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    Sony NEX5 official release next week!


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    I'm missing something, what actually is this camera?
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    Re: Sony NEX5 official release next week!

    Ben, See here: http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16146

    Mirrorless cam from Sony. Hopefully, it will be followed by a FF mirrorless cam.

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    The cat is out of the bag. Sony's sensors are reaaally good (nikon and pentax are using them and they rock!). I really want to see what these bad boys are capable of. If they're anything like the sensors on the D5000 and the KX it will mean amazing dynamic range and high iso. Oh, I'm so excited!

    http://sonyalpharumors.com/continual...ras-announced/

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    There were some samples and a review on Digital Photography School. It was taken off, but the people who got to read/see it were blown away by the IQ.

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    Re: Sony NEX5 official release next week!

    iso 12800 sample!!!!


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    A short review: http://phototwist.com/sony-nex-3-review/
    These cameras are going to be amazing!

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    Digital Photography School review backup:
    http://phototwist.com/sony-nex-3-review/ (select the text and photos from this and paste it into a Word file to see the images correctly)

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    d**M
    that ISO 12800 (if true) is pretty interesting looking.
    That body looks really tin to hold a APS-C sensor, but I guess it will be confirmed Tomorrow.
    very interesting non the less.
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    Ummm... Where's the hot shoe?
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    Re: Sony NEX5 official release next week!

    No need. The camera is probably too small for one, anyways.

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    Re: Sony NEX5 official release next week!

    Show me the adapters!

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    There is a LA-EA1 Alpha-mount to E-mount adapter
    But guessing you want more.

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    It's really fugly and the lens looks huge. Still seems good though - the high ISO performance is impressive.

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    Huge lens, how is there going to be an accessory hot shoe or accessory flash if there is no hot shoe?

    The form factor looks like a p&s but with a lens whose diamater is 62mm, I think the size of the camera may be larger than it looks with its p&s look...
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    Re: Sony NEX5 official release next week!

    I will buy one of these (as with the NX10) but this time I will wait until the EVF shows up and I want to see if it is like the Pana one or "super sharp" like those of Oly or Sams- showing pixels and not the info.

    If the price is ~300 Euros for the body, I will buy one even if it would have crappy (optional) EVF.

    Sony ought to be congratulated for bringing this one out!

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    Re: Sony NEX5 official release next week!

    An interesting concept but not a replacement for the A700. Stunning low light perormance...........this could auger well for future Alpha series replacements.

    I can't quite imagine my ZA lenses on this little cam though!
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    Impressively small bodies. Looks like a strong entry by Sony, all the more so if they bring out a good add-on EVF. Good to see this mirrorless interchangeable lens category heating up!

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    Re: Sony NEX5 official release next week!

    It is a shame that Alpha mount lenses all become manual focus. I was thinking I would give the camera a try with the pancake and my 24-105 Minolta lens. The 24-105 is really small. I will probably still get one of these to try it out.

    In the imaging resource hands on they discussed the placement of the strap lugs which I found interesting that the camera is meant to be "worn" lens down. Hopefully it won't make it too strange to hold.

    I do also worry about the user interface which is said to be a bit strange. All that and i will still give it a go. If it were only memory stick it would be a no go so thank you Sony for this small favor.

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    Iso comparison to m4/3 Just tell me where to buy it. I'm getting the whole nine yards...zoom, pancake, wide angle converter...It shouldn't take long for a leather cover


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    Re: Sony NEX5 official release next week!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rawfa View Post
    Iso comparison to m4/3 Just tell me where to buy it. I'm getting the whole nine yards...zoom, pancake, wide angle converter...It shouldn't take long for a leather cover
    When you can post a comparison shot like that why would you want buy one?

    Where is that picture from, who did it?

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    Re: Sony NEX5 official release next week!

    Bunch of samples to compare here:

    http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/NEX5/NEX5A.HTM

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    Re: Sony NEX5 official release next week!

    The lenses look huge, yet they're pretty slow. Where's the Leica-M adapter? I want to put my 35 cron v4 on it.

    The magnification factor is 1.5x, so somebody create the mount, quick, and my 35 cron becomes a 52.5mm f/2 lens! Here's the tasty beast idea...
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    Interesting looking camera. Can't say I like how it looks, but the proof will be in what else it can do with other lenses. Do we know yet if it has a 'shoot-without-lens' mode, or does it only work with Alpha lenses? The sensor output looks promising.

    Personally I didn't buy a G1/GH1 for the size difference, and the NEX isn't compact enough to qualify as a pocketable camera - I'll buy an S90 for that. I'll be curious to see where the market ends up placing the NEX.
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    Re: Sony NEX5 official release next week!

    It seems really small for a camera with interchangeable lenses. However the lens prototypes seem to have gained size (presumably due to flange focal distance) so the thinness is a bit lost. Brad's mockup above would need a 1" (or something like that) extension pipe for his lens to focus properly.
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    Looks like it could be a cool camera (I love the X1 but not the price) but what was Sony thinking about those lens choices???!!! (I'm not talking about the physical size).

    A 28 or 35 (35mm equivalent) would be much better for an initial prime. And how about a 28-50 (35 equiv) constant aperture (or 2.8-4) zoom.

    Anyway, I might bite once/if more prime lenses are announced. I prefer primes to the slow battering ram looking kit zoom, but a 24 doesn't do much for me (that's whay I have an M9 and a D3).

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    I'm sure it's just a matter of time until the adapters start showing up. Being so tiny it looks like it could go great with a set of small compact primes. I hope I'm able to use my pentax 50mm f1.4 on it.

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    Does any review have word of whether there is any magnified focus assist or shoot without lens option?

    I read this one, but nothing there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawfa View Post
    I'm sure it's just a matter of time until the adapters start showing up. Being so tiny it looks like it could go great with a set of small compact primes. I hope I'm able to use my pentax 50mm f1.4 on it.
    Thing is I don't want a camera like this for adapting manual focus only primes. I want it to do everything for me - it's essentially a p&s. Otherwise I'll carry my M and not bother. Never really understood this whole adapting thing (and my apologies to those who do).

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    Iso comparison to m4/3 Just tell me where to buy it. I'm getting the whole nine yards...zoom, pancake, wide angle converter...It shouldn't take long for a leather cover

    If this comparison is correct the NEX cameras have a strong point. Sony also announced new camcorders based on the E mount.
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    Re: Sony NEX5 official release next week!

    Charles,
    Actually I agree completely with you. I have an m-adapter for my GF-1 / GH1 and never use it. If I am going to use MF Leica glass, I want a Leica camera behind them.

    The one case where an adapter has made sense for me is putting long Leica-R lenses on the GH1 for sports, where I am shooting the goalie at a constant distance from me, so MF is fine.

    Also, I agree with your comment "what was Sony thinking?" on these lenses. Why cripple a nice sensor with such slow glass? Well, eventually one of these companies will figure out how to combine a big sensor with fast glass in a small package and then my wallet will be even emptier. I think I will pass on this Sony. I am looking forward to Terry's opinions on it once she tries it.

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    Re: Sony NEX5 official release next week!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lars Vinberg View Post
    It seems really small for a camera with interchangeable lenses. However the lens prototypes seem to have gained size (presumably due to flange focal distance) so the thinness is a bit lost. Brad's mockup above would need a 1" (or something like that) extension pipe for his lens to focus properly.
    Here ya' go...
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    >Also, I agree with your comment "what was Sony thinking?" on these lenses.

    They think of the mass market :-). Also faster zoom will get quite big on this body. Will be interesting to see how WA lenses will behave with this sensor. With the E-P1 there were quite a few problems.
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    How hard can it be for pany, oly or sony to make a fast 50mm equivelent, even f1.8 would do, I don't want 40mm equivelent or 60mm or whatever, just want a fast 50mm...
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    Re: Sony NEX5 official release next week!

    Lars, there is only around a 9 millimeter difference in registration distance between NEX and M. So, the adapter would only be around 1/4" deep.

    Charles, I'd obviously prefer a digital M to mount M lenses to, but this NEX could be a godsend for those of us that can't drop that kind of money on a body. I'll probably get the NEX and throw a ZM 35 f2 on the sucker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ustein View Post
    If this comparison is correct the NEX cameras have a strong point. Sony also announced new camcorders based on the E mount.
    These are noise filtered conversions, actual 3200 out of NEX is not that clean at all. It's indeed a lot better than EPL1 and others though. It also looks noticeably more noisy than A900 even at ISO200 on samples from imaging-resource.com .

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    Quote Originally Posted by douglasf13 View Post
    Lars, there is only around a 9 millimeter difference in registration distance between NEX and M. So, the adapter would only be around 1/4" deep.

    Charles, I'd obviously prefer a digital M to mount M lenses to, but this NEX could be a godsend for those of us that can't drop that kind of money on a body. I'll probably get the NEX and throw a ZM 35 f2 on the sucker.
    I guess what I'm getting at is why can't these companies make the proper lenses to begin with? Where's the 24mm f2, etc?

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    Re: Sony NEX5 official release next week!

    I saw this link about LCD magnification 7x and 14x

    http://hasht.ag/20-things-about-the-sony-alpha-nex

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    Re: Sony NEX5 official release next week!

    Like Uwe said, look at the pricing this is a mass-market consumer camera, expect the standard kit zooms first. Then down the road we might see a few primes.
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    >Sony also announced new camcorders based on the E mount.

    This I find even more interesting.
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    I was going to nix this thing based on manual focus...but then I had a thought...

    We have focus trapping on the current cameras, right? (Hold shutter, camera fires when AF sensor detects focus).

    Well, if we have CD focusing, can't we do the same thing, but with extra precision and control?

    I can imagine the camera identifying the face(s) in the image, and me focusing my Maxxum (or 58 1.2 or M42) lens manually, or moving back and forth, until the camera detects perfect focus in the perfect location. SNAP!

    If so, I may actually buy one.

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    I'll be placing my order as soon as the NEX5 is available.
    Hey Monza, how are your Sony connections? ;-)

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    They are good, Rawfa. Just setting up the items in the store...

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    That is what I was hoping to hear

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    A bunch of samples and a review from a very nice spanish website (go to google translator):
    http://www.quesabesde.com/noticias/s...-videos,1_6335

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    Re: Sony NEX5 official release next week!

    The 2 second from switching on to being able to fire the shutter and a similar delay from the "sleep" mode regrettably makes it a no, no for me. I remember my Leica DMR took a long time to fire up and it drove me mad!

    The A900 is always ready and has never failed to get the shot....it is only myself that wasn't quick enough sometimes! For that reason alone I will pass on this little cam, regrettably. The sensor looks fabulous though and I hope that Sony will put it into an APS-C replacement for the A700 soon and also extend the technolgy to FF with a replacement for the A900.
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    There's quite a bit of excitement around this camera. However, I wonder how much of it is marketing hype. Looking at the ISO 1600 samples on imaging-resource I found the lens to be quite soft. Take a look here, tell me which shot looks sharper. Sony NEX5 vs GH1.



    There have been a few others sites that have posted sample shots, and many of them have this soft look. I'm guessing it's due to NR. Sony needs to give us the option of no NR.

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    Re: Sony NEX5 official release next week!

    It could just be a mediocre lens. Those intial NEX lenses are certainly not high end.

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    Re: Sony NEX5 official release next week!

    And it's a prerelease sample. Wait for the production sample reviews.

    BTW some rumor site mentioned an upcoming NEX7 with 1080p video and a larger body.
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