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    Viewfinders and visibility

    Here are some comparisons of the two viewfinders available to the GR family with 4:3 formatting. The little GV-2 (on the left, installed on a GR-D2) is actually bigger and brighter than the Cosina/Voigtlaender mini 28/35 that it seems to be derived from. The mini 28/35 is the silver rectangular viewer also sitting on top of the GR-D2. As a glasses-wearer, I found the mini hard to use for framing at 28mm (prefer the CV28 metal viewer), but use it at 35 mm.

    Both are much smaller than the 21/28 mm GV-1 finder that can be used with the GR-Ds and with their wide angle attachment. That's the 21 mm-e attachment on a GR-D at right, with a GV-1. The GV-1 looks too big for the new larger soft case -- I probably could squeeze it in, but it seems a bad idea. The lens adapter, however, is not as conspicuous as the GT-1 (40mm) seems to be. For some reason (not to obstruct the built-in flash?), the GV-1 is offset away from the center of the lens, and has parallax-correction lines in its field of view. The GV-2 needs these less and doesn't have them.

    scott

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    Hi Scott:

    Thanks for posting these comparative photos. Can you tell me, when wearing eyeglasses, how does the GV-1 compare to the GV-2?

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    The GV-1 is easier to use with glasses on, but both are useable.

    scott

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    You must be psychic as I was going to ask if anyone had done a comparison!!

    Does the new smaller Ricoh viewfinder have the 21mm field of view as well as the 28mm?

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    the smaller one only has 28mm and hatch marks for a square.

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    Thanks for this.. I was thinking of getting both the GV-1 & 2..
    I will be using an OVF for most of my shooting.. and I really like the compactness
    of the GV-2.. would also need the GV-2 for the 21mm lens..
    Though the cost of all this turns me off a bit..

    So I think I'm going to stick with just getting the GV-1.. Makes more sense..

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott kirkpatrick View Post
    the GV-1 is offset away from the center of the lens, and has parallax-correction lines in its field of view.

    scott
    Check out this link Scott : http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showthread.php?t=436

    This is a solution and it works well. The only thing is that you ruin it for eventual sale, but in the meantime it works properly with the GR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sun View Post
    Thanks for this.. I was thinking of getting both the GV-1 & 2..
    I will be using an OVF for most of my shooting.. and I really like the compactness
    of the GV-2.. would also need the GV-2 for the 21mm lens..
    Though the cost of all this turns me off a bit..

    So I think I'm going to stick with just getting the GV-1.. Makes more sense..
    Using just the GV-1 makes perfect sense as you can change from the 28mm to 21mm and not need to change the OVF as well. Unfortunately, for the GV-1 to be truly effective, in my view, you will need to do the modification that I have done - see above post - or, you will need to compensate for the skewed field of view that the GV-1 offers. By compensate I mean you will need to remember that you will be getting less of the left and more of the right of the frame in your actual capture.

    The GV-2 would be a nice luxury to have for when you want to travel light with just the standard lens and of course, as it is centered over the lens it does not have the offset problem of the GV-1.

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    I didn't realize the VF was offset.. Thats not right..
    ..$200 for something thats not exact..

    Thanks for pointing that out..

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    The way I've reconciled this is that I have the GV-2 for the built-in 28mm lens, and I picked-up a Voigtlander VTVF40 for, obviously, the 40mm accessory lens. If I ever pick-up the 21mm adapter lens, I'll just use the camera's LCD screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sun View Post
    I didn't realize the VF was offset.. Thats not right..
    ..$200 for something thats not exact..

    Thanks for pointing that out..
    It is offset to allow the flash to pop up.

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    Ya I realized that.. though I think I'd rather sacrifice the flash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott kirkpatrick View Post
    Here are some comparisons of the two viewfinders available to the GR family with 4:3 formatting. The little GV-2 (on the left, installed on a GR-D2) is actually bigger and brighter than the Cosina/Voigtlaender mini 28/35 that it seems to be derived from.

    scott

    Hi Scott - I wonder if you could put up a photo of the GR with the GV-2 mounted but taken from above. I am curious to see how much over the front and back it extends.. thanks.. or, perhaps you could just tell me ?

    Bernard

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    Great ! thanks for that.... a very nice fit !... think I will get me one

    Bernard

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