Arca Swiss and Hasselblad XD lens compatibility

[Alkibiades]

Did anybody know a lens compatibility for Arca Swiss and Hasselblad XD?
there is a table with Fuji, Sony ect but I cant find it for hasselbld XD.
thanks for help in advice.

 

[FloatingLens]

I am not aware of the ability to adapt XCD glass to any other system… yet.

 

[Alkibiades]

I mean Hasselblad body used on Arca universalis-or M-2 with Rodenstock-Schneider lenses.
Espacialy the compatibility with wide lenses as Apo digitar 43 xl and digaron -W 50 mm

 

[cuida1991]

I remember Arca Swiss state that with M-two/M-monolithe, one can use as wide as hr32 (no tilt) with a Sony E camera (flange distance=18mm). Hassy X mount has a slightly longer flange distance of 18.3mm, so I assume you can use 43xl with x2d.
But, eager to the test result from people.
---Da

 

[vjbelle]

The focal flange distance is almost identical to the Sony E. Anything that the Sony can use should be usable on the XD. I am tempted to get the Rody 40mm for use with my Sony. I would be most interested to use it shifted in Portrait 18mm LR for a wider FOV. If it couldn't do that then I wouldn't be interested.

Victor B.

 

[vjbelle]

This may be helpful. It looks like the rear element of the 40mm is too large for the opening of the Sony so it can't be used. It can be used on the GFX but for sure the rear lens portion is inside of the flange. No movements or maybe a few mm just like the 60mm and Actus I currently have. With that combination I have 7mm of movement in one direction only. If I could get that with the GFX then I would consider the Rody 40mm. 7mm of rise is almost enough for me and for horizontal I would pan.

Victor B.

 

[TimoK]

I don't know, I guess.

First: I guess W 50mm will work. I guess so because it's marked as limited compatibility with Actus.
See here: https://www.captureintegration.com/cambo-actus-lens-compatibility-table/

Second: the 43xl is hard to guess. It's FFD is ~49mm (so a retrofocal lens).
If You subtract 18,3 mm xcd body flange and then 21,9 mm (what Schneider call h2 in this table and diagram),
You have only 9mm or a little less left for the rear standard and the camera mount.
Not enough I guess.
The only possible solution I can imagine is if the rear of the lens could go in the Universalis' camera mount. How wide is it?
The diameter of the rear lens of 43xl is 52 mm.

 

[vjbelle]

The chart that I posted has the Hasselblad XD listed. All of the wides will work but from 40mm and wider with no movements. This is the same as the 100s. There is some room for movements with the 100s and I'm sure also for the XD but it depends on what the cavity obstructions are. On the 100s the wiggle room becomes narrower the further inward the rear lens element extends. It's one thing to hit the flange itself and another to hit other internal black painted parts. I would be very careful with movements. The XD does have the capabilities of full movements with the 50mm. That is the advantage of an extra 9mm of forward sensor placement from the flange over the 100s.

Victor B.

 

[Vilpo]

Hasselblad XCD mount inside diameter is 61mm. Rotafoot HBD-X adapter attachment will probably cut few more millimetres in case the lens rear element has to slide inside Rotafoot. Not much room for movements if the lens rear element diameter exceeds 50mm.

 

[TimoK]

If You look at the table (page18digitare_d.pdf) you'll see the the diameter of the 43xl is 52 mm.

 

[Vilpo]

Yes, so maybe 3mm or 4mm left to shift inside Rotafoot adapter, in case focusing to infinity requires that.

Hopefully there will be 907X 100C

 

[vjbelle]

Yes..... a 907X 100C would be very exciting...... especially if it's priced below 10K.

VIctor B.

 

[rdeloe]

I don't know, I guess.

First: I guess W 50mm will work. I guess so because it's marked as limited compatibility with Actus.
See here: https://www.captureintegration.com/cambo-actus-lens-compatibility-table/

Second: the 43xl is hard to guess. It's FFD is ~49mm (so a retrofocal lens).
If You subtract 18,3 mm xcd body flange and then 21,9 mm (what Schneider call h2 in this table and diagram),
You have only 9mm or a little less left for the rear standard and the camera mount.
Not enough I guess.
The only possible solution I can imagine is if the rear of the lens could go in the Universalis' camera mount. How wide is it?
The diameter of the rear lens of 43xl is 52 mm.

The diameter of the Rotafoot inside is 60mm for a GFX mount, but you actually lose a bit of space at top, bottom, left and right because of screws whose heads project inside that 60mm circle. It's closer to 58mm of working space. I expect it's a different size for other systems (Arca Swiss should be able to tell you exactly).

 

[Alkibiades]

Rotafoot is a bad solution when wide angle should be used.
I can use even Digaron-S HR 35 mm with Sony E with full movements, without Rotafoot, with standart arca adapter.
With Fuji GFX schneider 47 digitar is the shortest lens that can be used, with full movements.
My question is where to get a lenslist for Hasselblad without the silly Rotafoot. I am interested in the classic arca adaptation only.

 

[vjbelle]

I don't have my M-Two yet (arrives tomorrow) but when I was doing my research I came to the conclusion that the Rotafoot would add some space between the standards that could prevent reaching infinity on some lenses. But there is a difference between not reaching infinity and having the rear lens element inside the cavity of the camera (regardless the adapter). For sure that would prevent movement. You can back into this by just setting up the camera and taking measurements.

I have never seen a publication for the standard lens adapters and lens compatibility.

Victor B.

 

[Vilpo]

Rotafoot is a bad solution when wide angle should be used.
I can use even Digaron-S HR 35 mm with Sony E with full movements, without Rotafoot, with standart arca adapter.
With Fuji GFX schneider 47 digitar is the shortest lens that can be used, with full movements.
My question is where to get a lenslist for Hasselblad without the silly Rotafoot. I am interested in the classic arca adaptation only.

Maybe from Arca Swiss?