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    GX 680III Update

    My camera came in yesterday from Japan. It appears new, complete with an unblemished box and Japanese instruction manual. (I smelled it expecting a new car smell ... got nothing but a faint hint of maguro.)

    Still waiting for backs and fronts (lenses).

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    Re: GX 680III Update




    Sometimes the Japanese manuals are no easier to understand than the English ones.

    Well, if it starts smelling like fermented bean paste (natto), you may want to disinfect it.

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Maybe tomorrow. I am too beat up from Thanksgiving to pick up a camera. I am still missing backs and fronts (lenses) for the thing. But bits and pieces are coming in everyday.
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    Re: GX 680III Update

    I have scanned versions of the English user manual and brochures if you are interested.

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Quote Originally Posted by GaryAyala View Post
    I am too beat up from Thanksgiving to pick up a camera.
    Tell me about it. This is what I got for Thanksgiving. No, not an ice-cream cone, but 10"–12" of snow. That pot has a 24" diameter. But that is not the tough part. My snowblower broke half way down my 225' driveway. (I took the picture before plowing my driveway )

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    In the 80's out here.

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Wow, we have moved into the 20th century at least...



    Oh, you mean temperature. You keep your house warm.
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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Quote Originally Posted by Shashin View Post
    Wow, we have moved into the 20th century at least...



    Oh, you mean temperature. You keep your house warm.
    LOL ... yes warm not hot, a lot of insulation and an attic fan goes along way. Plus keeping the windows open significantly reduces the need to turn on our A/C.
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    Re: GX 680III Update

    My 65mm arrived from KEH. Very clean, but no fronts or backs.

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    It kind of reminds me of Christmas when you get that toy you wanted, but mom and dad forgot to get the batteries...

    The GX 680III is one of those special systems. Nothing quite like it. But Fuji has always been a little crazy that way. Making cameras most would never want, but a few really love. I mean who comes out with a folding dual-format medium-format rangefinder camera when no one is buying film cameras anymore?

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    I have scanned versions of the English user manual and brochures if you are interested.
    Thank you Jorgen, but I have downloaded a PDF version.

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Quote Originally Posted by Shashin View Post
    It kind of reminds me of Christmas when you get that toy you wanted, but mom and dad forgot to get the batteries...

    The GX 680III is one of those special systems. Nothing quite like it. But Fuji has always been a little crazy that way. Making cameras most would never want, but a few really love. I mean who comes out with a folding dual-format medium-format rangefinder camera when no one is buying film cameras anymore?
    Yep, Niche-Market-R-Us should be the name of the company. Come for the lenses ... stay for the oddball cameras.

    But I do love the X series.
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    Re: GX 680III Update

    The 250mm and 135mm arrived and a changing bag. Still waiting for the film backs.

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Gary, I've almost finished putting the bits and pieces together for my GX680 kit as well. A little purchase here and there over the last year-and-a-half or so. Waiting on a finder, and one more back, and I'm done. Hoping to start shooting soon, despite the Michigan weather ...
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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Quote Originally Posted by MCTuomey View Post
    Gary, I've almost finished putting the bits and pieces together for my GX680 kit as well. A little purchase here and there over the last year-and-a-half or so. Waiting on a finder, and one more back, and I'm done. Hoping to start shooting soon, despite the Michigan weather ...
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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Well, except for the Michigan weather...
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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Okay Will, per your request:


    iPhone image

    Still waiting for the backs.

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Are you sure that youv've got the GX680 III ?

    It's years since I sold mine and the image I'm posting doesn't show the same side as yours,
    but unless that 'lump' on the side of yours is some kind off accessory that I don't remember being available for the III, I suspect it's the battery housing for one of the earlier models.


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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Looking good, I hope you have the waist level finder too.

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Quote Originally Posted by Elderly View Post
    Are you sure that youv've got the GX680 III ?

    It's years since I sold mine and the image I'm posting doesn't show the same side as yours,
    but unless that 'lump' on the side of yours is some kind off accessory that I don't remember being available for the III, I suspect it's the battery housing for one of the earlier models.


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    It is the III. The 'lump' is an accessory AA battery holder, (my backup power source).

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Quote Originally Posted by Mammy645 View Post
    Looking good, I hope you have the waist level finder too.
    Yes I do.

    That image is of my first attempt at assembling all the various parts I've collected so far. So I had to toss on the 90 degree finder. If I find that I'm regularly using the Waist Level, I'm thinking of replacing the Waist Level with the Loupe View Finder.

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    I love waist level finders, not only are they beautiful to look through and make you feel like you're in the scene instead of watching it from afar, I've also found they make your subject (if you're shooting people) less intimidated than when you look straight at them.

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    I don't have a problem with either finder. It is a matter of height. The 90 Finder will allow me to shoot higher easily, while the Waist Level will allow me to shoot low easier.

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Must…resist…temptation..
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    http://www.getdpi.com/forum/gear-fs-...-iiis-too.html

    It might be a bit large for a carry-around outfit though.

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Quote Originally Posted by 4season View Post
    Must…resist…temptation..
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    http://www.getdpi.com/forum/gear-fs-...-iiis-too.html

    It might be a bit large for a carry-around outfit though.
    I've used mine on a motorbike trip on dirt roads in rural Cambodia. Works fine

    You might need one of these though:

    Fuji GX680III Neck Strap for Fuji GX680 GX 680 III Iiis Camera | eBay

    The neck straps for the GX680 III are rare as hen's teeth, so they tend to sell for ridiculous prices. The seller in the ad above is very reliable and a great source for anything GX680.

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Thank you Jorgen. I've been looking at that strap ... and I keep thinking $250 is a lot of money for a strap.

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Quote Originally Posted by GaryAyala View Post
    Thank you Jorgen. I've been looking at that strap ... and I keep thinking $250 is a lot of money for a strap.
    It is a lot of money for a strap. The most expensive I've seen so far went for well over $300. I got mine for around $200 a couple of months ago. I've been trying to find the metal parts that connect to the camera or at least something similar, so that I could start manufacturing myself, but I haven't succeeded so far. It's very similar to what is used with some other MF cameras, but larger.

    There are a few more expensive parts:

    - The AE finder that usually sells for around $1,400
    - The original, Super CCD digital back. I haven't seen any of those for sale.
    - The zoom lens

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    It is a lot of money for a strap. The most expensive I've seen so far went for well over $300. I got mine for around $200 a couple of months ago. I've been trying to find the metal parts that connect to the camera or at least something similar, so that I could start manufacturing myself, but I haven't succeeded so far. It's very similar to what is used with some other MF cameras, but larger.

    There are a few more expensive parts:

    - The AE finder that usually sells for around $1,400
    - The original, Super CCD digital back. I haven't seen any of those for sale.
    - The zoom lens
    - I've been looking for the AE finder ... haven't found one yet. Dunno if I'm willing to shell out $1400.
    - The CCD back is a something I didn't even know exist. (Okay, on my list.)
    - I've seen the zoom ... don't see a real need yet.

    I'll look for a fastener for the strap as well. Maybe between us we can start a new business.

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    That's a big camera to dangle from one's neck.

    I wonder if Hasselblad / Kiev-type straps would fit? Back in my Hassy days, I'd buy rotted Hasselblad leather straps just for those fasteners.

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Quote Originally Posted by GaryAyala View Post
    That is one mighty techno-lump of a thing. Beautiful in its massive way! Very cool.


    Carry it on a neckstrap? Not me, never. I don't like carrying even the diminutive (by comparison only) Hassy 500CM with 80mm that way.

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Count me in as proud owner of this camera, just brought home the very same as 4season linked to above. Still some bits to acquire, I hope we don't battle each other on auctions : ).

    I've been using a D800E for a few years and yes, I really like it. Nothing makes me feel better though than returning to film. Emphasis on the feel better part.

    I'm so much more deliberate and in the place than when I shoot digital. I've tried adapting my mindset to some avail but having so many restrictions is freedom to me. The pressure to get it technically right. Doing the math in one's mind before exposing. Taking the time, for god's sake, to know a place.

    The camera is simply astounding, the engineering and machining, just phenomenal. I know I'm going to enjoy using it. It just suits me.

    Now to find a couple more lenses and a cable release. Ironically, I'd love to come up with a more diminutive version of the cable release. Why did it have to be a joystick? : )

    edit: Tom noted one thing I found rather interesting, regarding the 680 S model with it's lack of movements. It was that for the longer lenses it might be desirable to not have the movement linkages involved. There is some sag to consider and the S model does seem considerably more rigid under pressure.
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    Re: GX 680III Update

    I use my GX680IIIs permanently on the 500mm lens.
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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Can anyone tell me if the GX680III can use film backs earlier than the IIIN model?

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Quote Originally Posted by danielmoore View Post
    Can anyone tell me if the GX680III can use film backs earlier than the IIIN model?
    As far as I remember, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielmoore View Post
    edit: Tom noted one thing I found rather interesting, regarding the 680 S model with it's lack of movements. It was that for the longer lenses it might be desirable to not have the movement linkages involved. There is some sag to consider and the S model does seem considerably more rigid under pressure.
    I use the "S" mostly for portraits with the 180mm and sometimes for travel. The size difference makes it easier to pack and I also assume less prone to damage during travel due to the simpler construction. Then of course, sometimes the whole point of bringing the beast is the tilt/shift, so then, I have no choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4season View Post
    That's a big camera to dangle from one's neck.

    I wonder if Hasselblad / Kiev-type straps would fit? Back in my Hassy days, I'd buy rotted Hasselblad leather straps just for those fasteners.
    They do not fit. I've tried, believe me. $200+ for a strap is just hideous.
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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Could you show us, Jorgen, what the strap connection itself looks like? It would be great to see just how they designed it. There needs to be a DIY solution.

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    My remote release came in ... still no backs.

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Quote Originally Posted by danielmoore View Post
    Could you show us, Jorgen, what the strap connection itself looks like? It would be great to see just how they designed it. There needs to be a DIY solution.
    There is probably a DIY solution. The part on the camera is more or less identical to the one on a Hasselblad and a few other MF cameras, but the one on the GX680 is slightly larger. The smaller part can be bought from several sources on the net for a couple of dollars but I've so far not found any that are the right size.

    The mechanism doesn't need to be as advanced as this to work:


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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Food for thought.

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Thank you Jorgen. I'd love to have a hand strap just for the sake of moving it about. I bet some heavy duty wire could be fashioned into a suitable suspenders-like clip.

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Why not ask John Milich? Whether it would be cost effective, I don't know. But he could certainly do it.

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    I can fashion something usable I think.

    Here's something for the man who has everything:
    http://www.skgrimes.com/whats-new/2006-2/2745-2

    Does anyone have a favorite filter system for the 680?

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Quote Originally Posted by danielmoore View Post
    I can fashion something usable I think.

    Here's something for the man who has everything:
    http://www.skgrimes.com/whats-new/2006-2/2745-2

    Does anyone have a favorite filter system for the 680?
    That was a very cool device! The most important point with the strap, at least for me, has been to have something to lift the camera by when shooting on location. I think I'll have to add a handle like that to my growing collection of GX680 accessories

    Any idea about the price?

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    None, I'm afraid. I just don't want to pay someone to make something I can make, even if it's not as perfect. The design solves a problem of not rubbing on the body, as does the strap clip design apparently, buy being held away from the body. That's key. I want something like that for the only reason you mentioned. It's a bit clumsy to try and wrap your hands around. Sure, plenty of gripping points but nothing ergonomic for plain old moving about.

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    My trusty Manfrotto 410 head is a bit weak at the knees under the beast. Hmmm.. Chance it? I think I will. Budget minded advice anyone?
    The RRS TVC34L it's parked on doesn't show any weakness.

    Gary, I hope none of this talk becomes thread jacking. Please say so if it is. I figured we're all just pitching in the cause.

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    I think a short strap to be used as a handle would be very useful. I'm thinking of trying out some loop connectors.

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    Quote Originally Posted by danielmoore View Post
    My trusty Manfrotto 410 head is a bit weak at the knees under the beast. Hmmm.. Chance it? I think I will. Budget minded advice anyone?
    The RRS TVC34L it's parked on doesn't show any weakness.

    Gary, I hope none of this talk becomes thread jacking. Please say so if it is. I figured we're all just pitching in the cause.
    Not at all. It is all good. You guys are extremely helpful.

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    BTW- A back finally came in today!!!! So now I can actually exposure a roll of film.

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    Re: GX 680III Update

    You might have nailed it, Gary. I've got the optech strap and there's just enough hole size in that loop to pass the connector though, thereby knotting and locking it. Nice. A self tightening connector. I believe the weight won't be an issue until the snaps get old.
    I don't think the mini version would be required to get a secure fit. The Uniloop should compress enough.

    I'll report back on it's success.

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