docholliday
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I've been using PS since 1994 and both C1 and LR since late 2006/2007. Phocus isn't bad at all and neither is C1. I use both, as well as LR. Out of the 3, LR is the chunkiest, slowest to run (performance), and won't handle high-end hardware for crap. Despite having 32 cores & 256GB of RAM in box and 64 cores & 512GB in another, it only wants to use 8 cores and is still chunky. Despite having all NVME drives and large SAS arrays cached with 64GB on-controller, line-rate caches, LR reads slow. And even with Quadro P5000s in the box, LR can't redraw without glitching or corrupting tiles.
Phocus and C1 on the other hand, take full advantage of the hardware and run smooth as butter. Photoshop has absolutely no lag or glitching. Adobe has barely advanced LR much in the code, just adding features. On the same computer, PS can open a 12GB file in < 2s, but LR can't render changes on a 24mp file without jerking. None of the UI is unusual for any of the programs, if one thinks about who a wet darkroom workflow and tools work and apply it to the process. LR has millisecond jerks and lag with 100mp files whereas C1 and Phocus handles the updates smoothly. The Heal brush is a laggy mess, but so is C1s equivalent. There's no substitute for PS when it comes to fine editing of the image.
Tethering in Phocus and C1 is 1000% more functional and doesn't experience the dropouts in the middle of a shoot like LR does requiring a full restart of LR. Actually, the most effective way to tether in LR is to not use LR for tethering, but rather the OEMs tether utility, a third-party tether, or FTP from camera to a watched folder and have LR pick up files from there.
Printing in anything but PS sucks, with weird color shifts and other oddities that pop up at the worst times. So I quit doing that all together. I'll just export a PSD (or TIFF) and print from PS where it does exactly as it should and actually reads complex color profiles correctly.
While LRs real shining star is the UI-flow, there are two things that C1 does do better: the ability to build custom panels and work with 4 monitors. LR just doesn't even work right with 2 monitors as it'll start to lag like crazy when the secondary preview is enabled.
Yet, each tool has it's purpose. If I'm doing quick, non-critical editing, I'll use LR with a MIDI controller for speed. For tethered, it's Phocus or C1, depending on which camera is being used. For "real" touchup, final edits, or (especially) printing, it's PS.
Phocus and C1 on the other hand, take full advantage of the hardware and run smooth as butter. Photoshop has absolutely no lag or glitching. Adobe has barely advanced LR much in the code, just adding features. On the same computer, PS can open a 12GB file in < 2s, but LR can't render changes on a 24mp file without jerking. None of the UI is unusual for any of the programs, if one thinks about who a wet darkroom workflow and tools work and apply it to the process. LR has millisecond jerks and lag with 100mp files whereas C1 and Phocus handles the updates smoothly. The Heal brush is a laggy mess, but so is C1s equivalent. There's no substitute for PS when it comes to fine editing of the image.
Tethering in Phocus and C1 is 1000% more functional and doesn't experience the dropouts in the middle of a shoot like LR does requiring a full restart of LR. Actually, the most effective way to tether in LR is to not use LR for tethering, but rather the OEMs tether utility, a third-party tether, or FTP from camera to a watched folder and have LR pick up files from there.
Printing in anything but PS sucks, with weird color shifts and other oddities that pop up at the worst times. So I quit doing that all together. I'll just export a PSD (or TIFF) and print from PS where it does exactly as it should and actually reads complex color profiles correctly.
While LRs real shining star is the UI-flow, there are two things that C1 does do better: the ability to build custom panels and work with 4 monitors. LR just doesn't even work right with 2 monitors as it'll start to lag like crazy when the secondary preview is enabled.
Yet, each tool has it's purpose. If I'm doing quick, non-critical editing, I'll use LR with a MIDI controller for speed. For tethered, it's Phocus or C1, depending on which camera is being used. For "real" touchup, final edits, or (especially) printing, it's PS.