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Yair, I think you must be familiar with my story... I think my track record for purchasing medium format systems speaks for itself.Maybe I should re-phrase that one:
Assuming we make such a back, will the 5 Hy6 owners here buy it for €25K or more?
+1Funny thread !
Here is some facts from an Hy6 owner. In fact I swapped Phase One P45+ and body with Bradley for his Hy6 and 75LVr about a month or so before Sinar were announce dead.
I recently sent the Hy6 back to Sinar via the new dealer here in Australia - well not so new anymore.
(oh and LISTEN UP YAIR - too bad Dave isn't your rep for Leaf..and good luck with the mess of spaghetti down here in Australia that pretends to be a dealer..hahah what a Joke)
anyway back to main story..sent the Hy6 back to Sinar to check it out. Seems that the Hy6 I got from Bradley was one of those early bodies which were not quite right and because of the mess with the F&H situation took a while for Sinar to get organised.
They didn't repair it - they sent me a knew body how is that for customer service from a dead camera and a dead company?
As for a Leaf back on the Hy6 - what a great idea!
but seriously i am sick and tired reading from all these dealers of other brands ..how their systems are open...:ROTFL::ROTFL::ROTFL:
but umm not open to Hy6 ..
yep the GFC was bad timing for the Hy6 release a real pity.
Still it suits me because it is a fantastic camera body with a fantastic set of lenses..Sinar isnt dead either - and I will be adding a film back - listen up all you stuck in pathetic 645 land - real MF starts at 6X6:ROTFL:
just use an Hy6 and check out its lovely UNCLUNCKY shutter ..so smooth ..just try some of that 'real' Schneider glass in Rollie mount or the 110/2 yeah of course you have to have one! or maybe check out its metering system..or its beauitiful WLF viewfinder..
such a great system - good thing I dont give a ratz about what the ..'herd' likes or thinks.
So you keep making backs for H1s and H2s Yair and the occassional 'fantastic' Mamiya bodies ( teh ones were you count to ten after you press the shutter release?? :ROTFL::ROTFL:you know because you KNOW that Phase One dealers are pushing Leaf real hard!!!- hahahahaha gimme a break..:deadhorse:
Seriously - it is ok for people to say "we aren't allowed to make a hy6 mount" because Phase One rules the world... - another thing to say "there aren't any users base" - that is a cheap shot buddy and if Phase One don't like the Hy6 - well sell the rights to someone prepared to actually give the system some life.
cheers all:salute:
Funny thread !
.sent the Hy6 back to Sinar to check it out. Seems that the Hy6 I got from Bradley was one of those early bodies which were not quite right and because of the mess with the F&H situation took a while for Sinar to get organised.
They didn't repair it - they sent me a knew body how is that for customer service from a dead camera and a dead company?
:salute:
Hey Peter I've met David last week in Cologne (last time I saw him was at least 3 years ago) he's a great guy,Funny thread !
Here is some facts from an Hy6 owner. In fact I swapped Phase One P45+ and body with Bradley for his Hy6 and 75LVr about a month or so before Sinar were announce dead.
I recently sent the Hy6 back to Sinar via the new dealer here in Australia - well not so new anymore.
(oh and LISTEN UP YAIR - too bad Dave isn't your rep for Leaf..and good luck with the mess of spaghetti down here in Australia that pretends to be a dealer..hahah what a Joke)
anyway back to main story..sent the Hy6 back to Sinar to check it out. Seems that the Hy6 I got from Bradley was one of those early bodies which were not quite right and because of the mess with the F&H situation took a while for Sinar to get organised.
They didn't repair it - they sent me a knew body how is that for customer service from a dead camera and a dead company?
As for a Leaf back on the Hy6 - what a great idea!
but seriously i am sick and tired reading from all these dealers of other brands ..how their systems are open...:ROTFL::ROTFL::ROTFL:
but umm not open to Hy6 ..
yep the GFC was bad timing for the Hy6 release a real pity.
Still it suits me because it is a fantastic camera body with a fantastic set of lenses..Sinar isnt dead either - and I will be adding a film back - listen up all you stuck in pathetic 645 land - real MF starts at 6X6:ROTFL:
just use an Hy6 and check out its lovely UNCLUNCKY shutter ..so smooth ..just try some of that 'real' Schneider glass in Rollie mount or the 110/2 yeah of course you have to have one! or maybe check out its metering system..or its beauitiful WLF viewfinder..
such a great system - good thing I dont give a ratz about what the ..'herd' likes or thinks.
So you keep making backs for H1s and H2s Yair and the occassional 'fantastic' Mamiya bodies ( teh ones were you count to ten after you press the shutter release?? :ROTFL::ROTFL:you know because you KNOW that Phase One dealers are pushing Leaf real hard!!!- hahahahaha gimme a break..:deadhorse:
Seriously - it is ok for people to say "we aren't allowed to make a hy6 mount" because Phase One rules the world... - another thing to say "there aren't any users base" - that is a cheap shot buddy and if Phase One don't like the Hy6 - well sell the rights to someone prepared to actually give the system some life.
cheers all:salute:
Interesting story Peter. I have a similar one - I also purchased a s/h system before the melt down and subsequently talked to the new Australian agent - David Kay - about upgrading the firmware .He organised for it to go back to Sinar for this and adjustment and check over ... like Peter I got a NEW BODY back as mine was one of the original models that could not be upgraded. Apart from the shipping this was done for FREE!!! amazing service especially considering I didnt purchase it new from Sinar. I might add that on the strength of this great service I bought a new arTec and some lenses - David Kay provides truly amazing service ,has a wealth of knowledge and is a all round good bloke!!Peter, I would be interested to know exactly where you sent your kit (and any contact info you might have). Perhaps others would like to know as well.
Thanks.
- There is metering built into the camera body, so metering and AE modes work with all viewfinder options.
- It actually has viewfinder options unlike some!
- great lenses, fast apertures and with leaf shutters offering up to 1/1000 flash sync
- by using a 6x6 format, the camera can remain upright at all times while just the sensor/back is rotated between landscape and portrait. This also allows use of WLF in portrait mode!
- more obscure features such as focus bracketing and focus trapping
The first 4 on the list are really what nail it for me.
Ergonomically, I've never used a better camera. And that includes 35mm.in this case the Hy6 has the edge…
+1
Waist-Level View Fnder is the true photography, which lets you think more about the picture!
Hy6/AFi body with firmware > ver 3.10 is the thing!
My expectation for the future Hy6/AFi body development is:
1. set ISO directly at body directly;
2. make RGB sensor rock.
+3+2
Waist-level viewfinder is the true medium-format photography.
True film MF photography starts at 6X6
True digital MF photography starts at 48X36, not at 25X37!
I'm better suited with a killer dlsr than with a fixed eye-level MF camera
'Nuf saying
Eduardo
The nice thing IMO is the combination of having a WLF and still metering and AF (even though I still have only limited trust in the AF of the Hy6) and the rotating back (which I love).I'm a bit late, but thank you all, Graham,Peter, t_streng for the info on the Hy6. at closer look it seems to be a very interesting system. very practical/ergonomical thing to have a WLF in combination with this kind of grip. especially when I think of shooting from down low perspective. doing the snake thing on your belly is not a great pleasure in photography… at least not for me don't know about the hassy HVM and metering option but it doesn't seem to be te same thing. in this case the Hy6 has the edge…