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Ergonomics are very personal and personally I never liked the feel of most Nikon cameras (their DSLR line), allthough from a performance point of view I would have liked to own one it's always been the ergonomics that stopped me.Similar body size to the Sony a7 camera but with better ergonomics and a better grip.
I agree that ergonomics are personal, but Sony has some ergonomics fails that are quite clear (my list compiled from months of a7rIII use) :Interesting and good for competition
However this one made me smile:
Ergonomics are very personal and personally I never liked the feel of most Nikon cameras (their DSLR line), although from a performance point of view I would have liked to own one it's always been the ergonomics that stopped me.
That's riduculous !Will probably take 4 to 6 years before Nikon mirrorless will become a real competition, especially when thinking about the slow innovation and product cycles of Nikon throughout the last years.
Wow, one negative comment on how a Nikon DSLR feels in my hands resulted in this watershed of negativity on another brand. Seems I hit a nerve there, sorry for thatI agree that ergonomics are personal, but Sony has some ergonomics fails that are quite clear (my list compiled from months of a7rIII use) :
- Convoluted menus; quite improved with the latest cameras (A7rIII vs A7RII) but still illogical and hard to use.
- Slow operation; there is a delay when e.g., changing aperture, slow to wake up from sleep.
- Missing top LCD
- 'Incognito' buttons, labeled C1, C2, C3; once you have used a different camera for a while, no way to remember what was assigned to each of them.
- ISO and drive mode too easy to accidentally change as the camera presses against the body
- Complicated dual card management.
- Fake low ISOs (should not be used) not clearly marked.
- Slow card format
Sony A7 has left the door wide open for a full frame competitor as it continues to have IMO following design failures:
- 'Obfuscated' autofocus (apparently AF-C possible only at working aperture, AF-S combination of PDAF and CDAF)
- No AASD (auto aperture stop down) in MF mode.
- No lossless compressed RAW files
- No focus bracketing, no multiple exposures
- Impossible update mechanism/software on Mac OS X
However, a system's quality depends a lot on the availability of high-quality lenses, and Sony has them. It will take a while to catch up, and it may also lead to a neglect of lens development for DSLRs :-(.
Actually, I'd seen another link, sorry! ... The body illustration imagined in the link above looks more like a Nikon F3 to me. Of course, it's just a rumor as yet. Like the rumored "Leica CM" that was the subject of so much discussion recently, it remains a fantasy until Nikon actually issues an official press release.WRT body shape due to Nikon rumours - I am pretty sure that the body shown is a pure photoshop exercise - hence the similarity to Leica RF (or what else) --- should be far different from the real product - hopefully as another retro style camera is the last I really want and need!
But this presupposes that mirrorless has some big advantages over OVF .Nikon is most certainly behind the curve with mirrorless in a pro form, but nonetheless, it will be exciting to try this camera as long as it's built in Japan. I've learned to not be a beta tester no matter how much gas I get.
Godfrey I know - there are both picture variants of the upcoming Nikon mirrorless around - SLR-like (F3/FM) which I would prefer to the second variant - a kind of RF style body like Leica M or similar. I do hope that they include great grip and buttons - as we are used to by Nikon for long time. Actually I find the X-H1 body design very good and very handy - for me ....Actually, I'd seen another link, sorry! ... The body illustration imagined in the link above looks more like a Nikon F3 to me. Of course, it's just a rumor as yet. Like the rumored "Leica CM" that was the subject of so much discussion recently, it remains a fantasy until Nikon actually issues an official press release.
I owned and used Nikon cameras from 1969 to 2001, and had another fling with them in 2015. They always worked well for me, but the body designs after they went to AF never really gelled for me. The FM/FE series and the F3 were my favorites. I had a Nikon S rangefinder to use for a short time way back in 1970 and it was a sweet camera too, sort of a nicer Contax in feel to me. If they do something that is akin to the FM/FE/F3 or even that S RF camera, it would be pleasing to my hands and traditional Nikon aesthetics.
But my previous comment still remains: I've got my lens kit and accessories already, I'm going to stick with it. I've put the Leica SL up for sale due to lack of use, the M-D is my baby and I'll get a CL body for the close-up/macro/long tele capabilities. That's enough.