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XC40 official

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wattsy

Well-known member
jduncan said:
Frankly, can we stop pretending? This is starting to look like a subconscious defense mechanism. With this, if you want we can move to the rest of the argument, the one about the price and the cost of opportunity, or you can say "I want this period" and be done with it, instead of trying to gaslight us into a parallel universe.
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You've totally lost me. You made a comment that you are "mesmerized by the idea that in 2024 people are suggesting using a single focal length for all your landscapes and with no cropping". I simply responded that I personally don't find that idea so mesmerising and I actually like to work that way.

I won't be buying the XC40 as it is not something I can remotely afford so I don't need to pretend anything or gaslight anybody into a parallel universe.
 
drevil

drevil

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Staff member
$20,290 for the body alone. i am completely lost as to understand P1

Is there some electronics(software etc.) between the lens and back or just some contacts? Or just the body plus a trigger button?
 
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Paul Spinnler

Well-known member
drevil said:
$20,290 for the body alone. i am completely lost as to understand P1

Is there some electronics(software etc.) between the lens and back or just some contacts? Or just the body plus a trigger button?
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No it doesn’t make sense at all at that price. At 12k yes, but not 20k.

It is just a piece of aluminium in between a custom helical to connect to the digital back with a trigger button at the front of it and electrical contacts to transmit shutter speed, aperture and lens type.

Besides the absurd price, there are a few issues:

1) It is a totally custom HR40 meaning you won’t be able to use it on anything else than the IQ4/5, thereby breaking the hallmark design principle of tech cams and digital backs to be modular; your investment goes down the hill if you switch systems and don’t have an IQ4/5 or if P1 decides to exit in 5 years

2) They didn’t even put in the effort for that money to put the trigger button in the grip, the position it is at is still awkward - even the 9 series from Hasselblad has a trigger grip

3) There’s no EVF right now - a key element for the effective use of this system; when outside and in general its total *hit to focus this while holding it up to your head level when the sun is shining for
example

4) It’s not AF - so you need a top notch focusing aid implementation via EVF / firmware

They essentially said: let’s bring this out, on a planet of 8bn people there are a few hundred who buy this and let’s make it 10k profit per sale so it pays the running costs of the bespoke division.

They need to sell say 150 XC lenses of all types per year to make 1.5 which should cover nicely limited R&D etc. plus salaries.

There was a lack of commitment from P1 new investor to go full into hardware and now Hasselblad is eating their cake - the new adventure edition camera sold a 1000 units within hours, I read…

On top you can put together a smaller footprint setup with Tilt and/or Swing with the Alpa TC for half price and lastly why would you need to buy a grip with every lens?

They just bank on the few hundred people globally who don’t care and just buy it.

That's a fair luxury strategy. No one forces people to buy overspecc'd Bugatti's, but they still sell.
 
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Phase V

Member
If you take of the viewfinder from the XF ( why on earth does this thing have to weigh 528 grams?) put
on the LS viewer and the 35mm SK and you get almost the same, just cheaper:)
 
rdeloe

rdeloe

Well-known member
ThdeDude said:
Gibellini DCG66 https://www.instagram.com/reel/DAtAdbCIzQA/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

What you think? Presented like a piece of jewellery!

Digaron-W a bit an overkill considering that there is no tilt or shift, and "only" 44x33mm sensor. But I believe the mid-range of the Digaron-S has been discontinued.
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The black gloves and all the stroking were a bit weird. ;) But otherwise it looks nice. It's terrific to see people committed to creating new tools.
 
Steve Hendrix

Steve Hendrix

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Paul Spinnler

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Only discontinued HR-S lenses are the 60 HR and 35 HR; the first got superceded by the larger IC variant 50 HR and the 35 got superceded by the legendary 32 HR.
 
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