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RX2 with A7 III sensor would be ideal!

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Vivek

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Having used a RX1 recently after using a RX1R II, i am quite impressed how the 35/2 Sonnar does on a 24mp sensor.

If Sony would put the A7 III’s sensor in a RX1R II body with a tilt LCD and built in EVF, it would be a great step up!

I hope they will!
 

Audii-Dudii

Active member
Having used a RX1 recently after using a RX1R II, i am quite impressed how the 35/2 Sonnar does on a 24mp sensor.

If Sony would put the A7 III’s sensor in a RX1R II body with a tilt LCD and built in EVF, it would be a great step up!

I hope they will!
If they do this, then i hope they also make the camera more reliable, too!

My pair of RX1s are the least reliable cameras I've owned in the 40+ years I've been using cameras.

As I write this, in fact, they are both wounded, with the latest issue being a non-working flash on one and flaky autofocus on the other.

I do still love the RX-1 form-factor, though, and when they're working, they do still take great photos... <sigh>

And I agree (as you seem to imply) that a 24MP sensor is sufficient for this camera considering how I typically use it.
 
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Vivek

Guest
Until I really used and checked out the output (though lossy RAWs) i had no idea what can a near “ideal” digital system can do. The telecentric 35/2 is just awesome! So, yes, 24 is adequate.

Of course, the AF in the original RX1 is a joke compared to that of the RX1R II.
 

Audii-Dudii

Active member
Of course, the AF in the original RX1 is a joke compared to that of the RX1R II.
You do know the trick about manually focusing the lens via the macro ring ... yes?

The autofocus doesn't work on one of my RX1s, so I focus via the macro ring exclusively when I use it and find that I actually prefer focusing this way for what small amount of "street photography" I do these days:











As you can see above, I also find the RX1's built-in flash indispensable, which is the primary reason I haven't upgraded to the RX1RII. That said, I'm now using a Meike Speedlite MK320 as a replacement for the broken flash and it adds a lot of versatility due to it being more powerful, although the camera is no longer even remotely pocketable with it attached. Still, it's small enough that maybe it's time for me to start thinking about upgrading to the 42MP sensor...
 

DougDolde

Well-known member
I had an RX-1 never bonded with it and sold it. Not enough resolution, and it felt
like shooting with a computer.
 
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Vivek

Guest
You do know the trick about manually focusing the lens via the macro ring ... yes?

The autofocus doesn't work on one of my RX1s, so I focus via the macro ring exclusively when I use it and find that I actually prefer focusing this way for what small amount of "street photography" I do these days:

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Yes, I know about that. The only me mechanically operable part of the lens.

Does regular manual focus works in that camera?
 

Audii-Dudii

Active member
I had an RX-1 never bonded with it and sold it. Not enough resolution, and it felt
like shooting with a computer.
I agree with you about a lack of resolution when using it on a tripod, but for handheld photography, 24MP seems to be plenty of pixels for me.

Of course, as I approach my dotage, I'm probably not capable of holding it steady enough to achieve any higher effective resolution. <sigh>
 

Audii-Dudii

Active member
Yes, I know about that. The only me mechanically operable part of the lens.

Does regular manual focus works in that camera?
No, because the lens is really focus by wire and relies upon the autofocus motor to focus it even when the focus ring is turned by hand.

Fortunately, it was set at infinity when it broke, so the macro ring trick works fine. :)
 
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Vivek

Guest
I can tell you on reliable information available to me that they are independent of each other.

No, because the lens is really focus by wire and relies upon the autofocus motor to focus it even when the focus ring is turned by hand.

Fortunately, it was set at infinity when it broke, so the macro ring trick works fine. :)
 

GrahamWelland

Subscriber & Workshop Member
If they do this, then i hope they also make the camera more reliable, too!

My pair of RX1s are the least reliable cameras I've owned in the 40+ years I've been using cameras.

As I write this, in fact, they are both wounded, with the latest issue being a non-working flash on one and flaky autofocus on the other.

I do still love the RX-1 form-factor, though, and when they're working, they do still take great photos... <sigh>

And I agree (as you seem to imply) that a 24MP sensor is sufficient for this camera considering how I typically use it.
Well, I guess everyone's mileage varies but the RX1 and RXRII that I owned never had an issue in the many years that I shot them. If anything was an issue it was probably the clumsy eyepiece for the RX1RII that I eventually lost and had to replace.

I drive a Range Rover too and I've grown weary of people telling me how unreliable my vehicle is even though after having owned several I've never suffered the problems that others seem to suffer. My point being that ALL systems and things have issues and you're either lucky or not, or perhaps your use of the product is different such that you don't run into these issues.

And btw, I do understand the unreliable camera issues. My Leica M8/M9 & various lenses being out of calibration with each other was a total PIA until I stopped dealing with Leica and instead worked with a Leica repair specialist (DAG).
 

GrahamWelland

Subscriber & Workshop Member
Oh, and yes I'd agree that the A7III sensor in an RX1R variant would be superb. Since I pretty much always shot my RX1R/II handheld on travel I never really needed the resolution of the RX1RII if I'm honest. I ended up going to Leica M10 / M246 and the resolution is more than enough IMHO.
 

Audii-Dudii

Active member
Well, I guess everyone's mileage varies but the RX1 and RXRII that I owned never had an issue in the many years that I shot them. If anything was an issue it was probably the clumsy eyepiece for the RX1RII that I eventually lost and had to replace.

I drive a Range Rover too and I've grown weary of people telling me how unreliable my vehicle is even though after having owned several I've never suffered the problems that others seem to suffer. My point being that ALL systems and things have issues and you're either lucky or not, or perhaps your use of the product is different such that you don't run into these issues.
I know how that goes, because I've never had anywhere near the number of the issues with my Audis over the years that others apparently have had with theirs. My Cayman, on the other hand, went through a bad case of the 100,000 mile blues, first blowing up the clutch and after I fixed that, comprehensively destroying its engine a few thousand miles later. Now the headliner has failed, drooping from the roof onto my head and covering my eyes, and it won't pass emissions, either, because the fuel tank vapor recovery system has failed as well.

But whenever I drive it, all is forgiven and the same has been (mostly) true when it comes to taking photos with my RX1s, too!

And btw, I do understand the unreliable camera issues. My Leica M8/M9 & various lenses being out of calibration with each other was a total PIA until I stopped dealing with Leica and instead worked with a Leica repair specialist (DAG).
Fortunately, I do almost all of my maintenance and repairs myself, be it my cars, my cameras, my house or what have you. Right now, I'm wrestling with finding and fixing all the leaks in the 30-year old sprinkler system in my backyard ... grrrr.
 

Audii-Dudii

Active member
They = AF and MF. Your AF issue is not connected to the manual focus problems.
Well, neither one works and the lens is focus-by-wire, so how can they not be connected? As you note, the only purely mechanical focusing mechanism in the lens is the macro ring helical.

Mind you, I haven't taken an RX1 lens apart yet, so I suppose it's possible that it uses two separate motors, one for autofocus and a second one for manual focus, but that seems highly unlikely to me.

And Yes, I realize the typical failure mode does allow the lens to still be manually focused (albeit very, very slowly) when the autofocus stops working, but that's not the case with this particular camera.

<scratches head>
 
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