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    My guess is a new X1D with 100 megapixels, the zoom and a modern iteration of a 500C film camera body to celebrate 50 years in space.

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    Re: Hasselblad Teaser and Upcoming Announcement

    i was talking about contax 645 lenses on the gfx, since the hasselbad V lenses were/are nearly identical to the c645 lenses (yes c645 were quite updated) i dont see the issue here why there shouldnt be a CFV back with 100mp

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    As a huge fan of all things photography related, I really hope Hasselblad release a version of that V1X, what a beautifully designed thing that is, the world would be a better place with that floating around. I can't see how it would fit with my own photography requirements but that doesn't matter at all, I'd be happy knowing it was out there.

    Whatever they release I wish them well, and those who buy enjoy their new kit, that's what it's all about ultimately isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotophil View Post
    I don't understand the desire for a CFV-100C Back. The Hasselblad V Series Lenses probably do not support high resolution digital backs so why is the CFV-100C a likely candidate for the Classic Hasselblad Series? In my experience the CVF-50C doesn't even work well with the Classic Hasselblad SWC. The market for a CFV-100C Digital Back might be a technical camera accepting V digital backs but Phase already produces high resolution backs for technical cameras. I guess we will know shortly!
    It sounds like Phase has abandoned the 44x33 sensors so, Hassy may be the only chance tech camera users see a reasonably priced back with a BSI sensor. I doubt it will happen, but they've done crazier things so, there's always hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freaklikeme View Post
    It sounds like Phase has abandoned the 44x33 sensors so, Hassy may be the only chance tech camera users see a reasonably priced back with a BSI sensor. I doubt it will happen, but they've done crazier things so, there's always hope.
    its not a secret that phase doesn't offer 44x33 backs anymore, also the reason why they opened Capture One for the GFX files, since now its not a direct competitor anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by freaklikeme View Post
    It sounds like Phase has abandoned the 44x33 sensors so, Hassy may be the only chance tech camera users see a reasonably priced back with a BSI sensor. I doubt it will happen, but they've done crazier things so, there's always hope.
    ...well, it should have a built-in battery though, using the current H digital back with tech cameras is far from ideal IMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by sog1927 View Post
    cfv-150c
    I donĎt think, itĎs a CFV, because the back would not fit the V-series. It seems to be a little bit curved.

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    !!!!
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    Will there be an event or only a press release?

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    Re: Hasselblad Teaser and Upcoming Announcement

    I haven't seen anything about a 100mp camera or 150mp back. Please provide a link.....

    So far the only link shows a black camera with the 50mp sensor.

    Disappointing so far......

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    where I can find the livestream ?

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    Re: Hasselblad Teaser and Upcoming Announcement

    Donít think there is one. Check Hasselblad directly.

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    where I can find the livestream ?

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    If true I think a lot of people might welcome the zoom, but will probably not be happy with the camera:
    Quote Originally Posted by translation
    Continuing the tradition of unrivaled and award-winning design of the first generation of cameras, the updated X1D II 50C is a compact and powerful mirrorless medium format camera equipped with an excellent 50 megapixel CMOS sensor in a compact and lightweight package.

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    I really hoped for more... even though I am invested in the GFX I wanted something really bold from Hasselblad. There is nothing better for the camera market than good competition. I fear the GFX100 got none to day.
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    X1D II 50C
    COMPACT. POWERFUL. ENHANCED.
    Packed into the award-winning design of the first generation, the X1D II 50C continues to keep medium format photography portable with its compact build. Its upgraded electronic platform includes an enlarged 3.6-inch touch display and an enhanced EVF, a faster live view refresh rate, and an intuitive and even quicker user interface control. Connection via USB-C or Wi-Fi to Hasselblad’s Phocus Mobile 2 allows for the ultimate, on-the-go workflow from camera to iPad Pro. And with a huge range of high-quality optics to shoot with, including XCD, HC/HCD, XPan and V System Lenses, the creative possibilities are endless.

    https://www.hasselblad.com/x1d/

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    Re: Hasselblad Teaser and Upcoming Announcement

    I do love Phocus mobile II. PHASE ONE: Are you listening?!????
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    Re: Hasselblad Teaser and Upcoming Announcement

    CFV II 50C & 907X -
    Remember: adventure before dementia!

    The World is a book, and those that do not travel read only one page ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    I really hoped for more... even though I am invested in the GFX I wanted something really bold from Hasselblad. There is nothing better for the camera market than good competition. I fear the GFX100 got none to day.
    Couldn't agree more. I too had wished for more from them. It's not easy competing with a giant like Fuji.....

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    B&H lists the new camera for pre-order at $5750.

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    Re: Hasselblad Teaser and Upcoming Announcement

    really interesting to see they actually went with the 50mp sensor again

    and the 907x is a mini alpa

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    Quote Originally Posted by faberryman View Post
    B&H lists the new camera for pre-order at $5750.
    The price is really great! I would say very smart move to get a lot closer to Fuji.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    The price is really great! I would say very smart move to get a lot closer to Fuji.
    made in china?

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    Re: Hasselblad Teaser and Upcoming Announcement

    They kept it small and light. I'd MUCH rather that than the GFX100 size and weight for another 50MP. Anyone find a weight for the CFV II 50C?
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    Whatís old is new again.

    And now we wait...

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    Anyone find a weight for the CFV II 50C?
    Per B&H, 1.69lb/766g (body with battery and memory)

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    This announcement has left me scratching my head by the things they didn't say as well as the things they announced:

    1. Given that Sony doesn't have a 50mp 33x44 sensor on its production map, does that mean that they're using the old sensor or have they moved away from Sony to a different sensor manufacturer?
    2. No 100mp announcement seems that a decision has been made not to compete with Fuji directly.
    3. No 150mp H-back announcement. Has the H system been abandoned? Even the development of the new back is 33x44 and the new camera will be compatible with X lenses.
    4. The $5700 price tag has just sent the original X1D prices to... less than that. Although, it goes to figure that they had to do something about the price in order to compete. A $10,000 price tag for a 50mp sensor wouldn't cut it.
    5. Seems as though they have decided to totally commit themselves to the X system with a nod to the V system. That's where their future lies - sleek, small portable cameras that don't necessarily push the boundaries of performance. It may also be a sign of market maturation, an acknowledgement that 50mp is good enough.
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    While Hassy did release a new (manual only) V camera, overall the announcement is a major disappointment to me. Based on the information released, it seems very likely that both new sensor-equipped Hassy products use the 50 MP (non-BSI) IMX161 sensor that Sony developed quite a while ago, and that has been in consumer cameras for the past three years (including the original X1D).

    Hassy’s latest products are now a full sensor generation behind the competition. While some companies can still tread water releasing 35-mm cameras with outdated sensor performance characteristics (cough cough Leica cough cough), the MF market is different in that MF users tend to prioritize image quality very highly—thus their willingness to pay a premium and lug around much larger systems than the many outstanding 35 mm outfits. While the IMX161 is a good sensor that can deliver excellent images, it lags well behind the IMX461 BSI (GFX100) and IMX411 BSI (IQ4) sensors in terms of noise level, dynamic range, and color shift.

    Hassy’s original camera designs are compelling and impeccable. I just wish they used equally state-of-the-art internals for actual image capture!

    Not a good day for any MF fan, I fear, as more competition and more innovation is good for all involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tcdeveau View Post
    Looks like Hasselblad posted a potential new gear teaser today on instagram:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BysIyPIo..._web_copy_link

    their homepage is also showing a countdown to 19 JUNE 2019 14:00 CEST / 8:00 AM EDT:

    https://www.hasselblad.com/

    Seems we'll have more info on what they've been up to in a few days
    Hi,


    I did type a bunch of crap agains the company and their lack of understanding. there is hope, if they really sustain the. 5K price that means that is a competitor to the title Fuji, not to the. 100MP one.
    The platform is much more improved in every regards, and it could be a good basis for the 100MP X2D.

    I hope this change of heard of mine don't prove to be me being foolish and easy to turn.


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    Iím pretty sure itís the 5 year old sensor. I find the CFV very interesting, however, here a 100Mp sensor would have been much more interesting...

    Iím just glad Iím invested in Phase and not the H system...
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    Such a Hassapointment. I was ready to shell out for something competitive, it may be time to go Fuji after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tcdeveau View Post
    Looks like Hasselblad posted a potential new gear teaser today on instagram:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BysIyPIo..._web_copy_link

    their homepage is also showing a countdown to 19 JUNE 2019 14:00 CEST / 8:00 AM EDT:

    https://www.hasselblad.com/

    Seems we'll have more info on what they've been up to in a few days

    Hi,

    The CFV II and 907X look pretty good. If they have the proper pricing they could become a hit.

    Best regards,

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    I definitely have mixed feelings about the announcement.

    Glad to finally see the zoom, and it was priced around I expected. I've been waiting for this one for a long time. My preorder is in.

    The X1DII saved me quite a bit of GAS. Sucks that the value of the existing X1D just plummeted but....so it goes. I knew when I bought my X1D it is destined to be an expensive paperweight at some point, but for now I will continue to enjoy it and don't have to worry about upgrade envy. The X1DII is priced fairly competitively and will make a lot of ppl that were looking to jump into the system happy.

    Pretty disappointed and surprised in general that they stuck with the 50mp sensor. However....

    Aside from the CFVII 50c being only 50mp, I realized this is a back/system that would allow me to use my existing XCD lenses (21/45/65/90), Alpa STC, and 40/70mm Rodies with one back (and I've always wanted a 500 series)....and it appears to have an integrated battery AND an articulating screen. That is pretty awesome for tech cam use. And phocus mobile 2 looks awesome. Being able to import and edit RAW on the iPad Pro is awesome. Depending on price and availability, I may have to jump on that.

    Still disappointed they didn't go with the 100mp IMX461 but it is what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jduncan View Post
    Hi,

    The CFV II and 907X look pretty good. If they have the proper pricing they could become a hit.

    Best regards,
    Yep definitely, I couldn't find any pricing or availability info, but if they price it right they could sell quite a few

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    Re: Hasselblad Teaser and Upcoming Announcement

    OK, boys and girls: what's the situation?

    You want 50MP in a small package? You have the X1D I or II
    You want 50MP in a medium package? You have the GFX 50S/R
    You want 100MP in a large package? You have the GFX 100
    You want 150MP in a larger package? You have Phase One.

    You want a digital SWC, now you have one - the tilt screen gets you something even the X1D with 21mm can't deliver.

    You want to use Leica S glass? You'll probably get an update of > 60MP.

    I see nothing to complain about here. If you can't get spectacular world class results from these options, the problem isn't the equipment.

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    I quite like the new announcement, only slight disappointment is the sensor remains unchanged...but the flip side is that it already has superb IQ, and for me, I don't need more megapixels. The new price looks super competitive...though for those who currently have the X1D, resale will plummet. Let's see if the improvement in startup and frame blackout is improved as much as they are claimed.

    The new 907x looks great too, the CFVii looks similar to the old one, except for the tilty LCD...and WLF will be interesting. Didn't see the prices anywhere...or did I miss it?
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    lets also see if they release any further firmware updates for the original x1d

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    I wonder if the CFV II 50 has a screen reversed mode for people who REALLY want the WLF experience
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    so what are the reasons to go from an X1D to and X1DII?

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    Re: Hasselblad Teaser and Upcoming Announcement

    Overall I like the general balanced move of Hasselblad in the direction of improving what's just a great system, and of still connecting legacy and new together by not betraying their long tradition.

    IMHO it also means that soon a 100/150mpx solution based on those new/improved platforms should be announced as well, H must be competitive.

    I wonder whether I can attach my original CFV-50c to the 907x body. That would be great!
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    I'm eager to see videos of CFVii-50c focus peeking in action ... btw wouldn't an external EVF be possible on such system ?
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    I guess as much as in the old days when the h3dii vs h3d. I am one of those who remained with the h3d. And its an x1dii not x2d, so I think, if the improvements are delivered as promised in the announcement, plus the new price, will make this a helluva camera.

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    so what are the reasons to go from an X1D to and X1DII?
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    I also wonder if the old CFV will be usable on the 907x body...though knowing H, backward compatibility is probably not a feature.


    Quote Originally Posted by edouard View Post
    I'm eager to see videos of CFVii-50c focus peeking in action ... btw wouldn't an external EVF be possible on such system ?

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    OK, boys and girls: what's the situation?

    You want 50MP in a small package? You have the X1D I or II
    You want 50MP in a medium package? You have the GFX 50S/R
    You want 100MP in a large package? You have the GFX 100
    You want 150MP in a larger package? You have Phase One.

    You want a digital SWC, now you have one - the tilt screen gets you something the X1D with 21mm can't deliver.

    You want to use Leica S glass? You'll probably get an update of > 60MP.

    I see nothing to complain about here. If you can't get spectacular world class results from these options, the problem isn't the equipment.

    Matt
    I want (and expected} the new Sony 100MP sensor in a small package with a state of the art EVF. And I would have been willing to pay the premium to purchase it. I am left wondering if Hasselblad ran into major engineering issues trying to incorporate the new Sony 100MP sensor into the existing X1D body. Heat issues? Battery issues? Physical room for upgraded componentry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hcubell View Post
    I want (and expected} the new Sony 100MP sensor in a small package with a state of the art EVF. And I would have been willing to pay the premium to purchase it. I am left wondering if Hasselblad ran into major engineering issues trying to incorporate the new Sony 100MP sensor into the existing X1D body. Heat issues? Battery issues? Physical room for upgraded componentry?
    My bet is that it was engineered to a price point
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    Re: Hasselblad Teaser and Upcoming Announcement

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    I also wonder if the old CFV will be usable on the 907x body...though knowing H, backward compatibility is probably not a feature.
    As both the original and the new CFV 50c fit V bodies it's likely that the old one will "mechanically" fit the 907x. But V bodies transmit the shutter released "information" (to the back) via a mechanical "lever", I doubt that the 907x works the same! ;-)
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    Re: Hasselblad Teaser and Upcoming Announcement

    not much for currrent x1d users to upgrade, but now the system is priced closer to fuji; so new users will take a closer look at this camera system. so x1d line will survive! thats good news
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