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    Thanks, Sean!

    (I see we've both kissed the Blarney Stone! )
    I haven't, actually, but I did live in Ireland in the late 1980s.

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    Hi Sean1

    Certainly not hyped by you - you don't do hype, as we all well understand. What I meant was that there's a general buzz around the GR and GX cameras that somehow they are the clever choice for the pro looking for a P&S, whether it's for glovebox use or because they like small sensor drawing. But I do think that the Ricohs feel more toy-like than the Leicasonics: lighter, less metal and more plastic and feel, even though the ergnomics are mildly more pro in feel.

    I haven't done a lot of PP on the files yet but here's my thoughts and some examples.

    The GR2 and the LX2 expose about a stop apart at the same ISO with the Ricoh giving about a stop less. That accounts for a stop's worth of missing IS, which is handy. I personally find that the Ricoh underexposes a tad, which I prefer to the mild over-exposing tendency of the LX2. In my sample shots here I followed the Ricoh's exposure cos it agreed more with my M8's opinion. I used the same F stop (f4) and shutter speed on both cameras in manual mode. I used AF and a tripod on both. I shot RAW and so I had to adjust the files from both camera so as to have about the same EV.

    Also the LX2 has a slightly narrower FOV when set at 28mm focal length, so the crops show the centre portion slightly larger. All processed in Lightroom on Mac using default settings in all respects other than boosting exposure on the LX2 shots to achieve similar EV.

    First is the scene (and This Is Not Art!) as captured by both cameras at ISO 100. Then centre crops at 100 and then in the subsequent post at 400 ISO:


    Please see next post for ISO 400 crops and attempt at conclusion!
    Hi Tim,

    What aperture were those done at?

    Cheers,

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    Hi Tim,

    What aperture were those done at?

    Cheers,

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    F4 Sean, so as to miss the bit where the lenses start to degrade from diffraction but still have decent DOF.

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    Firstly i'd like to say hi, first post 'n' all that! Anyway, this thread got my attention as I recently sold my D Lux 3 and bought a GRD II. I think they are both great camera's but in many ways I am glad I made the transition to the GRD II.... Personally I find it simple to use, it has great ergonomics and also it as stated above it fits in the pocket perfectly. I find the IQ a little better than the Leica, perhaps not as sharp, but kind of more 'pleasing', especially when you consider the price of the camera-that is of course a matter of opinion, but when I had the D Lux 3 I found that I used to get lots of noise and 'smearing' of detail, which dissappointed me. Anyway, enough about that, I found it interesting that there were pics from Berlin in here, as I was there a while back when I owned the Leica, and have a few pics to offer up. I'll also post a few from the GRD II to see what you think.
    Thanks.















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    Now some from the GRD II:














    And the colour version of the first pic:


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    Oracle

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    Another view of Oracle

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    Bob,

    The sprawling campus of Oracle is certainly well-suited to the 16:9 format I prefer the first image with the tree branches for framing, and the "S" curve of the lakeshore as a compositional element.
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    Jack,
    I like the tree framed version too.
    The second shot looks to me almost more like an architectural model than an actual set of buildings.
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    Dancing Couple, Southwark, September, 2007





    D-Lux 3, ISO 800, JPEG, PP in LightZone. They printed up beautifully, BTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie O View Post

    D-Lux 3, ISO 800, JPEG, PP in LightZone. They printed up beautifully, BTW.
    Yes they did!
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    Thanks, Jack!

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    Who's hungry?



    D-Lux 3, RAW, "Food Mode" from the Scenes menu, PP in iPhoto.

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    Sheesh --- I didn't even know it had a special "food" mode!
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    [QUOTE=Maggie O;9002]Who's hungry?

    Mmmmm...mmmmmm
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    Let me call my Pugs
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    Beautiful shot
    Well Defined Meat......the D Lux 3 does it Again!!

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    Maggie, that T-Bone looks like it's sitting on my monitor. Excellent color and balance. I have to look to see if my LX2 has a "meat" mode.

    Good shooting,
    Otto...

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    London, from our table at "Roast," a restaurant above Borough Market in Southwark:




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    Russian church


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    Water Hat, February, 2008


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    A couple more macro shots:




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    4 Dog



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    cross post, but I have come to really love this camera




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    Pink Lounger.
    This model was a bit stiff and hard to work with.

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    Hey, if you knew how uncomfortable those get-ups are, you'd be stiff, too!!

    Um, wait. Forget I made any mention of a stiff guy and lingerie.

    Nope. Nuttin' to see here. Move along. Roight!

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    Of all these pictures I like the steak — not only because I'm hungry but because it's a good photograph; and we don't have to ask "where's the beef?"

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    The British Museum, September, 2007



    JPEG, tweaked in LightZone.

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    Wheels, New:

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mediawench/2332713644/" title="2004 Subaru WRX Limited in Java Black Pearl by Maggie Osterberg, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3143/2332713644_79cb6cce85_b.jpg" width="1024" height="574" alt="2004 Subaru WRX Limited in Java Black Pearl" /></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mediawench/2331885471/" title="2004 Subaru WRX Limited in Java Black Pearl by Maggie Osterberg, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2351/2331885471_0a56224582_b.jpg" width="1024" height="574" alt="2004 Subaru WRX Limited in Java Black Pearl" /></a>

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    Oh, screw it.

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    Hi All
    I am new here, got a tip from RangefinderForum that got me looking around for a few days. It seems like a relly friendly and informative place.

    I bought a d-lux 3 to share with my wife for family use. As many has pointed out here, it is a fantastic little camera. My big problem is the ergonomics. I don't want to use for street shooting since it feels so delicate to hold. I have an old Coolpix 8400 that feels like a tailormade glove in comparison. The Leica is so elegant, so I don't feel like glueing a grip on the front. I have a vague idea to make an M-type grip to screw in the tripod socket.

    Has anyone tried something similar?

    Attaching a kitchen still life from the weekend...

    All the best
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Hi All
    I am new here, got a tip from RangefinderForum that got me looking around for a few days. It seems like a relly friendly and informative place.

    I bought a d-lux 3 to share with my wife for family use. As many has pointed out here, it is a fantastic little camera. My big problem is the ergonomics. I don't want to use for street shooting since it feels so delicate to hold. I have an old Coolpix 8400 that feels like a tailormade glove in comparison. The Leica is so elegant, so I don't feel like glueing a grip on the front. I have a vague idea to make an M-type grip to screw in the tripod socket.

    Has anyone tried something similar?

    Attaching a kitchen still life from the weekend...

    All the best
    Jacob
    Yes, that´s the biggest problem with this camera, without a doubt. Bought it just over a month ago, and still keep pressing the wrong buttons just by trying to hold it. And using it at -10 deg C above the timber line in northern Sweden was horrible!

    Using a wrist strap is mandatory. I find the one that comes with it far too long; either find a shorter one, or put a plastic "bead" on it, so you can tighten it up. It helps a lot, and makes one feel more secure.

    Your idea of a grip sounds interesting; only, it would interfere with opening the battery/card compartment. But I don´t have any better suggestion either.

    When buying it, I compared it to the two Ricoh´s, but felt this one was a bit more solid. But the grip on the Ricoh´s is far better; there are times when I almost regret my choice...

    I still have my Digilux 2, and I don´t think the new one will make me mothball it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Hi All
    I am new here, got a tip from RangefinderForum that got me looking around for a few days. It seems like a relly friendly and informative place.

    I bought a d-lux 3 to share with my wife for family use. As many has pointed out here, it is a fantastic little camera. My big problem is the ergonomics. I don't want to use for street shooting since it feels so delicate to hold. I have an old Coolpix 8400 that feels like a tailormade glove in comparison. The Leica is so elegant, so I don't feel like glueing a grip on the front. I have a vague idea to make an M-type grip to screw in the tripod socket.

    Has anyone tried something similar?

    Attaching a kitchen still life from the weekend...

    All the best
    Jacob
    I've been using a Luigi half case on my Dlux 3 for over a year--- it makes it a completely different camera and very easy to grip even with one hand. It's lives on my neck fulltime with the neckstrap -- I prefer neckstraps to wriststraps. It's so light I almost don't know it's there. I get more comments on the case than the camera--the color is called Rally which is an elegant antiqued brown:

    leicatime.com

    The hanging backflap works beautifully in my opinion and I prefer it to the removable backflap. It works just as easily in the vertical position.

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    Proud Grandfather buys Granddaughter an MP3 player of her very own.
    What is next, an iPhone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie O View Post
    It's In The Cards, August, 2007

    ...
    Interesting shot! Can´t see what the unseen player´s hand is worth, however...

    Happy to see a non-Ricoh bar shot, just for once...

    Here´s another, from an empty coffe bar in Stockholm (Dlux3, of course):

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    Interesting shot! Can´t see what the unseen player´s hand is worth, however...
    If you look at the original size on Flickr, you can see the cards clearly.

    I have no idea what they mean, as I am almost completely card-ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poboxnyc View Post
    I've been using a Luigi half case on my Dlux 3 for over a year--- it makes it a completely different camera and very easy to grip even with one hand. It's lives on my neck fulltime with the neckstrap -- I prefer neckstraps to wriststraps. It's so light I almost don't know it's there. I get more comments on the case than the camera--the color is called Rally which is an elegant antiqued brown:

    leicatime.com

    The hanging backflap works beautifully in my opinion and I prefer it to the removable backflap. It works just as easily in the vertical position.
    I must admit , it does look very good. But at 130 Euros, its a little hard to justify!!

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    I have an old Konica FT-1, which used a detachable housing / grip screwed into the body to take additional batteries. It also took a smaller, flatter detachable grip, and its a pity that such an accessory couldn't have been provided by Leica. It could have been quite an elegant solution.

    I recently bought a s/hand GX-100, partly due to these frustrations, the tendency of the D-Lux 3 to smear, and the absence of an option to switch off NR. The handling of the Ricoh is a joy by comparison - with such easy access to the controls you need to change frequently. I carry and frequently shoot with mine one handed and am getting results I'm sure would have impossible with the Leica. LCD viewing on the Ricoh is also infinately better than the Leica's - you can view it at very shallow angles and so can frame from the hip quite easily.

    The Leica is a beautiful little thing, but isn't in my view anywhere near as polished in design and handling terms for creative shooting possibilities.

    I must admit I tied a knot in both cam's wrist strap straight away!

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    the tendency of the D-Lux 3 to smear, and the absence of an option to switch off NR.
    Both issues disappear if you shoot RAW.

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    Both issues disappear if you shoot RAW.
    I normally use Capture One 4 - as it doesn't support D Lux-3, I used ACDSee Pro and that has produced some very good detail I must admit - far more than the GX-100 and with greater clarity, smoothness.

    I dont know how much the RAW converter type affects things but noise is also far less apparent with the D Lux-3 than the GX-100, both cameras on the same settings. Would it help to convert to DNG first?

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    I don't know.

    I use ACR, iPhoto and LightZone to do RAW conversions, myself.

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    for handling, I put a piece of the soft side of velcro strip on the front of the camera to give a little "grip." I've already dropped it onto concrete more than once and it has some dents so what do I care about external aesthetics at this point

    That being said, the better solution (for me) was to change the way I hold the camera. I don't use the intended thumb rest, but instead put my thumb along the bottom of the camera near the display, index finger on the shutter release and middle finger curled against the front.

    I shoot raw and use Aperture2 to convert. No smears unless I want them



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    another one...
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    Lotus 72 F1, May, 2008



    I love that car. D-Lux 3, ISO 100, macro.

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    Yes, my D-Lux 3 is still in my purse and still going strong!

    Here's a few from a night out:

    Aura Restaurant, October, 2010 by Maggie Osterberg, on Flickr


    Aura Menu On Table, October, 2010 by Maggie Osterberg, on Flickr


    Ahi Tuna Appetizer, Aura , October, 2010 by Maggie Osterberg, on Flickr

    Here's a review of dinner from my Michael.

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