, 35, 70, and 100 or 120.I'm sure folks would LIKE one but I don't think that they've thought through what that means to actually make such a super wide MF lens ...
Personally I'm ok with the 30mm on 44x33m. Kind of equivalent to my 43mm on 6x7. I'm more interested in something like a 30/45/90/150 or 180mm outfit.
For seeing and comparing focal lengths/rendering I use DT's visualizer: https://digitaltransitions.com/support/lens-visualizer-tools/
Not this landscape guy! I would like to see the longer end of the range filled out after the 30mm lens is released. A 150, a 200, and a mid range f/4 zoom (e.g., 30mm-100mm). Then, perhaps a fast(er) 120mm lens for people.That's about a 16mm in FF35mm terms, are you landscape guys really wanting something that wide???
Seemed silent enough. I was stuck with the 90mm and the focussing sound did not bother me inside the store. MF by Wire and CDAF.Does anyone know what focusing mechanisms are used by the XCD lenses? Are they "silent"?
Yes, exactly. That's what nets the same field of view, when cropped square, as a Hasselblad SWC (Biogon 38mm f/4.5 T* on 56x56 mm format).That's about a 16mm in FF35mm terms, are you landscape guys really wanting something that wide???
S lenses are pretty noisy! If the XCD lenses are quiet, I'd appreciate them even more.I tried both the 45 and the 90 and whilst I wouldn't refer to them as 'silent' they were as quiet as any other zoom lens I possess. They were essentially noiseless as far as the subject is concerned. Only a slight zip noise like any other lens.
Same for me, Godfrey. I prefer 1:1/5:4 print ratios resulting from years of B&W silver printing on standard paper sizes. I'm also a lover of the SWC and my S-24mm gets me most of the way there, but not quite. Consequently, for me, the angle of view of the short side is more important than the long side for urban landscapes and portraits.Yes, exactly. That's what nets the same field of view, when cropped square, as a Hasselblad SWC (Biogon 38mm f/4.5 T* on 56x56 mm format).
My vision for the Hasselblad X1D is to fit it with a 22mm lens, set it to crop square, and achieve an SWC digital.
It's what I do today with a 15 or 16 mm lens on my Leica SL:
G
14mm equivalent will be fine, thanks.That's about a 16mm in FF35mm terms, are you landscape guys really wanting something that wide?
http://static.hasselblad.com/2014/11/hcd24-uk-v4.pdfI'm all for a super wide but some folks might be sticker shocked by what it takes to produce such a MF lens. The list of affordable 23/24mm medium format digital lenses can be counted on ... Err ... Zero fingers
Compared to Rodies, both the Hasselblad 24 (I didn't know this lens existed) and the Leica 24 are quite cheap. :loco:I'm all for a super wide but some folks might be sticker shocked by what it takes to produce such a MF lens. The list of affordable 23/24mm medium format digital lenses can be counted on ... Err ... Zero fingers
I'm all for a super wide but some folks might be sticker shocked by what it takes to produce such a MF lens. The list of affordable 23/24mm medium format digital lenses can be counted on ... Err ... Zero fingers
Indeed. In a thread were people are bandying about comparisons between their Leica S system, P1 system, Alpa system, Hasselblad SLR system against the new X1D system ... ?
What's an XF 24mm? The only "24"'s I was aware of in MF were the Hasselblad HCD 24mm, Leica S 24mm, the Pentax 25mm, and the Rodenstock 23mm. There's also the not-as wide P1/Mamiya 28mm/28mm LS and Pentax 28-45mm.Indeed. In a thread were people are bandying about comparisons between their Leica S system, P1 system, Alpa system, Hasselblad SLR system against the new X1D system ... ?
A quick glance at Leica S lenses says new prices are in the $4000-$10,000 range. The X1D's currently announced two lenses are $3500-4500. The XF 24mm is $7800. Ultra wide lenses are easier to design and build for shorter mount registers without a mirror in the path, but they're not cheap nonetheless. I would not imagine an X1D 21mm lens to cost much more than the Leica Super-Elmar-S 24mm f/3.5, which at least one person here has already said is one of their favorite lenses.
Seems a bit over the top to be cautionary about affordability when you're talking $9000 and up bodies and $4000 to $12,000 lenses ... !
G
Matt - Thank you, greatly appreciated. I'd love it. Alas ............By long edge ratios,
45*36/44 = 37mm equivalent
30*36/44 = 24.5mm equivalent
--Matt