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Ditto and best, most concise assessment of the pros/cons of both cameras I've seen so far. Thanks for posting.problems to chose - so both :thumbup:
Both camera produce very nice pictures with nice lenses.
+ Sony : size, plenty of lenses to fit with different adapters (some with autofocus), focus peaking.
- Sony : EVF in low light (lots of noise), easy to unwanted change some buttons on the camera (moviebutton, exp and aperture wheel)
+ Fuji : very nice fujinon lenses ( not so expensive like zeiss lenses), jpg rendering, EVF/OVF, handling
- Fuji: not so many lenses for the system, manual focusing, aperture/autofocus noise when camera is on without using the shutter-button, have to buy a separate diopter .
Trygve
Terry,I haven't followed the diopter discussions much can you point me in the direction of where to get them or a thread about them.
I havent chosen the x pro 1 over the Nex yet but I just dont get along so great with the EVF. So I am evaluating to maybe replace the Nex with the X Pro 1 - but I first have to try one and see how I get along with the AF and the handling of the camera.Let's hear who chose the X Pro 1 over the NEX 7 and why.
Pluses - minuses
Well, I can't speak for the X Pro1, but I found the OVF on the X100 to be fairly useless because it didn't really work with manual focus . . and you couldn't really see what was in focus using AF. EVFs are nasty, but functionally they're really good, especially with focus peaking.I havent chosen the x pro 1 over the Nex yet but I just dont get along so great with the EVF. So I am evaluating to maybe replace the Nex with the X Pro 1 - but I first have to try one and see how I get along with the AF and the handling of the camera.
Reason would be OVF and fast primes.
HI LeeJono
Why would you need MF on the X100? I found AF fairly reliable and if did the AFL button in MF mode thing you could switch to EVF and magnify the view.
Lee
They changed it so you can have 2 boxes I believe - and the box changes color once focus has been achieved. Shouldnt that work pretty fine?Well, I can't speak for the X Pro1, but I found the OVF on the X100 to be fairly useless because it didn't really work with manual focus . . and you couldn't really see what was in focus using AF. EVFs are nasty, but functionally they're really good, especially with focus peaking.
Well, I haven't tried that, so I don't know, but the problem was not whether SOMETHING was in focus, it was WHAT was in focus that was the difficulty.They changed it so you can have 2 boxes I believe - and the box changes color once focus has been achieved. Shouldnt that work pretty fine?
Jono, There is only one "perfect camera*" :ROTFL:Now I'll stop whittering on about it - maybe I'm slightly resentful because I thought that the hybrid viewfinder was the answer to the meaning of life, and I was disappointed to find that (for me at least) it really wasn't.
I checked it out, there are now 3 boxes, one for close, one for medium, one for long distance.Well, I haven't tried that, so I don't know, but the problem was not whether SOMETHING was in focus, it was WHAT was in focus that was the difficulty.
But I must stop grouching on about this - I just feel that Fuji have put style and chic above operability - personally I'm all for style and chic, but not at the expense of function.
Now I'll stop whittering on about it - maybe I'm slightly resentful because I thought that the hybrid viewfinder was the answer to the meaning of life, and I was disappointed to find that (for me at least) it really wasn't.
Exactly Vivek . . . . still, I've reconsidered my position on the NEX7 . . . Fortunately prices have dropped, so I managed to replace the one I sold 6 weeks ago for almost what I sold the old one for (it actually cost me £99). The lenses were still here - it's interesting re-discovering it.Jono, There is only one "perfect camera*" :ROTFL:
[* The Leica M9, until the M10 shows up ]
Hi LeeJono
Why would you need MF on the X100? I found AF fairly reliable and if did the AFL button in MF mode thing you could switch to EVF and magnify the view.
Lee
How is the X1-Pro AF in lower light? I've seen blog reports from owners that it is not so hot in lower light, being slow and unreliable. Perhaps the comparison to focusing the M camera should take that into account since that is where a rangefinder shines?Hi Lee
I totally agree! I can never understand the fuss about fitting MF lenses to an AF camera then moaning about the various problems encountered in doing so!
The X100 and X1Pro are photographers cameras with quirks, there can be no denying that. However both cameras are a real joy to master and whilst my Sony DSLR's are great and easy to use for the subject material that I use them for, the little X cameras really give me the most real satisfaction in use, even if I do swear at them from time to time!
In all honesty though it is always something that I have done wrong rather than the camera! The IQ from both of the X's is excellent with the X1P being quite exceptional, especially with the 35/1.4 lens fitted. The 60 macro is also a superb lens, I can't speak for the 18mm lens as I don't have that one yet.
Some Leica M users are now openly comparing the 35/1.4 evenly with the Leica 50mmm Cron and Lux lenses. As one Leica user put it "the little Fuji can AF faster than I can manually focus my M9 after years of using M cameras."
So, in summary even though I am an avid Sony Alpha user of both the A900 and A77, I didn't jump for the Nex7, preferring instead the X1Pro IQ and the sheer personal satisfaction of using it. The future road map of X1Pro lenses was also a material input for my decision, as the Sony Nex lenses leave a lot to be desired with no future timed roadmap.
One of the great ironies of the X Pro 1 is that Fuji seems to have gone to great lengths to develop a novel sensor that offers great high ISO performance and moire resistance, engineer three (or two and a half at least) extraordinarily fast optics, pioneer a combined OVF and EVF and then put them in a body whose AF has been reported to be blind as a bat in low light.How is the X1-Pro AF in lower light? I've seen blog reports from owners that it is not so hot in lower light, being slow and unreliable. Perhaps the comparison to focusing the M camera should take that into account since that is where a rangefinder shines?