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whats with the Dante stuff?

Shashin

Well-known member
You die only once, you live every day...

Personally, I find that high-quality gear not only lasts longer, it gets used more. I find getting a camera I really want is much more cost effective than buying gear that I might simply be able to afford.
 

Godfrey

Well-known member
Nothing wrong with that! I guess you have some time to save up for it!
I realize you were being funny, but that's not how I work these things. :)

I didn't place an order for the 907x SE until I had the money allocated and set aside. I've added to the order a couple of times, each time adding the funds required for the addition to the original allocation. If the product ultimately fails to ship for some reason, I'll have that money released back into my regular savings plus the interest it garnered through the waiting period.

It's kinda like what I do with Kickstarter ... I never put money on a project with the notion that it is anything other than a high-risk bet in a casino. That way I'm never disappointed when things go sour, and I celebrate all the ones that succeed. :D

G
 

jotloob

Subscriber Member
Erik so true! :ROTFL:

From my own experience I always needed more cash for the Hassy gear. Starting at age nineteen I realized I wanted the 500C and in just a few years, it became my tool of trade after waiting and saving, and waiting and saving and ...

Now in 2020, still waiting and saving for more Hassy gear!

Best to you!
Darr
That sounds so much familiar to me . :thumbs:
 

sog1927

Member
That sounds so much familiar to me . :thumbs:
Me too. Wanted a Hasselblad since I was a teenager. Finally bought a 500 C/M when I was 34 (I was looking to upgrade my Nikon gear with an F4 body at a camera store in Santa Fe but was ensnared by a used 500 C/M with a 50mm Distagon CF for the exact same price). It's been 3 decades since. Still have the C/M. Still have the Distagon. And let's just say the collection has grown a bit since then.

I can quit anytime I want to! Honest!
 

jotloob

Subscriber Member
Me too. Wanted a Hasselblad since I was a teenager. Finally bought a 500 C/M when I was 34 (I was looking to upgrade my Nikon gear with an F4 body at a camera store in Santa Fe but was ensnared by a used 500 C/M with a 50mm Distagon CF for the exact same price). It's been 3 decades since. Still have the C/M. Still have the Distagon. And let's just say the collection has grown a bit since then.

I can quit anytime I want to! Honest!
I can not . :banghead:

But the advantage of that is , that I have a wonderfull HB colletion starting with the HB 1600 , 1000F and also the very first SWC (Super Wide and Supreme Wide models) All in top condition and in working order .
 

ErikKaffehr

Active member
Erik so true! :ROTFL:

From my own experience I always needed more cash for the Hassy gear. Starting at age nineteen I realized I wanted the 500C and in just a few years, it became my tool of trade after waiting and saving, and waiting and saving and ...

Now in 2020, still waiting and saving for more Hassy gear!

Best to you!
Darr
Hi Darr,

I hope Hassy stays around. For me, it is a bit of having things matching my needs while being able to afford them.

I happen to have a Hasselblad Flexbody and I would like to have a digital back with excellent live view to match. I have a Hasselblad Flexbody that I would love, but I have found that it is not really usable in the field with my P45+ back.

A CMOS sensor with live view and peaking may work well, but I may not be happy with the 33x44 mm format. Still, I may go with it, like next year. But, I would really like Hassy to have an electronic viewfinder option.

Essentially, I would very much like MFD vendors to focus on things that actually work in real world shooting.

At this stage, the far most usable gear I happen to have is my Sony A7rII:

  • It works with all lenses I have from Sigma 10/3.5 mm fisheye to my 100-40074-5.6 zoom.
  • It works with my Canon 24/3.5 TSE LII lens
  • It works with my 28-85/3.3-4 Contax zoom with 10 degree tilt
So, it covers a lot of my needs.

Would an MFD system yield similar options at a reasonable price, I would be quite interested.


Best regards
Erik
 

scho

Well-known member
me too. Wanted a hasselblad since i was a teenager. Finally bought a 500 c/m when i was 34 (i was looking to upgrade my nikon gear with an f4 body at a camera store in santa fe but was ensnared by a used 500 c/m with a 50mm distagon cf for the exact same price). It's been 3 decades since. Still have the c/m. Still have the distagon. And let's just say the collection has grown a bit since then.

I can quit anytime i want to! Honest!
:loco:Surely, you realize that there is no escape.:facesmack:
 

darr

Well-known member
Hi Darr,

I hope Hassy stays around. For me, it is a bit of having things matching my needs while being able to afford them.

I happen to have a Hasselblad Flexbody and I would like to have a digital back with excellent live view to match. I have a Hasselblad Flexbody that I would love, but I have found that it is not really usable in the field with my P45+ back.

A CMOS sensor with live view and peaking may work well, but I may not be happy with the 33x44 mm format. Still, I may go with it, like next year. But, I would really like Hassy to have an electronic viewfinder option.

Essentially, I would very much like MFD vendors to focus on things that actually work in real world shooting.

At this stage, the far most usable gear I happen to have is my Sony A7rII:

  • It works with all lenses I have from Sigma 10/3.5 mm fisheye to my 100-40074-5.6 zoom.
  • It works with my Canon 24/3.5 TSE LII lens
  • It works with my 28-85/3.3-4 Contax zoom with 10 degree tilt
So, it covers a lot of my needs.

Would an MFD system yield similar options at a reasonable price, I would be quite interested.


Best regards
Erik
Hey Erik,

I shoot my Flexbody with the CFV-50c, although I only use it in the studio for copying mostly. It works very well with the CMOS sensor and Live View for focus. The biggest problem I have with my Hasselblads and the digital back is the 44x33 crop factor. Unless you intend on stitching, there really is no other option for a wide perspective. I recently did a three stitch vertical pano with my 501CM and PS meshed the images well enough, but I prefer not to depend on stitching in the landscape, so when I shoot wide Hasselblad, I shoot film. With the 40mm jumping to ~ 55mm, the SWC would not even interest me, so I go to my ALPA and 28 Helvetar when needed. But I do enjoy my Hasselblads for the convenience of the system tools. I have always preferred technical view cameras and the Flexbody comes close. Have you tried using the ground glass with the Flexbody for focusing with your P45+?

My most versatile camera by far is the Linhof 3000, but it comes at the price of added weight. There is nothing the Linhof cannot do with the right tools.

If your Sony gets your shooting needs done, it is a great system!

I do not get into gear loyalty too much, I just appreciate tools that do not get in the way, but positively add to the shooting experience. As far as the manufacturers go, I do my best to look at images and hear from the photographers shooting the gear that made the images. If I was in the market for a new digital back, I would definitely be paying attention to what the users/owners are saying. When a photographer spends in upwards of 35k for a digital back and over a year later they are still without some of the technology to use the back as needed, we really need to keep our funds close at hand. I am fortunate that I do not need more than a 50 mpx back, and hoping when it comes time for me to upgrade, the full frame option will be affordable and have the technology I need.

Best to you,
Darr
 

ErikKaffehr

Active member
Hey Erik,

I shoot my Flexbody with the CFV-50c, although I only use it in the studio for copying mostly. It works very well with the CMOS sensor and Live View for focus. The biggest problem I have with my Hasselblads and the digital back is the 44x33 crop factor. Unless you intend on stitching, there really is no other option for a wide perspective. I recently did a three stitch vertical pano with my 501CM and PS meshed the images well enough, but I prefer not to depend on stitching in the landscape, so when I shoot wide Hasselblad, I shoot film. With the 40mm jumping to ~ 55mm, the SWC would not even interest me, so I go to my ALPA and 28 Helvetar when needed. But I do enjoy my Hasselblads for the convenience of the system tools. I have always preferred technical view cameras and the Flexbody comes close. Have you tried using the ground glass with the Flexbody for focusing with your P45+?

My most versatile camera by far is the Linhof 3000, but it comes at the price of added weight. There is nothing the Linhof cannot do with the right tools.

If your Sony gets your shooting needs done, it is a great system!

I do not get into gear loyalty too much, I just appreciate tools that do not get in the way, but positively add to the shooting experience. As far as the manufacturers go, I do my best to look at images and hear from the photographers shooting the gear that made the images. If I was in the market for a new digital back, I would definitely be paying attention to what the users/owners are saying. When a photographer spends in upwards of 35k for a digital back and over a year later they are still without some of the technology to use the back as needed, we really need to keep our funds close at hand. I am fortunate that I do not need more than a 50 mpx back, and hoping when it comes time for me to upgrade, the full frame option will be affordable and have the technology I need.

Best to you,
Darr
Hey Darr,

I am mostly shooting in the field. So, one of the issues I have with the Flexbody is that the digital back needs to be removed to fit the ground glass adapter. I am bit nervous about handling around with the digital back. Also, I quite often shoot very close to the ground and that is quite uncomfortable.

One reason I like the Flexbody is that it is a beautiful example of engineering, but also that it has an ample amount of geared movements.

On the other hand, the A7rII with the HCam Master TS II is quite workable, although it has limited tilt, 10 degrees if I recall correctly, and also lacks gears. The obvious advantage of the A7rII is that I can use peaking to find the approximate tilt and composition. I still like to look trough the viewfinder for final focusing.

The HCam Master TS II also has +/- 15 mm shift, but that would need lenses with large image circle. So, for shifts I use my Canon 24/3.5 TSE LII and I have really found that it covers over 90% of my needs.

I can also use the Canon 16-35/4L with shift, it will allow a decent amount above 20 mm. But, it needs to be stopped down on another camera. So, I bought a couple of Contax/Yashica zooms that have manual aperture for using tilt.

Nothing of that is medium format, of course, but I don't think images care about the gear used to take them.

Focusing on the ground glass, I do that with the Hassy, but I really need some magnification, so I usually use a 3X monocular as a viewfinder magnifier.

In the CMOS era, I see live view and EVF as a natural solution to many problems.

Best regards
Erik
 

eisbaer

Member
Hi Darr

Would an MFD system yield similar options at a reasonable price, I would be quite interested.

Best regards
Erik
It will not and will never... If you never heard a copal shutter running for one second... if you never lost the best picture because of getting the wrong black reference, if you never vomitted as all full frame users got the picture and you even did not finish opening up your tripod..
then you also never looked at an architectural shot you took from an building designed from Zaha Hadid... you never shot a 3 Gigapixel Panorama in Venice, printed it on 44" by 444" inch and discover a murder in one window, never shot 400 images with to low DOF, to long shutter speed but then got the shot which made it good for all these...

I bought my Alpa STC for getting healed. And it worked better then any medicine, holiday or treatment... (great sex tops it, still :) *evil grin* )

I love my Canon 1Dx II and now the III but you'd have to pry my Alpa and my IQ4 150 from my cold, dead hands.
 
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